Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1343 - Penn Jillette
Uploaded: 2019-08-30T01:00:02.000Z
Description: Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1343 - Penn Jillette' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2019-08-30. Transcript available.

Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1343 - Penn Jillette' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2019-08-30. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1343 - Penn Jillette

here we go oh and we're live okay was that that quick and that easy that easy
yeah we didn't say
very much interesting before starting no we were just starting and then you
just said
shut the fuck up i said hold that thought please this uh this concept of things
getting better
and we were talking about war war being too because there's a world war ii
helmet that um
shane against the machine is the gentleman's name he's made me another uh
sculpture and he
started making sculptures out of uh these world war ii helmets with a lamp
underneath it and an
actual real world war ii painted as well and you were saying war is a terrible
idea yeah and it's
going away you think really yeah real really fast and you you mentioned pinker
yeah and that's you
know everything i will say is redundant to pinker i mean that uh better angels
of our nature is one
of i think the most subversive books of our time you know people are there's
such a um it's a
fetish to suffer it's a fetish to say how bad things are people are getting
really off on it
and when you start saying you know after you say one death by violence is too
many and we got to
clean up the environment and say all that stuff and it's all true but you can
also take a breath and
say things are getting better yeah i think we need to recognize that and the
the problem is there is
there is violence there is horrible things there are horrible things in the
world they still exist and now
they're magnified because of the fact that we have this ability to look at it
on your phone anytime
you want to look at it on your computer you know it's the same thing it's the
same thing i think
calories and information are identical you know for millions billion years um
the biggest problem
every living thing had was too few calories and then for uh what maybe 75 years
a very small percentage
of the animals in the world had this problem of too many calories and there's
nothing that prepares
anybody for that we now have more information in one issue of the new york
times than um a 17th century
peasant would have had in their entire life so we have this glut of information
that we're dealing
with about as well as we dealt with calories i talk about this quite often but
the way i describe it is diet
and that most people have a poor diet and then most people's diet is not
nutritious
right and if you have a poor diet that's not nutritious your body becomes
unhealthy well if
you have a poor mental diet yeah and i've discussed how many people do we talk
about this with like
three or four people we've been talking about this like taking in information
you should almost think
of it as a mental diet because if you take in bad information all the time
negative information
and i will speak for myself but i don't think i'm in any way alone i often
forget where i read stuff
oh yeah so i have to be really careful to not read too much garbage yeah or it
just pops up in my head
is oh that's real right you know so i try to go with uh news sources that i
think are pretty reliable
even if i disagree with them like i try to read the times because i know there's
a level to how much
they're going to lie we know we know where the parameters that they're lying
there you know yeah
we know where they do the spin and if you just just pop around the web at
random you can't tell
what what kind of information you're getting but i also want to add to this you
know it's it's exactly
the way i feel about drugs you know as much as i want to say this is not right
for me information
has to be out there and all information absolutely no gatekeepers you know i i
completely agree and
i think that we're coming very close to a time where technology allows us to
understand what's
true and what's not true we're not there yet but i think we're we're really
close to being able to
have some sort of an ability to read minds to to decipher information like
really clearly but the
problem with reading minds um if we could do it and the to ascertain truth is
uh truth is very
different from what someone believes yes you know if you had a perfect lie
detector it would not help
you with criminality at all because you know people that think they're innocent
may very well think
they're innocent even if they are not oh sure yeah that's a really good point
and you know another
really good point is memory is very fallible oh yeah see i uh you know i got a
lot of i got a lot
of shit for this and i talked about a little bit on on my podcast but um you
know i was in the room
with trump a lot you know i i did two tours i did two tours of duty tell me
about that what is that
like because i was supposed to do that show and i passed on it yeah i was like
i don't want to live
in new york for three months or whatever it was yeah it just seemed like uh it's
wise either way it
was a it was a uh prime time television show so it sold tickets and that is our
job right uh and
that's what we do and i went on with one idea in my head you know annie duke
you know the poker player
she had been on the year before and i said um why am i going on i mean i'm not
going to sell tickets
and that's that's just a done deal but why am i going on what's my real goal
and she said
go on and show that atheists can be kind that'll be your only goal for the
whole show
because they're going to jump on you for being atheist and they'll jump all
over you for that
and just show that you're the one that gets mad the least show the one that you're
the nicest guy
on there and you're the hardcore atheist and i went okay that's a good goal but
then you sit in the
room and i don't know how well you know the president of the united states i
don't want to
know him at all yeah um but you spend um uh about two or three hours every
