Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1436 - Adam Curry
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1436 - Adam Curry' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2020-03-04. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1436 - Adam Curry

we uh we sparked one up on new year's eve we put filled up that hole oh the
actual oh my god
rolling paper that came with big bamboo that was the first time i really went
out where we're
live right now so just let everybody know we're talking about cheech and chong's
album big bamboo
that actually came with a real rolling paper yeah huge just across the i think
it was across the
double the the double album dude you have a flip phone i do i do i do stepped
out otg brother yeah
you figured it out create less data yeah that's that's my motto is that what it
is yeah well two
things one um your phone is always fucking with you it's yeah it's notifying
and you know yeah and i
just didn't want to be a part of that anymore i wanted to you know be a little
more connected to
life outside you can still call people well this is so this is actually a new
flip phone from um
t-mobile alcatel and it it has ki os which is so it's not really a trackable os
uh although google
put an investment into it oh you're serious about this oh i'm very serious
about it yeah oh yeah and
you know so all the apps are all they're all tracking you they're all doing all
kinds of shit
but initially really just to not be you know a slave to this thing yeah uh and
the further i got
into it the more i liked it uh and you don't really need it now i have a device
with me that's off
this works as a hot spot so i can turn into a hot spot if i really really
really needed to do
something but what do you need right text phone call right and if there's
something that i really
need to look up you just turn around and say hey can someone google this for me
they do it there's
always someone around are you texting on that thing yeah yeah do t9 is that
what you're doing they
have a uh it's like a t9 it's a little bit better it's their their version of
predictive texting
um yeah i really am serious about it well you should be yeah everyone should be
yeah the problem i mean
we have all this cool shit all this great technology but the business model
fucked us all i mean six
years ago i had the first amazon echo i'm like this is groundbreaking uh dvorak
my my co-host he was
laughing at me he's like why would you bring a spy device into your house look
i'm just testing this
out if it had an apple logo on it everyone would be losing their shit right now
but it didn't
and i loved it hooked it up to the lights and all that stuff going and then as
i started to
understand what it was really doing and what it's really communicating all
these things right down to
like your roku remote you pick that up it's communicating with home base so all
this stuff
so i got rid of all of it just got rid of it um you know i was listening to one
of sam harris's
podcast and uh he was talking with someone that said and they had a really good
great quote that
we didn't realize that our data was something valuable right we didn't realize
it was a commodity
and it was being sold not just a a commodity that's kind of value but insanely
valuable extremely yeah
that's what where facebook makes all their money that's where google makes all
their money everybody
yeah everybody make it from your data and you never really understood what you
were doing when you
signed off to give that data away when you sign the terms of agreements and you're
like yeah yeah yeah
whatever and nobody reads through that shit you know what's even more egregious
is um there's a
company called plaid p-l-a-i-d and just sold the visa for i think four or five
billion dollars
and it's the um the financial back end or kind of like a bridge between all
these apps that can do
stuff with your bank account and your bank account so instead of so if you have
an app like venmo
or ah shit uh i you know name any payment cash app i didn't want to disparage
anyone who might be
advertising on your show cash app to paypal uh well does paypal do it uh paypal
has their own system
but what you do is you sign up and you literally give this app your username
and log into your bank
account instead of an api or some kind of programming interface just lets the
app talk to your bank account
and put money in take it out it can do anything it in fact it is just like
scream screen scraping it's
going it can go through anything that's connected to your bank account it can
look at and they do
and and credit karma another great a great example of it and they are just
sucking out all of your
information when you pay your bills who you pay first why you know if if you
have you know what
your pattern is of uh of credit card payment moving stuff around so you think
you're just using it as a
as a utility but they're tracking your fucking life dude you're you're really
concerned about this
well everybody will get the world they deserve you know so i'm trying to
protect myself and people i
love also you know the drone can't target me that easily with this you know so
protecting you joe
thank you it seems somewhat inevitable right that this connection that we have
to technology gets
deeper and deeper into our lives but that what what disturbs me is that there's
these giant
corporations that are not just profiting off of our connection but then they're
using that money and
that influence to affect a lot of things in our culture well they're enslaving
you yeah so credit
karma is a great example uh which also just sold for seven billion dollars it
was literally um changing your
behavior to get a higher credit score and this credit score isn't really even
an official credit score
it's the one that they kind of made up so they'll say pay your utilities on
time then we'll raise your
credit score your credit score is higher now we can lend you this money you see
so they're training
people to do certain things like um the progressive app for insurance it's
training you to drive in a
