Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1494 - Bret Weinstein
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1494 - Bret Weinstein' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2020-06-18. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1494 - Bret Weinstein

uh if anybody sounded the alarm that all this madness was gonna come to
fruition in the real
world it's you sir you were you were the guy like you were the one who was
saying this is
what's happening at evergreen and if you don't know go google it brett weinstein
evergreen
and now it spills out into the real world just like i said it was gonna you did
i did
i said it i said it in several different places and uh pretty clearly you know
it could have been a
tiny bit more precision but it was highly accurate you were highly accurate and
uh often maligned and
mocked people didn't think it was a big deal they think you're much ado about
nothing you're making
a big deal about some kids that are voicing their opinions on things but what
you recognized early on
was that there was an authoritarian aspect of it a forced compliance aspect of
it that's very dangerous
yeah it's all about force and um you know i've started to get calls in the last
week or two
the people who um who mocked me and others including you for making too much of
what appeared to be
college kids going wild on college campuses some of them have started to call
and say i got it wrong
what do we do now and actually i i appreciate those those calls and those
contacts because really that is
the question yeah what do we do now to pull it back yeah get the genie back in
the bottle or as
douglas murray says how do you put the brakes on this thing how do you put the
brakes on this thing
indeed well i have to tell you i'm not optimistic um i think that this is
actually the people who are
catching up to the fact that evergreen has now spilled over into the world um
have not caught up to the
the fact that this is um unstoppable at this point with the current
configuration the absence of leadership
is going to prevent us from doing what we should do and that means that the
next set of predictions
are far more dire what is your next set of predictions well i would say we are
headed for a collision course
with with history i mean we're really staring at many scenarios that end in
some kind of civil war
and while i do think it is still possible to avert that outcome i don't know
the name of the force that
gets in its way that's it's really troubling what do you think these kids want
not just kids what do
you what do you think the people that are facilitating chaos what do you think
they want well i think
there's some danger in casting them as one thing because i think we have
several things fused together
and that until you understand what has joined forces with what you're not gonna
there's no way to answer
the question all right let's break it down okay so one thing that we're seeing
is and we really have
to take this back a number of years to understand why it happened but we are
seeing occupy 2.0 now i
participated in occupy originally occupy made a lot of sense it was a complaint
about the tarp program and
too big to fail and the fact that the american public was not protected when
those who had created the
financial collapse were and that was a legitimate uh gripe and it was also a
legitimate gripe at the
beginning of the tea party movement occupy then morphed into a an anarchist
movement that was just simply
hostile to civilization and it became absurd and so when i say this is occupy 2.0
this is the anarchist version
of occupy that has now re-emerged and it has fused with black lives matter
which as i've said lots of
different places if black lives matter just simply meant what those words imply
i'd be on board with it
it doesn't it means a great deal more than that and we're beginning to see that
in the last couple of
weeks what else do you think it means well let's put it this way for some
reason it means
uh abolish the police which is possibly the stupidest proposal i have ever
heard and it's not like we
haven't seen what happens when you do that don't you think that that's just a
fearful response to
the obvious police brutality that we saw in minneapolis what's the best
response we got to do something
we need to defund the police and then everyone's like good job great great
first step at least
well no it's a dishonest presentation and i'm concerned that there as i've also
said in many
places the proposals that are coming out of this movement are quite foolish the
strategy is incredibly
smart and so that is confusing to people because when you hear folks in the
street demanding that we
abolish the police you think well okay that's never going to happen if it even
started to happen it
would be so complex to make it happen that it can't possibly be they just need
to blow off some steam
nope that's not right the fact is the police in some places can effectively be
halted in their tracks
and really if there's one most important lesson out of the whole evergreen fiasco
it's that the police
can be withdrawn from a situation and chaos takes a matter of hours to emerge
which we're also seeing
in seattle yeah um the defunding of the police which is happening in minneapolis
what are they
doing in replacement of the police well i don't know and i will say the the
thing that is trotted out as
the example that tells us that defund the police which doesn't really mean defund
the police it means
abolish the police we are told that that's safe on the basis of something like
the camden example
well camden just they they sort of broke the police down but then built up a
new version of the police
right yeah they shifted it to a different jurisdiction and look i'm not arguing
that we don't need massive
police reform and frankly i'd be up for a discussion of a total rethink of the
way we do policing but
the idea that you could withdraw the police first is absolutely insane mark lamont
hill had a uh a very
good point about the guy who was killed what is the gentleman's name that was
killed in the driving
