Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1437 - Stephen Dubner
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1437 - Stephen Dubner' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2020-03-05. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1437 - Stephen Dubner

ready young jamie here we go how are you sir i'm great thanks nice to meet you
nice to meet you um
we were talking before uh about adam curry who's just here who has these crazy
ear enhancements
that are these software based so he can tweak it and change levels and stuff
like that and you were
saying that you also have hearing but you get it from rock and roll yeah i i
mean honestly i've
never been tested i just know that when i'm out eating with my family or
friends that everybody
can hear everything and i can't hear anything so uh but no i yeah i played loud
rock music for
six seven eight nine years and uh yeah it it it does what they say it does yeah
they know what
they're doing those people that tell you not to do that but look i like the
technology like i have
older relatives who have a hearing aid or whatever they call now hearing
enhancement devices that are
like light years better than they used to be oh yeah yeah so i figure if i can
hold out a couple more
years mine are gonna like be so good they'll take out the garbage too the ones
that adam has sound
pretty amazing um he said it just sounds incredible and he can actually tune
into people that are 50 feet
away 50 feet away having a conversation he can hear them and can you tune out
people you don't like
that's a good question i bet there is a way i bet he has various settings but i
bet there's like a tone
the world out setting i don't need to tone the world they're just some people
sometimes you know yeah
have you used any of those airpods that have the noise canceling technology oh
uh not airpods but i
wear bose noise cancelers almost every day um i wear them a lot you know when i
started uh as a
journalist in newsrooms uh this was whatever early late 80s early 90s um i didn't
like a newsroom is
an open place and a lot of people back then were on the phone doing your
reporting it was pre-internet
reporting right and uh i didn't you're a writer you're writing and you're
editing and i i didn't understand how
people could think with all this din going on i i couldn't do it so i started
wearing just the good
foam earplugs are made by flints i think is the brand that i use they're kind
of non-tapered and
they're very thick and if you compress them and put them in it'll block out
like you know 70 80 so i've
been shutting out the world for like 25 years now so when the the noise cancelers
got good i i've embraced
them yeah yeah some people need it though right they need that sound like at a
coffee shop like they love
to go to coffee shops and all the milling around actually helps their
creativity you know we're
doing an episode right now for economics radio on noise basically as you know
kind of we got into it
thinking about noise pollution right because noise is a funny thing it's what
economists call an
externality a negative externality meaning you can produce it and it affects me
but you i don't i
can't charge you for it right it's like pollution if you have a big factory
your pollution goes up it
blows over to someone else that's an externality on them so noise is that but
what's really interesting
is that there's a huge variance in how different people receive and perceive
noise as you just said
so some people really need it and want it for some it's a burden and then there's
all these rather
weird intricacies of noise like have you heard of misophonia you know what that
is i have heard of it
but i don't remember what it means it is um an intensely negative reaction when
you hear other
people chewing or their mouths making any sound and it can be debilitating for
people who have it
but then there's something called i'm going to get it wrong amsr asmr you know
that yeah there's
all these videos online right that right right yeah so that's it so noise is
what does that stand for
though i i i can i i'd have to look it up um automated sense or someone would
have to look it up
someone yeah response if someone screams in your ear unexpectedly and hurts
your ear that is a form of
assault right you don't think of it that way but if some if like if you saw a
girl she was standing
there and a guy ran up to her and just in her ear and she's like ah and she
just like falls down because
your ear hurts i agree you can do that with sound what about when airports play
cnn at blast volume
yeah that's i mean is that a form of assault borderline what kind of sweet deal
to cnn have
with airports i think it kind of made everybody hate cnn blasting when you don't
want to hear it
that's right right it shows that it's a little bit annoying but it's also it's
like
you don't want to be looking at all the world's problems when you're about to
get on the most
stressful thing that a person does you you have a flying you uh you have to
self-medicate pretty
heavily before flying i know i don't have to you enjoy it i enjoy enjoy it more
yeah well this is
what i the way i think of it um on a plane one of two things gets either i get
some work done or get
some entertainment i watch a movie on the laptop or i'll get some writing it
right or i can get really
really high and then get on that and just freak the out and and make it but go
through a roller coaster
ride of thoughts and and a lot of times i wind up writing too you know if i
wait when you get high
you have a a worse experience on the plane no no it's not worse it's just scary
it's not warm and
scary is not worse no because there's benefits to it there's benefits in terms
of like creativity and
then insight and like just another i have a whole bit about it but it is based
on the truth like i
oftentimes take a heavy dose of edibles and then get on a plane in order to
intentionally put yourself
in a state that can be somewhat negative but also creativity i don't i see i
don't use that word
negative i don't think it is negative even when i'm freaking out like if i'm
