Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1478 - Joel Salatin
Uploaded: 2020-05-21T19:00:05.000Z
Description: Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1478 - Joel Salatin' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2020-05-21. Transcript available.

Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1478 - Joel Salatin' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2020-05-21. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1478 - Joel Salatin

good to see you again sir good to be here thank you thanks for coming back man
i really appreciate
it this is a perfect time to talk to someone like you about our food um we're
in a very strange
crisis now and you just keep hearing time and time again in the news uh how
much ranchers and
farmers and people are really suffering right now and how much folks who don't
have anything to do
with that are now forcing they're being forced to understand the the importance
of the food supply
chain and ranchers and farmers and all the stuff that we've taken for granted
for quite a long time
now well they sure have and what's interesting about it is the juxtaposition
between the i'll
just call it the industrial the more you know a commercial industrial food
sector versus the
sector that i'm in which is a um a local centric you know a direct direct sale
branded product you know
directly from the farm uh the pandemic is the best marketing strategy we've
ever seen we're having
we're having the best season we've ever had and um and and and the same thing
was with farmers around
the country as i talked to them uh everyone that's like us that that did not go
into the supermarket
system basically that's selling in their community and they're in their region
regionally uh directly
we're having the best best year we've ever had it is the it is the um it's the
industrial uh mega system
that's cracking and so for the first time we're hearing talk of well maybe
maybe we need to add
uh resiliency to efficiency and so uh so yeah the the system that's cracking
there's plenty of food i mean plenty of food on farms being
being produced uh but of course as you know milk is being dumped pigs are being
euthanized the
problem is not at the farm level the problem is in the chain of custody between
the farmer and the
consumer and primarily in the in the uh the large scale processing uh situation
yeah these large meat
processing places uh they've they've been hit hard by the coronavirus they have
been i mean if you think
about it right now joe probably uh in in the um in the united states the only
places right now where
every day thousands of people um come together in crowded conditions are these
big meat processing plants
i mean the offices are closed the theaters are closed the convention centers
are closed uh and so the only
place where people are coming shoulder to shoulder thousands every day are in
these mega processing
facilities uh teresa and i my wife actually co-own a very small um abattoir a
slaughterhouse uh
community slaughterhouse we have 20 employees and um and the the differences
the difference in the
vulnerability in in the exposure and risk factor between our little 20 person
facility where we do
you know maybe um 50 to 70 beeves a week 100 hogs versus these mega plants that
have you know you
say beefs beefs like beef beef beefs yeah well i thought you said beefs well
there's no such word as
there's there's no such word as beefs it's beefs b-e-e-v-e-s oh okay that is
what you're saying
okay yeah beefs have you heard that before jamie no okay so so the plural of
beef is not beefs
it's beefs oh interesting all right uh i always thought that beef was just the
meat
i never thought i would assumed you would say cows well uh as a farmer cows are
are females who have
had calves right so it's a very as opposed to steers who would be cat or bulls
which would be intact
males steers non-intact so as a farmer all this nomenclature is real you know
it's uh normal for you
it's real like a theologian teases out you know presbyterians and methodists
and and uh we just say
well they're protestants so um so you know we do we do it's a it's a small uh
facility and um and you
know it's been in business for i don't know what 60 years or so uh we've only
co-owned it now for a
little bit less than 10 years but but the difference because we do stuff by
hand workstations um you know
these stainless steel work tables are what uh you know six seven eight feet
wide three feet to four
feet deep and and each one is a workstation and you've got three guys out on
the kill floor you got
two guys out in the you know the cryovac room you've got four guys in the boning
room you got a guy over
here running the sausage stuffer or the you know the grinder it's inherently
small scale spread out
completely different environment than when you're having you know 3 000 people
in a cool damp environment
uh from and i don't want to get into a rabbit trail discussion but but frankly
in these great great big
plants most of the workers are generally not americans they're they're coming
from other countries
looking for you know the american dream and so they're living in crowded
conditions because they're
trying to save every penny to send home to get you know uncle and aunt and
other family members here from
ethiopia somalia you know wherever it is and and so they're they're living in a
house that we would live
four in a house they're living you know 20 and they're eating poorly they're in
a they're in a
stressful they're they're they're often separated from their family there's
just a lot of stress
in their lives and um and and so then you throw these big uh processing
facilities they're not they're
not eating well and it's just it's just an incubator i mean if you wanted to
create an incubator for a
virus there wouldn't be a better place whereas small facilities are inherently
the workers are spread
out they tend to come from the community uh they tend to be career craft people
rather than just
you know make this cut mac you know the average poultry processing plant in our
area they say
that every job can be learned in 20 minutes so uh whereas at our plant we we
cross you know we we
