Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1386 - Matt Taibbi
Uploaded: 2019-11-16T20:00:00.000Z
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1386 - Matt Taibbi' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2019-11-16. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1386 - Matt Taibbi

so jamie pointed out this this uh congressman is that who it is
the jamie pointed this out that there's a congressman and he released a series
of tweets
and the first letter of all these tweets if you put them all together it says
epstein didn't kill himself or did not kill himself is that what it is yeah i
think it's
didn't he did uh yeah how do you do the apostrophe yeah you should have gone
with did not starting
here with that evidence of a link rep paul gosser what are the odds that this
guy did this
accidentally really small right that's kind of like one of those monkeys typing
shakespeare things
yeah i don't think it could uh it could work and the thing is he did it
backwards right so you didn't
see what the puzzle was until the last tweet because the last tweet is an e i
got a tweet from someone
about 35 minutes ago that i don't know if there's a bunch of people online
paying attention to it or
what but someone alerted me and a few other people what is he does he have an
image of that
fucking that crazy mask is that in his too okay he's a weirdo he's got the that's
all i was november
1st the v mask yes yeah what is that mask again for vendetta what was it
representative of something
it's the guy fox mask yes that's right that's right yeah so this guy is uh he's
he's thinking along
alternative lines of thought but that is really uh an interesting way of saying
it alphabetry that's
cool yeah just making a bunch of tweets don't ever address it just leave it
there walk away there yeah
lewis carroll was famous for that was he yeah that was one of um he did a lot
of sort of tricks with
words um do you read the book go to lesher bach no yeah there's there's a whole
whole bunch of
stuff in there about people who used um who put puzzles in text you know it's
kind of a thing that
people did i guess back more in the 18th century and before well this ebstein
case is probably the
most blatant example of a public murder of of a crucial witness i've ever seen
in my entire life
or anybody's ever seen and the the the minimal amount of outrage about this the
minimal amount of
cover it's fascinating i mean i what's amazing to me just as a you know
somebody works in the media is
that this was shaping up to be the biggest like news story in history yes and
the instant he you
know he died uh or was died or however you want to call it um it the story just
fell off the face of
the earth yeah it's like nobody's doing anything about it and i i don't 100
understand that i mean i i
get it why why that's happening but it's uh it's just amazing well when the
woman from abc what was her
name amy rose uh-huh that lady the the one who robot robot who had the
frustrated moment that she
called it a frustrating private moment right when she was talking about having
the scoop and having
that story and them squashing it right like this this is all stuff that
everybody used to think was
conspiracy every everybody's think this was stoner talk this was you know you
know what i mean like
this is stuff where people just delusional they believe all kinds of wacky
conspiracies sure but
the reality is much less complicated well this is not possible this is one of
those things that's so
obvious it's so in everyone's face well there's a couple of things going on
because there there are many
different ways and this can play out i mean you could have a news director who
just sort of instinctively
decides well we can't do that story because i might want to have will and kate
on later or i might want
to have this politician on later and it's it's not like anybody tells them
necessarily that we can't
do this but it's a size too hot you if you grow up in this system and you've
been in the the business
for a long time you just you have all these things that are drilled into you at
almost like the cellular
level about what you can and cannot get into and um i think but there were some
explicit things that
happened with epstein too i mean they there were a lot of news agencies that
killed stories about him
that you know and we're hearing about some of them vanity fair this thing you
know so
yeah it's it's it's it's bad it's terrible yeah yeah when when i found out that
clinton flew no less
than 26 times on a plane with epstein i was like dude i haven't flown that many
times with my mom
how long did he know epstein yeah i i don't know but i mean to have that many
flights to have the secret
service uh people involved i mean that's incredibly bold what was he doing with
just girls was is is
is clinton that much of a hound that he would go that deep into the well that
many times 26 times
well that's the thing about the epstein story that makes no sense to me like i
i thought that the
percentage of people who were out and out like perverts who had a serious
problem like with
pedophilia or whatever it was was pretty small you know yeah but you're but
they had a lot of people
coming in and out of this compound and and it just seems like it's a um it's a
very strange story what
were they really up to i have i have no idea and was was it all a blackmail
scheme it's just it's just
so strange well it seems like the pedophilia aspect of it might be directly
connected to epstein
himself like he might be the one that has a problem with girls that are like 16
and he likes them very
or he did like them but with the other guys it could just be girls it could be
yeah i mean that's why
it's so crazy like how could it be that these but maybe it's not but they must
but they knew who he
was yeah but they probably didn't know the extent of it probably not yeah up
until a point up until he
was arrested right and then they're like oh well then that's when everybody
backed off of him right
yes yeah i mean i'm not a hundred percent yeah i haven't covered this story in
depth i've only i only
