Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1408 - Ed Calderon
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1408 - Ed Calderon' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2020-01-08. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1408 - Ed Calderon

welcome back Ed good to see you again man thank you for having me back well I'm
happy you're back
but I'm not happy that there was a motivation to bring you back based on the
violence you know the
violence that is going on between the cartels and it was the Mormons and then
there was we
were just talking about this other person that got shot because they ran what
would you explain
that again they were ran a cartel roadblock yeah basically in Tamaulipas a lot
of the cartel
groups actually make they build their roadblocks in the on the state and local
roads and according
to what I've heard from some of the people that I know there this family ran
one of those roadblocks
they didn't know if it was cops or not and they apparently decided to run the
roadblock and they
the cartel guys shot them what should someone do they encounter a cartel roadblock
slow down I mean
if if if anything I would probably avoid traveling through those areas that's
the number one avoidance
usually you know and I've actually gone through some of those myself really
yeah and it's it's all
about they're all they're they're looking out for the for rivals moving through
their territory they're
looking for government personnel maybe spying on them and usually it and
usually they'll just shake
you down for some money and they'll let you go on your way unless you have a 4x4
truck that can use
for their you know their own purposes which is why they might take your truck
yeah specifically in
Tamaulipas 4x4 trucks are a commodity for them they use them for their ongoing
turf war oh right
especially someone else's they don't mind getting shot up yeah I mean most of
the trucks that you see a went that
are armed up armored or they have the rifles on top are usually stolen vehicles
all of them are stolen
vehicles and a lot of them are you know Americans crossing into Mexico some of
them are Americans
crossing into Mexico and just getting the truck stolen is that that's a real
common thing it's it's it's
it's starting to be pretty common I recently saw a case of an apparent abduction
in in Tamaulipas you see
the video and in the cartel guys come out of the car they grab the the the the
owner of a pickup truck they'd get him out of the car they take a cell phone
leave it on the sidewalk because
they're they're aware of all the SOS technology and they take them inside
inside of another car and they take the truck and
you thought you know you would think you know it's it's because he did
something or
he's he's involved in something they let him go a few blocks later and just
took the truck it was all about the truck Wow
yeah it's resources you know they're just acquiring resources for their for the
war basically nice of them to let him go nice of them to
let him go you know it's not always the case it's not always the case but it's
pretty yeah I think most people in
America are just now waking up to the chaos that's going on down there I think
that
the Mormon assassination was a real wake-up call but I think people are paying
much more attention now I mean
we've we talked about this when was the last time you were on it was like five
months yeah something about a lot of the
stuff we talked about those five months ago kind of that's how things
progressed we
actually did mention the Mormon communities down there which was kind of eerie
yeah
and that we talked about the possible designation of cartels of terrorist
terror
terror groups yeah you you had an interesting take on that so Trump was
saying that they were gonna designate them as terrorist groups and that they
were
gonna have military action against them yeah and then there was some sort of
negotiation with the president of Mexico what do you think went down there so I
mean this is just you know from what I see and from how things traditionally
happen down there Mexico's currently has a current currently a leftist
president down there he's very to the left so much to the left that he he
recently gave Eva Morales the deposed leftist president of Bolivia asylum in
the country and there's been a lot of you know pro-left political stuff going
on in
Mexico basically as soon as the designation threat by the US came down there
was some
sort of negotiation and a lot of things happened after after some US officials
went down there and talked to the government among them Eva Morales is out
he's he went to Cuba apparently and then went to Argentina so he's not gonna
stay in
Mexico hmm former head of public security under the Calderon administration
which is two administrations past the president Calderon is the one that
started the
drug war he was arrested for cartel involvement and basically we're seeing
money from the cartels I saw that yeah he was going through his immigration
process and
he was actually asking for full citizenship and they got him on lying through
the
authority the immigration authorities he said that he'd never received money
from
the cartels and apparently he did a lot of it right so all these things
happened
after after they walked back the threat of designating cartels as a terrorist
organization so there has been some action so they must have made some
negotiation where Trump had said listen we're gonna do this and he said hold up
let's let's talk yeah I mean a main thing is a more one of the things that this
current president Andres Manuel Lopez over ran on was creating a national
police force right like a National Guard is what he calls it which had already
kind of been done before but you know change the name change the uniform change
the
packaging and it's a new thing right he want he wanted the army out of the drug
war because the casualties were mounting on both sides and he said it wasn't a
military shouldn't be a military operation and he ran on a platform that was
called a brazos Nova lassos which means hugs not bullets right so basically
