Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1391- Tulsi Gabbard & Jocko Willink
Uploaded: 2019-11-26T20:00:03.000Z
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1391- Tulsi Gabbard & Jocko Willink' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2019-11-26. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1391- Tulsi Gabbard & Jocko Willink

all right here we go how did this get started how did we decide to do this i
was trying to think
about that because it's something something you and i started interacting on it
was somebody on
twitter somebody i don't know exactly how it started but i saw you replied to a
tweet from
somebody saying hey great idea why don't why doesn't jocko and tulsi go on the
rogan show
and he's like yeah cool yeah you're like i'm in yep i said i'm in but jocko he'll
say that to
anything yeah you want to go to the moon i'm in i believe that roger but it
escalated quickly from
there because i didn't know how to get a hold of you yeah and then next thing i
know you're texting
me with jocko like yeah so are you serious are we doing this or what well it
just seemed like such
a good idea i agree it's like whoever it was salute yes to whoever you are
thank you figure that out
just seemed like a wise thing to get together because i'm both of your veterans
and both of
you i'm sure have things you agree on and disagree on but you're you're in a
really unique position
here you know and and since you've been on the podcast a lot of things have
happened big the big
one is when you rightly called out kamala harris on her her past and what she's
done and and then it
seemed like everybody's attacking you it's like that opened up the floodgates
and then there's all these
hit pieces on and and as me as a per an observer watching from the outside i
was like wow look at
the machine work look at the attack dogs go like look at this like it's very
transparent ah so if
you're paying attention if you're paying attention the thing is if you're on
the outside and you watch
it all happen then you go oh i see what's going on but if you just happen upon
one of those articles
yeah you go oh she's an assad supporter oh she's a terrible person oh she's a
this and a that and
it was amazing it was amazing to watch like i don't i've never met anybody like
like you that's
run for president like i knew you when people didn't know you that well and
then all of a sudden
people know you way more and now you're kind of a household name so to watch
this process and to
watch all the machinery sort of move in your direction it's very interesting
yeah what's it been like
it's um i mean that that literally is is our challenge here is is we are up
against the most
powerful overall political machine um when you when you look at this this um uh
machine that's revved
up their engines to try to you know uh define me as something that casts
suspicion or doubts or whatever
in people's minds um you know pushing information that isn't true or all of
these different things
and i think there's a few reasons for it um our challenge is um like yeah we we
are battling the
political establishment in washington um and it's because i'm telling the truth
it's because i'm challenging
the status quo that they represent and and that they've profited off for for a
very long time so
you know my campaign we don't take any contributions from packs or lobbyists uh
fueled completely by
contributions from individual people and um they are outspending us by many
many multiples uh where we
need help to challenge their narrative with the truth telling me hey this is
who i am this is why i'm
running for president this is the experience in the background that i bring to
this job we've got to
be able to bypass that mainstream corporate media and just go directly uh to
voters and what does the
experience of being attacked feel like um god i feel like i'm used to it so it's
i mean it's just like
it's um it's um it's it's nothing that i've i've ever really taken personally
uh because i i understand
the situation you know i understand that you know whatever the smears are
however radical they are
um you know it shows me that they feel threatened and uh they are concerned
about both the unifying message
that i'm bringing because we have democrats republicans libertarians independents
who are joining this
coalition that that is fueling our campaign um and and it's a campaign of by
and for the people
and and one that's that's actually speaking the truth that's calling for an end
to these regime change
wars calling for you know a de-escalation of tensions between the united states
and other nuclear
armed countries and end to this new cold war nuclear arms race actually hey let's
focus
our limited taxpayer dollars on actually serving the needs of our people that
that's really the
message that we're bringing and it scares the hell out of them what's
interesting is for me again as
an outsider it's it's a clear clear recognition that what they want versus what
they say they want
are two very different things exactly the democratic party's party's always
been like we want a woman
okay i got you a woman how about a woman that's a veteran check how about a
woman that's a congressman
how about that congresswoman veteran minority minority from hawaii all these
positives
they're trying to dig up dirt on you they don't have anything they should be
behind you they should
have wind in your sails but and the other thing they're saying is that you know
in order for democrat
to beat donald trump in 2020 you're going to have to be able to take trump
voters away from him you're
going to have to win over those independents who stayed home in 2016 or even
some of those democrats who
voted for trump because they feel like our party has left them behind guess
what check check check check
we're doing all those things and instead of saying hey this is really something
that maybe we should
get behind instead they're saying oh my gosh there's something very suspicious
and weird about her
because she's actually stealing voters from trump that's yeah that's the big
one right has there ever been
someone in your position that's got gotten caught in such a crossfire like to
