Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1538 - Douglas Murray
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1538 - Douglas Murray' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2020-09-17. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1538 - Douglas Murray

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The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
Douglas, how are you?
Great to be with you again, Joe. How are you?
Great to be with you as well.
And we were talking about you potentially being able to come to America,
hopefully, sometime soon.
That's right, I'm hoping to.
I'm hoping to. It'll be nice to be with you for the end times.
Well, I've escaped to Texas, so I think I'll avoid the end times by at least a
couple of months.
I think we'll know.
Do you think that's what it might have brought you?
I think it's already happening in California.
I mean, if it keeps burning the way it's burning, what's going to be left?
Some friends of ours sent photos from Mammoth, California, up in the mountains.
It is a hellscape. It's a terrifying vision.
It's just everything is on fire. It's so bizarre.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's a combination of events, isn't it?
That's the other thing that's so terrifying.
It's like just seeing a civilization being hit by plague, by fires, by pestilence,
by politicians, everything.
If we were in another time where we didn't have access to information, we would
be sure that this is the end.
I think we'd be expecting the sun not to come up tomorrow by this stage.
We'd be expecting demons to arise out of the fires and ride horses with searing
eyes.
And then we'd be trying to work out which of our friends were the demons and slaying
them for no reason.
Right, right. Like the Salem Witch Trials.
Yeah, it's at Los Angeles, which I was telling you that I before we got started
that I fled.
I really never thought too much about the government there.
I never thought too much about who the mayor is or who the governor is.
But my God, does that matter?
Yeah, yeah. I just saw the mayor of Portland has done another cracking one in
the last 24 hours.
I think he's sort of, there's some move to have even less policing or something
like that.
He's hilarious because he is the most progressive mayor in this country.
And they're like, fuck you, not good enough, resign, no cops, no laws, no rules.
Yeah, I saw, see, they came to his house, didn't they?
They lit his lobby on fire.
Yeah, yeah, that didn't persuade him that it was a problem.
He's like, they all, they mean the right thing.
They're anti-fascists. How could they be wrong?
That's one of the other plagues. That's one of the other plagues.
It's just amazing that that name is still being used by people.
There's some people particularly like hardcore left-wing sites that still call
them anti-fascists.
Instead of Antifa, they're calling them anti-fascists, which is like an obvious
move to distort what they've done and what they stand for and what happened in
Seattle and what's happened for over a hundred days in Portland.
Well, it all matters, doesn't it? The language matters, and everyone's been
caught on the back foot by it because a huge number of people have clearly been
persuaded that they are what they pretended they were.
You know, I suppose people are falling away bit by bit from believing that the
anti-fascists are actually anti-fascists.
But they've clearly fooled a lot of people. It's been a clever move on their
part, calling themselves this.
If they had just called themselves fascists, they might have, you know,
everyone else might have got there a bit faster.
But they were quite clever on the naming.
Yes, because if you look at what they're doing, there's nothing anti-fascist
about what they're doing at all.
In fact, what they're trying to do is get people to comply.
They're actually using fascist tactics, getting people to use their language
and comply, and they're trying to literally get rid of the current police and
the current authority, and they're trying to do it by force.
The best example of the fact they're not even trying to disguise it is that
they're trying to make everyone raise their arm.
That used to be a giveaway.
Yeah, the thing that they did in Washington, D.C. where my, I just, I'm
continually astounded.
Like every day I look at the news for a hope, like a glimmer of light, like
some reason has popped through, and it's not coming.
Every day it gets more and more bonkers.
Those people outside, a bunch of white people, by the way, screaming at this
lady who has marched for Black Lives Matter multiple times, telling her she
must raise her fist in compliance.
You know, she's my hero.
She's my glimmer of light.
Yeah.
She really is.
I, you know, quite often in sort of good times or comparatively good times,
people say things like, you know, where are the heroic people?
And they sort of forget that heroic people come up because bad things occur,
and heroism, which they didn't know was there, comes out.
I think that woman is a very good example of that.
Like she probably didn't know she had the heroic instinct to make her not go
along with the mob.
And she just, one evening in her own spare time out for dinner, proves this
incredibly heroic trait, which is, no, I won't go along with you.
You can't tell me what you do.
I won't raise my fist.
I won't kneel.
I won't dance.
So, yeah, there's a glimmer of light.
And she was really, I mean, she was in a beautiful position being that she has
marched for Black Lives Matter.
She does believe in the cause of stopping police brutality against people of
color.
She believes in all those things.
But she's like, that's not what this is.
This is a bunch of thugs bullying me into compliance.
And it's a bizarre, disgusting, natural human instinct to try to get people to
bend to your will.
And that's what all those idiots were doing when they were surrounding her with
this arbitrary gesture of raise your fist, as if that helps anything.
Also, didn't you feel, I mean, people are too generous to the people who go
along with this.
But when I saw the footage of the people in DC restaurants who did go along
with that, you know, sitting, having a quiet dinner with their girlfriend, and
then these people come in, and they sort of do agree to raise their fist.