drive-through uh fast food place richard is that i say his name um who was just
drunk and compliant
and peaceful until they were telling him they were going to arrest him even
said get me an uber and
what his point was it was a very good point why were the police even called for
that this is a non-violent
person who just happened to be drunk was he doing something he shouldn't have
been doing yes but
obviously compliant polite speaking just like very reasonably until it escalated
into this tussle and
then he lost his life if they had just had some sort of a program where they
could we're going to park
your car sir or we'll have someone drive your car to your house we're going to
call you an uber or
we're going to take you home and we're going to just write you a ticket and
work this out in court you're
not going to go to jail you don't have to be arrested you don't have to be
handcuffed you're going to be
treated like a monster you up you made a mistake but you're not a bad person
you're not a person who's
trying to hurt people the police should be there for robbers murderers rapists
that's that's what
we need the police for and this is another none of those things this is just a
guy who up and
he got drunk and he and then as they were speaking to him clear real clear not
a bad guy like the way
he's talking to the cops just talking to him very reasonably even asked for an
uber
well look i am no fan of this aggressive style of policing i'm not a fan of the
militarization of
the police i've actually i mean i've had run-ins with the police i've been hit
twice by cops so it's
not what happened uh well one of these is a long story that goes back to my
first research gig in
jamaica and the other one was uh i was participating in a protest i mean i was
very young i was probably 20.
and there was a protest about homelessness in berkeley and frankly it happened
without my
awareness that there was going to be a protest but i happened to be nearby and
i was sympathetic and so
i joined it and i was coming down the street with the protest and the cop uh
hit me with uh with a
baton knocked me down so anyway i'm no fan of this stuff i'm not defending it
but that's not what this
movement is really about and even if it is to the extent that it is what this
movement is really about
it doesn't deal with the root cause we're dealing with a symptom and it's not a
symptom that you can
treat in isolation well i had jocko willink on the podcast on monday and he had
a great point
obviously jocko was a navy seal commander and worked with uh the navy seals to
create programs for
training and what he said is that these cops have the the minimal amount of
training it's the tiniest
amount of training and then they send them on the street he goes 20 of their
time should be spent
training 20 it should be de-escalation drills simulation drills educating them
on how to communicate
with people in various situations educating them as how if one cop is in a
confrontation with someone
the next cop should step in and say let's let's just calm down mike why don't
you go go uh deal with
this over there and i'm gonna handle this and uh sir let's let's uh let's take
this from scratch like
let's work let's work this out and that having higher qualified police officers
better trained police
officers more well better compensated police forces so they're not taxed out is
really the answer to all
this and these people are they're you know nobody wants to be a cop right now
so who's doing this right
who who's the new generation from now out when when people sign up to be a
police officer who's going
to do this this it's a you have a few that are going to answer that call
because they feel like it's a
they have a duty but you're going to have a lot of people that just they can't
get other jobs and so
they choose that and maybe they're not the cream of the crop and that's very
bad for people with guns
that tell other people what to do i hear two things in what you're saying and
one of them i fully agree
with um the implication of what you just said is that less funding isn't the
solution if anything more
funding is so that we get better qualified people better training train them
right we get people
who are better suited to the job in the first place and then we train them
better so they know what
to do and i agree with that the part that i'm worried about is that i also i
think i hear you grasping
at straws and frankly they're familiar i hear everybody grasping at straws here
and what i think
is not getting said is that brutal policing is a feature not a bug right this
is part of a system
that is about something else and to the extent that i think we can all
recognize that there is something
absolutely organic about the anger that has caused people to spill into the
streets in large numbers
that anger is the result of a process that does not begin with policing it
begins with economic
phenomena and political phenomena and one of the things that spooks me is this
movement in part because it
is leaderless and i would argue rudderless it is not correctly addressing the
actual problem it is
lashing out at things that it can see it's lashing out anecdotes but the only
solution here the only
proper solution that actually saves the republic is a solution that addresses
the core problem
economic despair communities that are filled with crime and violence and gangs
and the people that come out of these communities with very little hope and all
the models that they
operate under the what what they model themselves on is what they see around
them which is all this crime
and they they don't have this sense that there's a very clear path out of this
well let's um i want
to step back to something that will sound too remote to be useful but i'm sure
it isn't i would claim
that this actually goes back to a shift in the democratic party during the clinton
administration
during the clinton administration the democratic party effectively switched it
took up the republican
party's business model moving away from defending the interests of common
people as it's a reason for
gaining power and that created