Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1417 - Kevin Ross
Uploaded: 2020-01-22T20:00:04.000Z
Description: Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1417 - Kevin Ross' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2020-01-22. Transcript available.

Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1417 - Kevin Ross' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2020-01-22. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1417 - Kevin Ross

two one kevin ross bringer of gifts what's good man how you doing good to see
you brother thank
you very much for that bag oh you're very welcome it's very cool people uh let
you know kevin brought
a giant heavy bag filled with sand that has to weigh north of 200 pounds oh
yeah i think it's
about 250. yeah it was a lot of fun getting that in my car by myself is that
your preferred method
for conditioning your shins for sure for sure you know the the thing with shin
conditioning a lot of
people do you know they smack themselves in the shin with bottles and kind of
stupid things like
that but you're you're not really creating what you need to which is a overall
um conditioning um
overall strengthening of the nerve um the bone um all you're really doing is
deadening little spots
in your nerves but that's the worst thing you can do without strengthening your
bones you're
deadening the nerves but not strengthening the bone overall and if you're not
doing that
you're gonna think your bones a lot stronger than it is but it can't handle the
impact so with with a
sandbag you're you're covering much more uh surface area and you know applying
it in a realistic
situation where you're you're able to throw kicks repeatedly at this thing and
what you what you really
want to do is do it to a degree that it's causing a certain amount of pain but
you're able to do this
daily um with with repetition because that's how you continually develop just
like getting stronger
at anything you know it can't it doesn't happen overnight you got to just do
this every day just
at the end of your session knock out a few kicks and then again tomorrow and
again the next day and you
slowly and steadily are able to go harder and harder and and um develop the
strength and conditioning in
your shins so the idea is that you're making like these little tiny micro fractures
right yeah for
sure and um yeah like i said you want to be able to cover a good surface area
so you're hitting it all
kind of at once as opposed to like little spots which is what happens when you
just whack it with a bat
or something like that my experience with whacking it with a bat is everybody
kind of quits like hey
i'm gonna condition my shins and then they just go what the am i doing and they
stop doing it well
the thing too with with when you're able to kick like that is you can kind of
slowly build up you
know you start a little bit lightly and develop a little bit stronger and you
kind of create a little
little bit of a crease and you know as you get going you your brain can kind of
wrap itself around
it a little bit better and then you start going harder and harder and by the
end of you know your
five ten minute session you're putting some serious weight into that and you're
not you're not
um noticing it as much yeah we were talking about your your um knee that you
had a fracture in your
knee that you didn't realize you had yeah and that's that's it's weird like the
thing that disturbs
me maybe the most in kickboxing and so i've only seen it a few times is when
someone checks a kick and
their their leg snaps in half yeah like tyrone spong when he fought gokan sake
or anderson silver when he
fought chris weidman same thing that snap of when the the shin gives out like
that can you prevent that
from doing this obviously it's one of those just freak things that happens you
know clearly with those
guys you can have the most conditioned shins in the world but you catch them
the wrong way at the wrong
time it can happen and it's rare but it does happen and it doesn't really
matter how long you've been
doing this how strong your shins are sometimes things just break i always
wonder how many guys
have little breaks and they don't know about it too probably a lot yeah a lot
yeah they said that's
what happened with anderson that anderson threw a kick and he broke it before
that like he felt
something was wrong and then when he threw that second kick and it snapped in
half that's that's why
it did that yeah yeah that makes sense well weidman was checking it perfect he
was checking it
right at the top of his knee yeah and you know that's a big thing with um you
know fighting a lot
of a lot of people tend to just blindly just pick their shin up you know as
opposed to paying attention
to where it is on your shin that it's hitting just just like when you're
kicking you need to pay
attention to what piece of your leg you're hitting with which piece of your
shin you're checking with and
the higher up on your shin it is the harder it's going to be and when you're
southpaw versus orthodox
and throwing that inside leg kick you're you're you're coming upwards at an
angle which is tends to
be like low on your foot or your your your ankle and then you're checking with
high up by your knee
so you have the smallest part of your shin connecting with the the hardest part
of somebody
else's and with that that's just the the one that tends to do that yeah it's a
shin on shin contact
is such a brutal thing like i think everybody should experience it once yeah
you know just crack
yeah and you know the funny thing is it doesn't matter how long you've you've
done this for you
we watch these fights and assume that they don't feel pain and that it doesn't
bother them but even guys
with hundreds and hundreds of fights you see them the next day and they're gimping
around pretty
good yeah you know we have this idea in our brains that eventually you're going
to get to a point when
you just don't feel pain and it doesn't bother you but eventually you realize
that never happens you
know and it's better to get that out of your head now you know muay thai and
kickboxing and anything
that's bone on bone is it's going to be painful and that's part of the art of