And you can see some of them looking a little nervous when the chanting started
to become fuck the police.
You know, like, oh, not sure I'm wrong with that one.
But no, and I feel a sort of contempt for those people, because that is also
the problem.
The problem is these people who are willing to go along with the crowds and be
told by the crowd what to do.
Instead of standing up, which they should do, and saying, excuse me, I'm trying
to have a dinner with my girlfriend here.
Fuck you.
Surely.
I agree with you, but I think those people are just in fear, literally, of
their safety and possibly their life.
We've seen so many instances of people getting beaten up and stomped and kicked.
I'm sure you saw the one guy who got pulled out of his car, and a guy ran up
behind him and kicked him in the head and knocked him unconscious.
Sure, absolutely.
They're doing this for people that have done nothing wrong for no reason.
Absolutely.
But, you know, you know as well as I do, if in a restaurant in Washington, D.C.,
and a beggar comes along and disturbs the clientele, you know, the restaurant
staff will move the beggar along.
It's an ugly side.
It's an ugly, you know, division that exists.
But if a mob comes into the restaurant, the restaurant staff don't do anything
either.
I mean, everyone is in fear of these mobs.
And at some point, that has to stop.
At some point, people have to say, individually or as groups, we're not going
along with that, and you can't intimidate us.
You just can't intimidate us.
Well, that's what's scary about these things happening in places that have open
carry for firearms.
And, you know, you're seeing that, obviously, in Kenosha when that 17-year-old
kid showed up with a gun, and they attacked him, and he shot and killed two
people.
And this is a really scary moment where it could tip one way or the other.
And my fear is that after the election, it tips in the worst way possible.
Because I don't see a positive resolution left or right.
I think if Biden wins, people will be furious, and if Trump wins, people will
be furious.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, you know, I mean, I've always loved your country, and I've spent quite a
lot of time in it.
And, but I do have to say, watching it at the moment, I mean, this is all, this
is all the basis for a civil war.
Yeah.
And I'm sure, you know, you know that, but I think a lot of people haven't
quite realized this yet.
This is all, you know, my country went through this 400 years ago, a
fundamental debate over the nature of our state and our government.
And it seems to me you have a fundamental disagreement like that going on there
now.
You know, a portion of the country doesn't believe in the founding principles,
and another one holds them to be absolutely holy.
And I don't see how you reconcile that.
I agree with you.
And my friend Tim Poole was talking about this over a year ago.
He's saying, I see this country headed to civil war.
I was like, that's a bit hyperbolic.
I'm like, that's kind of ridiculous.
I thought he was just being silly.
I thought he was just taking it too far.
Like, oh, we'll be fine.
But this is pre-COVID.
This is pre...
I think COVID has ramped up everything considerably because everyone's so
nervous, and there's so many people out of work.
And there's so many people that have the time to do these things, to show up in
front of the mayor's office or the mayor's house and light it on fire in
Portland.
Because they don't have jobs.
There's nowhere to go to.
And there's also no hope.
And as they see these traditional structures, the traditional economic
structure, the traditional political structure, as they see these things
deteriorating, they're making their moves.
And this is where it gets really spooky.
Because if they continue to do things like Chaz, the six-block place in Seattle,
I mean, that seemed like almost a little bit of a test, a little bit of a test
run.
I mean, they did a Mad Max-style takeover of six blocks in Seattle and held it
for a considerable amount of time with the compliance of the mayor, who called
it the summer of love.
I know.
I saw a video of what happened after Chaz, and there were zombie-like people
lying around on the grass.
Everything seemed to be covered in urine.
And there weren't any statues, obviously.
There were a hell of a lot of plinths.
And everything had graffiti over it.
And I thought, people should realize this is what you inherit.
You'll inherit rubble.
Yes.
You'll inherit piss-stained rubble.
And I'm not sure how many people have got that lesson yet.
Well, they should read your book.
The Madness of Crowds is excellent.
It really is.
It's a very good book.
And, you know, you wrote that book before the shit really hit the fan.
But it was eerily accurate in many ways.
You were talking about the current problems and where they could lead.
And there's so much of what you were saying in that book that could be used as,
like, a guide to what's happening today.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what I hoped.
I mean, I did it a year ago.
I've updated it now.
What did you update?
Well, basically, because now it's out this month, is that, basically, I thought
something very interesting happened through the COVID era.
Which was that, at the beginning of it, I thought, like, we all thought, okay,
this is a plague, like the Justinian plague.
It's going to end the empire.
You know, we're all going to lose massive numbers of our loved ones.
And if that's the case, at least at these end times, the social justice
warriors will pipe down.
You know, it was my one consolation was, I thought, at least we won't have to
deal with them so much.
Because if everyone's got real problems, if everyone's got real complaints,
kind of microaggressions start to seem less important than they have done in
recent years.
So that was my assumption at the beginning, was if the plague was what it
seemed at first, then we'd hear less from these people.
And then my impression was th