sitting in the chair
and i'm like whoo and you know i'm looking out the window we're flying and i'm
realizing we're
30 000 feet in the air and i'm you know really high is this uh so i'm not a
like a roller coaster
person but is this but is this a similar kind of like you put your
intentionally put yourself in a
scenario where you're going to heighten some senses is that the idea no because
i think a roller coaster
is just fun right it's just goofs this is a an essential thing you're doing you're
traveling to
a place where you're going to and as you're doing you're incredibly vulnerable
right you're immobilized
in a chair while you're going 500 miles an hour in the sky right you're like
whoa already you're
like a little weirded out if you look out the window but now when you're really
really really high
it puts you in this very strange state and you start thinking about your life
and you start
thinking about how you talk to people you start thinking about things that you've
learned and
documentaries that you find fascinating you start dwelling on weird things
and then you know oftentimes i'll either watch something or i'll start writing
so i get something
very productive out of what would be dead time it makes me it fires up my
whatever it is
that creates creativity for me whatever the source of it for me for some reason
it gets enhanced
oftentimes by being on a plane on edibles how uh predictable though is the
experience unpredictable
right so is that not a little uh frightening or no that's the fun part
you're a lunatic yeah a little bit but it's not nobody gets hurt that's the
thing yeah it's not
like a real fear and in the back of your mind you know this is just a uh yeah a
physiological
chemical response and i'm gonna exactly exactly and uh i mean that's what
paranoia really is marijuana
based paranoia if i had to guess it's a hyper awareness that you're not not
comfortable with and so in
taking it all these things it's like if you just can't settle in you're
recognizing every threat
that's around you all the time the fact that a rocket come out of the sky the
fact that the the
tsunami could hit at any moment the earth could shake what if a super volcano
blows up all those
things that you know to be real all of a sudden get dragged you put yourself
back into caveman mode
like every rustle of grass is the lion who's coming to eat all right let me ask
you a question sorry i
realize i'm not supposed to be asking you questions but i'm going to talk in
man let's do here's a
question um let's say for people who don't use drugs yeah right but they hear
you say this and like
they say wow that is i recognize the value of putting yourself in a place
emotionally cognitively
kind of unleashing yourself or maybe putting yourself in a new place where you're
going to have
thoughts big thoughts maybe scary thoughts is there a way to do that that you
know of the without drugs
yeah we were just talking about that with adam in fact uh we were talking about
holotropic breathing
and he has had some experiences with holotropic breathing it's like a
meditation based breathing
routine that uh if for whatever reason it activates psychedelic chemicals in
your brain
and you can really trip out and he was talking about how he's flying for like a
half an hour and i've
had various friends do it i've yet to experience it you've tried it no yet i've
yet to experience it
but i've had various friends who've done it who have had spectacular
experiences like like full-blown
mushroom experiences for several minutes and is it guaranteed like if you do
the breathing is it
guaranteed to get you to that state or no no i think you have to learn how to
get not as reliable as
drugs then right and also physically demanding like i think it takes a long
time i think you have to work
yourself up into this state where this stuff starts to happen and you also have
to probably follow some
routine that's tried and true right i don't know what that routine is but i do
know that people that
i trust including people like adam super smart guys will tell you that for them
it gave them the same
experience as like taking a drug all right i'm gonna look it up because i'm not
big on drugs i don't
know why just not you're smart no i'm not i'm also not judgmental about i have
i know but no issue i'm not
saying that you would be dumb to do them but i see you're a smart guy so if you're
a smart guy
and you see drugs you see a lot of people have problems with drugs and you're
fine with reality
yeah i mean i smoked dope in college and it just i mean also believe me son i
smoke dope
but uh also the dope was a different caliber then it wasn't very good it wasn't
very uh predictable and
it just i just had a bad experiences so whatever i drew i like i like whiskey
me too and i like the
predictability of like even like the difference between if i drink my lafroig
is my favorite scotch
like and if there's not that and there's another that's the stuff we had the
other day we had
lagvulin lagvulin lagvulin's good lagvulin's very close lafroig it's the it's
the pd family
some people don't like the pd stuff oh pd yeah that was the first time i think
i've ever had
anything like oh you've never had a day the bottle was half empty though so i
don't know what the
fuck happened i was probably so drunk that i was drinking it and not even
realizing it was
it's a nice thing about scotch though you can sip it kind of forever yeah if
you're you know that stuff
too i would imagine is even better when you're gently sipping it because you're
dealing with this
really exotic flavor it's also good for you is it really well let me rephrase
it's not bad for you
in terms of alcohol i mean beer look it depends how crazy you want to be about
caloric consumption
and so on but beer has a lot of calories wine has a lot of sugar and whiskey is
actually um pretty uh
pretty low cal low sugar just high alcohol content so the sugar works a little
bit differently but uh
but no my doctor fully approves of a couple drinks a night yeah there's been
research that shows that a
couple of drinks a night for most people is actually in 