Jesus
Christ amnesty for the cartels was basically kind of the main theme of that so
he got into power first thing he did militarized police forces and create a
National Guard and dissolve and try to dissolve the federal police and most of
that National Guard force was designated to border patrol duties on the Mexican
side so
some of them went to the south of the border southern Mexican border and some
of them
went to the northern Mexican were basically to stem the whole illegal
immigration crisis with the caravans that's what kind of happened
and it was a kind of a collaboration between the US and the Mexican government
so that was one of the key points of collaboration that they had and when this
whole designation thing went up that was kind of like a bargaining chip that
the
Mexican government had with the US and the rest of the things that kind of
transpired afterwards you know it's pretty interesting how a lot of things
happened after that meeting down there and how they walked back the terrorist
designation so the terrorists a terrorist designation would mean that Trump
would
have some sort of incentive to invade Mexico well it would it would it would
open up the possibility for military direct military action against strikes
without permission of the the nation that strikes were going to take place also
targeting finances or anything related to cartel activities would be targeted
we are
where do the cartels keep their cash well it's it's it's a it's right now it's
a
myriad of things they diversified long ago so it's not like they're keeping
buried
cash in a in a containing container somewhere in the in the jungle like Escobar
are you to do right right they're still finding some some like rotted cash from
the
80s they're putting their money in cryptocurrency they're really yeah they're
diversifying their their their investments in actual companies like legit
companies so
they're cleaning their money that way real estate hotels property on the US
side so
they're also investing on the US side of the border as well so you know monies
it's
it's not you know it's not under the mattress or you know giant stacks of cash
in a room
somewhere what kind of banks do business with the cartels how do they negotiate
that I'm not gonna
say names but there's been a few cases of pretty large banks that have been
involved in in money
laundering for the cartels recently people can look that up easily but you
would think you would
have a designate cartel you would have cartels designated as terrorists so now
their banks involved
in funding terrorism so that would change things that's you know there's a lot
of things that would
happen you know some some of these consequences people talk about as designated
them as a terrorist
and send drones down there things that they kind of don't talk about is that if
a terrorist designation
does happen most people seeking asylum in the US from Mexico now have the claim
of of running from
terrorists in in Mexico so so now they can claim that as far as a you know
asylum seeking people can claim
that now it's a different thing you know the main argument that a lot of people
say is that cartels
aren't can't be considered a terrorist terrorist group because they don't have
political aspirations the
problem with that theory is that we have a lot of political killings by cartels
in Mexico where they shoot
the candidate of one side of the political spectrum because it's not good for
them so they influence
politics they also pay off a lot of politicians down there and they also
examples of the new generation cartel from Guadalajara giving out
Christmas gifts or
Groceries to the poor basically doing hearts and minds type tactics in the area
are clear political
Movements, right? Yeah, so, you know, how does it why is terrorism have to be
connected to politics?
Well, that's that's a classical the classical definition of that is of a
terrorist group
That's what they're basing it on. I think the cartels and narco terrorism is a
thing in and of itself. It's a new phenomenon
It should be
Terrorism should be reclassified to include it. I think you know most people
that live through that type of
Situation in that type of and that type of area in the country facing some of
these cartel threats that have fled
We'll call it what it is. Yeah, so there is terrorism. They're terrified. Yeah,
I mean, that's literally I mean who's more terrifying than the cartels?
So what's going on with the Mormons now is are they moving out of there now are
they gonna go back to Utah and just take one wife?
Like that's what it all started out with right? Yeah, well the fundamentalist
group and they they went down there and kind of proceeded with their
Customs
I'm in contact with with a few of the members of that family and you know
I was in contact before but when I went on here they kind of like one of them
reached out like hey
What's going on? So help us out?
What do we need to do? Yeah
And then you know, it was like a friendly hello from them from past
interactions and then this happened
And you know, I kind of advise a little bit, but that's you know that it's it's
a mess
A lot of them a lot of them are leaving the communities down there
There's a lot of them down there a lot of communities in Sonora
Coahuila
And you know they're leaving they're leaving the area. It's just too dangerous
Yeah
It only makes sense. I mean they just don't have the arms. They don't have the
tactics and power
And and they're also in the middle of one of the most important regions in mexico
right now
for a lot of reasons
Main thing there's two things that are really really kind of happening in that
region one
The traffic the trafficking of fentanyl and heroin and all these drugs
Through one of the main drug routes up into the us
And there's a few factions fighting over that
Region los salazar which are a small cartel faction that has allegiances to sinaloa
cartel
And the linea cartel which is historically been in control of ciudad juarez
So they're both kind of buying for control of the area
A few hours before the the massacre actually took p