be taking this much heat
from the party that you're you know trying to represent is it seems i don't
remember this happening
they thought harris had a real shot and she sunk harris's ship that's exactly
what happened i mean if
you look at that there's a direct correlation between where harris was standing
and where she's at now
and that debate it just you put holes in her boat which which was um you know i
was raising some very
important issues related to criminal justice reform uh you know ending the
federal marijuana prohibition
and essentially pointing to to leadership because we're all asking to to lead
this country and bring the
experience that each of us has that's very distinct and different and and her
whole campaign was based
on the premise of being a prosecutor for the people being the attorney general
here in california
and i you know i i okay you you've said you're proud of your record this is
what you have done
when you were in a position to make a positive change for the people instead
you chose to do otherwise
and i think that speaks louder louder than words when you had more bullets in
the chamber too because
there was other things you didn't even touch like you didn't really touch upon
her uh saying to single
mothers that she was going to prosecute them and lock them up if they didn't
get their kids in school
laughing as she did so yeah i mean that's i've seen her talk about that as if
it's a good idea yeah
that this was a good solution yeah to scare single moms into with a fear of
jail if their kid didn't go to
school yeah that that's that's the challenge of this this debate format that's
that's so frustrating is
you know you've got 60 to 75 seconds to get your point across to be able to
talk about hey here's my
position here's what i would do with you know north korea here's how i would
deal with you know immigration
and reform uh in 60 seconds or less jaco i don't even know how you stand
politically which hilarious
because you're one of the few guys that's just not defined politically online
because people think
of you as such a savage they leave all the politics out of it they just go i
don't know
what he's he just get up gets up at four o'clock in the morning leaves a puddle
of sweat
he's america he's team america that's what i'm saying like it seems like you
don't have this thing
with like left or right you don't have this right or left distinction yeah and
what's really
interesting if you look at the demographics of like the people i meet when i go
and speak
it's it's everyone it's everyone from every different spectrum and i can i'm
just talking
my political beliefs are like hey i believe in individual freedom well that
seems to me it's kind
of hard to argue against that right yeah i believe in individual freedom and
with that goes some level
of individual responsibility yep okay i don't think the government is a great
solution to a lot of our
problems you know so for me it's like smaller government probably a better
thing and i think
probably why you get this impression from me is i actually have a balanced i i
believe that the
solutions are somewhere balanced and in america right now that that doesn't
really get a lot of
traction because everything is broken down into such little tiny sound bites of
you're either pro
this or you're against it and there's no gray area and by the way if you
believe this you know if you
believe yes and i believe no i actually hate you and i'm going to attack you
and that's why when
when i started going back and forth with tulsi like i i you know i kind of get
a gist of what she
thinks and i'm like oh cool guess what i think she surfs she trains martial
arts she plays uh she
plays ukulele oh i can hang out with her even if our our political beliefs aren't
100 aligned which
my political beliefs aren't 100 aligned with anybody does that mean that i hate
her and i'm never going
to talk to her i'm going to call her out no actually it's like oh cool oh that's
an interesting
perspective because one thing that gets tied into all these things nowadays is
our ego right our ego we
we pin ourselves into a corner where it's like i believe this and now the last
thing we can do is
is say oh actually you know what i that's a good point joe you you know you
want i never thought of
it from that perspective before and also just thinking of what other people's
perspectives are
because you know you just talked about single moms well you got to take that
into perspective
because it might be easy for me to say because i've got kids but i got a wife
and and we can make
things happen but oh single moms over here working two three jobs you know you
always talk about me
getting up at 4 30 in the morning and i always say look there's single moms out
there that are getting
up at 3 30 in the morning to go work their first shift at the diner so they can
get to their second
shift at the grade school or wherever they're working so they can do their
third shift at some other
restaurant at night like okay that's going on i gotta understand that
perspective and we all have to
understand that perspective and the last thing when you talk about this 60
second answers which which is
insane and you know i've been interviewed on tv before a bunch as well and it's
actually crazy it's when
you compare it to a podcast it's completely crazy that you have to fit your
thoughts into one sentence
maybe two sentences and the 24-hour news cycle that we're on every news story
that comes out is the end
of the world right it's like the end of the world everything that happens is
hey trump did this or pelosi
did that this is the end of the world just like when if if hillary got elected
it's the end of the world
if trump gets elected it's the end of the world you know i had early on right
after trump got elected
somebody i was doing a reddit ama and as soon as i signed on for my reddit ama
up pops this question
and it's clearly the guy had spent a lot of time writing it and it was this
this sort of breakdown of the
russians and trump and all this negativity and and you know i basically took
his whole paragraph and
i answered it in