really got into it a little bit we need you we need you in this one you're the
guy this is a tough one
i mean you know because it mixes a lot of things that are are very tough to
cover yes you know the
intelligence world is very tough to cover um you know it's it's hard to get
stories out of there that
they don't want you to have yeah and this is this is like the mother of all
stories and you know in
terms of that and they're just little little breadcrumbs here and there that
whole thing about acosta
you know the vanity um vanity fair quote from him is that when he said that
when he looked at the case
he didn't do it because i was told he belonged to intelligence yes what does
that mean you know who's
intelligence you know what i mean like what agency well what for you know and
then you you pair that with
things like you know i have friends on wall street who tell me i've never heard
a single instance of
this guy actually having a trade right you know so what was his hedge fund
doing you know i mean if
you think about it hedge funds a perfect way to do blackmail you know because
you can just have
people putting money in and out all the time and it would look like investment
yeah so very strange
story well eric weinstein had a conversation with him you know eric weinstein
with peter teal capital
right yeah he's like this guy doesn't know what the he's talking about oh yeah
he's like he's
financially yeah he's like he's an actor right this is nonsense right right
that was his initial
almost instantaneous response yeah yeah and and and what real clients did he
ever have what did he
what did he trade in what what has he got a billion dollars or whatever he had
yeah no it's half a
billion under management yeah that's ridiculous why the guy who owns victoria
secrets give him a 70
million dollar home right in new york city like what i mean these are all
things that would have
been really interesting to get into you know if he didn't if he didn't uh try
to kill himself the
suicide didn't happen to him like in the wire poor fella yeah yeah just so
unfortunate yeah so
unfortunate the cameras died and so unfortunately sustained an injury that's uh
that you usually only
get through strangulation right yeah he murders you he fell on the ground and
accidentally broke his
hyoid bone yeah happens all the time whatever no big deal i mean it's so
bizarre i i can't stand
conspiracy theories i'm one of these people who who doesn't like reading but i
can't i can't make
the story work in a way that isn't you know conspiratorial well that's the
thing it's like
it gets to a point where you're like okay even michael schirmer who runs skeptic
magazine he's like
wait a minute the cameras were not working yeah i mean it's okay this seems
like a conspiracy
fucking when michael schirmer says he that guy doesn't believe in anything
right i mean he is
fucking he's down the line on virtually every single thing that's ever happened
he doesn't believe in
any conspiracies well well how do you what's the innocent explanation for any
of this none it doesn't
make any sense you can't you can't spin it in any way to make it not a crazy
conspiracy especially when
the the brother hires a doctor to do an autopsy oh yeah just says like this guy
was murdered right
yeah michael baden the famous guy from the hbo autopsy show right yep
absolutely oh craziness
complete craziness and you know it's an example of of um you know the fc starts
interesting because it's
because it's about villains on both sides of the aisle right this is a classic
something i've written about
before is that the press does not like to do stories where the problem is
bipartisan yeah right so when
you have an institutional problem when democrats and republicans both share
responsibility for it
when you know or or if it's an institution that kind of exists in perpetuity no
matter what the
administration is we don't really like to do those stories really if fox likes
to do stories about
democrats msnbc likes to do stories about republicans but the thing that's kind
of you know all over the
place they don't like to do that story epstein is you know he's friends with
trump and and with clinton i
mean yeah looks like he has more friends on the clinton side but still and i
think that's this is one
of the reasons why this story doesn't have a lot of traction in the media
because neither side really
likes the idea of going too deeply on it feels like to me well it's but the the
blatant aspect of it
the only i mean the closest that we have to that is the absolute murder the jamal
khashoggi murder that's
the closest thing we have to or absolute murder right this one but but it's
also so insanely blatant but
now you have foreign actors that are involved in it and they all disperse and
then this left with this
confusion of to who's responsible for it well saudi arabia that's another
example where you can't really say
it's you know one side of the both parties have been incredibly complicit in
their cooperation with
the saudi regime and in you know the massacres that are going on in yemen
um it's a classic example of what noam chomsky used to talk about with worthy
and unworthy victims
right like if the if the soviet communists did it they were that was bad but if
death squads in el
salvador killed a priest or a catholic priest you know then that that was
something we didn't write
about because they were our client state yemen is a story we don't write about
syria is a story we do
write about but they're really equivalent stories and um you know but you're
absolutely right the khashoggi
thing i don't think either party and or either side's media really wants to get
into that all that deeply
how much is media shifting now like you've you've obviously been a journalist
for a long time like
how how much are things changing in the light of the internet well a lot and
this is why i mean i
have a new book out now that's really about this right the what why the
business has changed what's
it called hate inc yeah it's out it's out now and uh it's it's really about how
the press the business
model of the press has changed i mean it's something that you tal