quote-unquote responsible manner because you get discounts if you you know don't
break too hard if
you're not accelerating if you're not breaking speed limits etc is it hooked up
to the gps so oh
yeah so it knows your speeds and everything it's monitoring everything if you're
breaking velocity
all of that shit oh yeah so they take that into consideration every month when
that's the whole
point the point is to train the user to be a good fiscally good person whatever
that means just
because you want to save some money well of course everyone does that and you're
going to be you're going to
be forced into it like i just got um health insurance new health insurance and
they're oh download the app
and if you download the app we'll give you a break why because they're going to
tell me to do things
this app is saying you know now it's small things but it'll start telling you
stand up you know move
around and if and if you follow it if you follow it then you'll get a discount
so we're really really
becoming enslaved that way that's a that is definitely a way to look at it that's
the business
model yeah and it gets more and more immersive yeah yeah oh yeah i did i didn't
know the progressives
app does that that's all of them do joe all of them the insurance company oh
yeah yeah that makes
sense i mean that that would be the best way to figure out if you're actually a
good driver
or if you're just some dick who gets lucky well yeah i mean that's kind of the
the marketing is
like you know if you're a good guy don't worry about it but they keep pushing
they keep pushing you know
they'll just keep telling you and you don't have to have the app active for
that to be tracked or
monitored that was one of the grossest arguments i heard after the whole uh
snowden thing like
what do you care if you're not breaking the law that's changing a little bit i
have a 29 year old
daughter and she definitely had that uh that mindset and her friends did it's
changing you know now it's
like okay we totally get it they're tracking all of our shit so we're gonna
might not use this or
we'll leave the phone at home there's a little bit of that creeping in but in
general it's like crack
you know how can you deal with it's not easy it's i mean this this phone it's
sometimes like ah i could
but no it's like and i just have to stand back and go do i really need to have
this information
right at this very moment do i really need to do this no and typically no yeah
when i feel any sort
of anxiety or boredom i just grab the phone it's just instantly my little my
little soothing blanket
or my little teething thing absolutely and i play a game with myself you know i'll
give myself points
as i'm driving around like person walking on the street holding the phone in
their hand one point
you don't need to actually hold the phone in your hand and women holy crap they
got two phones
sometimes with a little you know little button plug so it doesn't fall off they
got their bag maybe
they got their kid or a stroller and so pop up they're doing all and just they're
all over the
place all the time so it's one point for just holding it two if you're walking
and doing something i
see a lot of that how many points if you have a kid and you're walking and
looking at your phone
that seems like that'd be a bonus it's the if you're in the car 10 points if
you're walking with
your kid on the phone it's five points and you can hit 100 within five minutes
it's it's crazy it's
zombies yeah when you start to really pay attention to it when you're above
people have a truck and i want
to look down from my truck you can see people texting and it's stunning how
many people are on the
highway texting at the same time i got rear-ended um uh with my truck say maybe
two months ago uh in
austin you know right after a stoplight and i was in the left-hand lane i was
going to turn left
bam full speed it was maybe 30 35 miles an hour you know the girl's air flags
deployed she's like
i was like oh and i was in the in the truck i'm like right yeah check everyone
okay yeah i get out
and the whole front end is destroyed she's dazed i'm like so i'm trying to pry
the door open
and yep there i see the phone on the floor still open yeah and then her excuse
was well my break
didn't work okay i got my break didn't work does that ever happened my brakes
didn't i got rear-ended
the same thing there was a slowdown on the right lane and some some guy plowed
right into me and i
asked the cops i said you know i said oh this is five times five times a day
yeah i'm sure it's crazy
yeah it's it's weird that that sort of snuck up on us that there's this thing
that's incredibly
addictive um uh i was uh with my family uh this past weekend in dallas and we're
at this event as
we're walking through this crowd i'm like look how many people are on their
phones this is crazy like
everyone it's it was just you're you're going through the crowd of the store
and everyone is just
looking at their phone just yeah it's like a zombie movie they don't know they're
zombies truly is
a zombie apocalypse yeah truly yeah in the weirdest way i mean it gives you a
little bit of reward
every now and then someone has a funny meme and you're like but that's that's
what silicon valley
figured out is that the pavlovian response and the you know all the all the
brain impulses you get
from a like or a or a you know a retweet or whatever it is or even just
something just blip oh
yeah oh and we have different sounds bling blong all this stuff before we go
any further we should
give you credit you're the reason why all this started you are the original podfather
the legitimate
one like if there's a lot of people claiming that yeah you're the guy who made
the very first podcast
you even came up with the name of it right i didn't come up with the name who
came up with the
well let me go back to to the beginning because actually the technology of
podcasting was invented
in 2000 so before anyone was podcasting before there was an ipod interestingly
um i was living
in amsterdam at the time and um i was working with dave weiner who had who
really invented blogging and he
had created thi