other day sitting in a
room across the table like this with a table you can't put your hands on why
can't you put your hands
on because it might mar it it might put a handprint on it they literally tell
you don't put your
hands on the table and you have to sit up straight and the camera if you're
like the team captain
which by the way they hate it if you call them team captain they like to have
it you know some
sort of business jargon and you're in it you're in a set and that's the thing
that everybody else on
the show would say we're going into the boardroom now and i'd say no we're
going on to the boardroom
set so it wasn't a real boardroom no of course not none of it was in the soundstage
uh it was you
know it was in the trump towers but they've taken over a floor and mbc guts it
and puts up this shit
and then you get your camera that's your hero camera that's um over your
shoulder that's shooting
trump so you can't lean into the camera right and they want a little piece you
can't lean out of the
camera so then you've got about two hours where you sit up straight and you can't
move side to side
and you can't put your hands at the table and you listen to someone speak for
two hours that they're
going to try to edit out to get three minutes where he sounds okay okay what
does he have to say for
two hours he will talk he would talk i mean things obviously have changed but
he would talk about uh i was
reading this blog on the internet that said i didn't sell my property for
enough and i bought it for
three million dollars and i sold it for four million isn't that a profit isn't
that a profit what do you
think isn't that a profit yeah that would be a million dollars profit well they
said i sold it for
two less they too little okay who was this there's somebody on the internet
okay so you know he'd be
arguing in front of us with perhaps a 18 year old guy on the internet who
thought that donald trump
should have made more from a real estate deal and this is something he really
concentrates on
he seems to um still to this day yeah obsessed with what anybody says about him
anytime that's so odd
and i thought and i want to say this very clearly um i thought he was wonderful
at his job you know
if you had someone who was actually a business person um on that show it would
be the worst show in the
world because bill gates would make proper decisions right and there'd be no
surprises you want someone
capricious and crazy with no filter that's what you want right and that's what
we got so he makes
arbitrary decisions that you try you know the human brain tries desperately to
make those make sense
and that ends up being some kind of entertainment and um so i actually uh
actually uh donald trump
jr said to me you know of all the people we've had on the show you seem like
the only person who's ever
liked my father he said you actually seem to like him and i said you know i
have a fascination and a
respect and a um affection for people who are able to get out of their filters
and i said some people do
that with pure genius like bob dylan some people do it with bravery like lenny
bruce some people do it
with drugs you know neil young perhaps uh jimmy hendrix perhaps and most people
do it with a mixture of
stuff but i said um felonious monk said the genius is the one who is most like
himself and i said with
some sort of um mental problems coupled with um greed and a lack of compassion
your father has somehow
found a way to throw off the filters and i will listen to tiny tim talk on tape
for hours because
i like that little bit of asperger's and all that other stuff i'm i'm not
assuming i'm not qualified
to right yeah but i'm saying that's an oddity yeah it's awesome i can hear him
talk forever i can
listen to lenny bruce you know hal wilner has those hundreds hours of him just
ranting under his tape
i think i don't like people on drugs that much but boy i do and i listened to
uh uh lenny bruce talk
forever and uh donald trump had the dark side of that you know it's almost like
when i was hitchhiking
around the country and you know homeless and shit and you'd end up at a biker
place and you know some
clubhouse and some guys just holding court and ranting i've always been
interested in the people who
were out on the margins you know and what what donald jr um took as affection i
guess was a bit of
affection but it's also that if you have thrown off some filters i'll listen to
you talk and um so that
was that it was very very strange and then um i really did spend a lot of time
kind of sticking
up for donald trump saying yeah there's interesting stuff there and yeah he's
he's crazy and he's venal
and um he's empty uh you know really weird stuff that you've never seen before
you have never seen
someone who has never laughed sincerely and never made a joke never laugh
sincerely no he will he will
laugh in a bully way you look kind of fat joe really yeah he'll do that but he
won't laugh at
himself oh no and also but never a even a joke even he says funny things on
twitter did you see the
thing he did on twitter the other day where he put a picture of trump tower in
greenland and he said
i promise not to do this yeah yeah i mean i laughed that was funny just a giant
trump tower in the
middle of greenland i never saw it i mean i saw that but you never saw him in
person i never saw him in
i also never saw him show any enjoyment or understanding of music oh and those
two things
are two things that i connect with people very much on i do too but one of my
best friends doug
stanhope does not like music oh yeah yeah i know he's like i fucking hate music
and teller's father
really teller's father didn't like music i mean i don't know and aggressively
didn't like music
yeah i don't know what that is but i i do know that i don't i don't believe
that we see things the
same way like i don't think we taste things the same way which is why some
people enjoy certain
kinds of foods and some people hate those exact same foods some people the
music sounds different
to people in terms of like what what their emotional and psychological makeup
is and what it does to
them some people don't want to have none of it and that's stanhope when i lost
uh all that weight you
lost o