it you learn how to
place your kicks better and pay attention to what you're doing and yeah of
course you you develop
your shin conditioning and that kind of thing but it always hurts it's always
going to hurt it's such
a brutally effective way to fight and it's so interesting that thailand perfected
that yeah
i've always been fascinated by that like you think about the entire world it's
an enormous world and
people have been fighting in this enormous world from the beginning of time and
this one island they
said hey i got an idea well it's it's a cultural thing over there you know it's
part of their
upbringing it's like baseball over here or soccer and other parts of the world
where everybody kind
of does it to one extent or the other and you know clearly if you're doing this
from a time you're a
child particularly when it's a job like it is for them over there and it's a it's
more than just for
fun it's not for fun it's it's like this is how i survive it's this or working
in the fields you know
and and that completely changes their mentality about it and that's why when
you go there it's
like obviously the skill for sure but but the mentality and their reasons for
doing this like
it's so different it's so different yeah and they start so young and there's
they're they're basically
sent to these camps and they start fighting like you know before they're like
10 years old yeah
oftentimes yeah a lot of these kids you know their their families send them to
these these camps and
that's where they're raised you know they're raised in a gym to be fighters and
to work for the gyms
i mean that that's really what they're doing is they're working you know they're
they're getting
money to send back to their families and they're not doing this for fun they're
not doing this as a
hobby i've always been fascinated by the way that ties spar as well because i
think it's really
interesting that given that they do fight so often and their livelihood depends
on it and that it is not
a game they've really figured out a bunch of things and one of the things they
figured out is
hit the pads hard hit the bag hard spar light yeah yeah there's um there's give
and take to
everything that we do and we're trying to maximize um our learning and minimize
the the damage or the
the risk of injury that we're taking and we have the opposite approach here in
america just beat the
out of each other and you know that's good that's how you're going to get
better but you don't really
develop when you're going hard like that you're learning how to be tough and
you're learning how to
take damage and you're you know learning how to be in the fire like that which
is important but
you're not really developing you know when you when you're playing when you're
practicing when
you're not thinking about getting injured or knocked out you're able to
learn new and apply new things and new techniques and and and practice things
that you normally wouldn't
it's like when when you're worried about getting hurt you're only going to
focus on the things that
you're really good at you know you're not going to try these different
approaches and that's what really
limits a lot of our development you know a lot of you see a lot of fighters
their their ability kind
of levels off at to a certain degree and they don't they don't continually
develop as their careers
go on and they also don't last very long either because the amount of damage
their their bodies and
their brains are um taking you know each one of us only has a finite number of
shots to the head
we can take and shots of the body we can take and do you want to use those in
the gym or do you want
to use those in the ring um you know and i think it's really about finding a
good balance between
that you know in the beginning all i did was just go crazy and spar super hard
six days a week leading
all the way up to the fight and six days a week you were sparring hard really
yeah yeah and with
guy i mean the smallest guy i had to work with coming up was probably 20 pounds
bigger than me
and you know in a lot of ways this helped me develop and gain a lot of strength
and confidence and and
ability to take that kind of punishment but it also did a lot of detrimental
things a lot of stupid
injuries a lot of damage you know over the years i've come to develop and get
more onto the the
tie approach of things and and practice and playing and you know finding when
the time to go hard is
and when the time to to learn and develop is and what's counterproductive and
what isn't how do you
make that distinction like how do you know when's the time to go hard you don't
you don't really i
mean everything that we do is a process of trial and error you know and i think
once you kind of
understand that you can think clearly and and apply the things you need to in
the midst of that
firefight which which you know is really what shuts a lot of people down in the
beginning they they can't
process the information that's happening because it's so intense and and that
is why it's important
to kind of have that in and have that fight like situation scenario in in the
gym but once you've done
that and you've had the experience and all of that i think it's it's so much so
much more beneficial to
start going towards the other direction especially if you want to stay in this
sport for
a a good amount of time and and and not take unnecessary damage for really no
no purpose whatsoever
um it should to me it should be the exception and not the rule you know like
have those hard training
sessions ends once in a while especially if you can get working with people
that you're not used to
because because you know obviously when you fight it's you don't know what they're
really doing in
there and um it's like working with a stranger and in the gym we we know each
other so well that we
tend to just work on those things and not practice um but but that's how we
develop and if we're not
doing that we're really limiting ourselves it's got to be difficult to find the
right balance
in terms of like what gym you're training at like where are you training at
these days i'm down in
san diego now i moved down there uh two years ago at the uh the boxing club oh
there's that