cross do we you know we cut meat a while and then we go pack a while and you're
on the cut floor and
then you're you know you're you're doing different things so it's a real
different environment and so
these big plants um are very vulnerable and that's why the recalls come from
there the you know the
microbials uh come from there i mean an average um an average fast food
hamburger has pieces of 600
animals in it wow when you get a hamburger from us uh it's one animal you know
so the the just the sheer
whatever mixing you know so you know for sure um we don't know a lot about this
virus for i mean we're
learning every day and you know you gotta kind of take a little bit a grain of
salt too um but one of
the things we're certainly learning is that there's an advantage that there is
a density factor a people
density factor like an urban rural uh you know spreading out the whole social
distancing spreading out thing
is is is uh seems to be a valuable thing and so if we take that into the food
system wouldn't it be an
amazing thing if instead of having 150 to 200 mega processing facilities doing
98 of the nation's meat
if instead that were 200 000 small scale community based ecologically nested
facilities you know all
around the countryside that would be an incredibly uh resilient system well it
sounds like a much
better system like as you you were talking before about your relationship with
your customers it's a
direct to farm i mean that's really ideal right cut out the middle person there's
you cut out the
confusion whether or not the animals are ethically raised or ethically
slaughtered like what are the
conditions they're living under i mean you're uh polyface farms right so that
that whole video that you
have that that i've seen that explains the way you do regenerative farming and
you let these animals
live the way these animals are supposed to live they're not confined to cages
they're roaming around
they're eating natural foods and you get a better product you get a healthier
product and you get a better
relationship with both the animals and the people that you sell this this food
to well sure and and
ultimately what we're looking for is a habitat that allows uh you know each
life form whether it's a
plant or an animal to fully express when we call it you know expressing the pigness
of the pig or the
chickenness of the chicken you could say the tomatoness of the tomato you know
uh and and creating a habitat that
allows that life um that life to express its you know it's it's uh uh phenotypical
and physiological
distinctiveness um in humans we would call this self-affirmation you know the
the the tomness of tom
the jonas of joe right uh it's that affirmation and um and one of the things
that we're seeing as a result
as we move into the kind of the social consequences of this whole uh uh
pandemic is a um is what there's
there's a new phrase called um the screen new deal where everything is going to
ai we're gonna you know
we're we're dehumanizing and so at a very time when people need to be
personally affirmed they're being
denied their you know their their their social humanity uh element i mean you
can't even see
whether a person's smiling or frowning yeah yeah that's the worst part about
this other than the
tragedies the worst part about this is that like people aren't getting hugged
people are scared to
shake hands everyone's separated from everybody it's just very strange it is it
is and and uh you know
our our our personal energy that we get from each other uh you know like you i'm
sure i've done
numerous zoom things lately more than ever zoom conferences zoom phone
conferences different things
and uh there's just not the energy there's just there's just not you just don't
get the energy
that you get when you're right in front of each other yeah absolutely i feel
the same way about
podcasts and you know jamie i screwed up i forgot the nurse we started early
yeah yeah we can pause and
stop can we i mean yeah yeah okay we're gonna we want to give you a coronavirus
test okay you down with
that that's fine all right we'll pause right here okay so we uh did you a
little test and uh found out
you have not had it you didn't fight it off bummer but the doctor did explain
to us that there's primary
immune system and there's secondary immune system your primary immune system
most likely if you've
been in contact with it and his has you know his he's the doctor has been
around many many people that
have had it but uh your primary immune system if you're healthy he was saying
fights it off your
secondary immune system is if you have had it the infection and your body has
developed those
antibodies it's your second line of defense so most likely your first line of
defense since you
have been in contact with people that have had it your first line of defense
beat it well that's cool
yeah well i i i work on it yeah we were talking about that and i said please
save this because it's so
crazy you you drink explain what you do yeah just strengthen your immune system
so you know in this
whole thing like you i've been i've been screaming let's talk about the immune
system you know so so
um i i literally i literally have not been um sick a day basically in 20 years
i mean not the flu
not a cold not i mean just nothing and and i'm 60 63. so um i'm not saying that
arrogantly or proudly
i'm saying it gratefully that uh that i i think there are things that we can do
to really build up our
immune system one of the things that i do that kind of makes all my staff laugh
is that i routinely
bend down with the cows and drink the drink water out of the cow tank i don't
drink it when it's pond
water although i've drunk pond water but when it's you know when it's when it's
like well water you
know when it's fairly clean water i get down of course you know the cows are
dripping saliva and stuff
in it you know and i just drink right out of it just like a cow and i i'm
serious you know i believe
that that that that what it it builds your microbiome you know i want all those
bugs all that diversity we
we live in the most amazing microscopic soup i mean it's it's just it's a soup
if you could take an
electromagnetic photograph of of of the air um of where we are i mean the very
i m