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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'China's Economic Influence Over American Movies and Sports' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2020-12-03. Transcript available.

the Joe Rogan experience when you're talking about China and the NBA and
Hollywood movies a lot of people think of those things those the interactions
that Hollywood has that and the NBA has with China as being insidious they don't
think it's a good thing at all that China has that kind of an influence and
they also think it's embarrassing like a lot of people think that it's
embarrassing for the NBA to when the negative tweets when they're in support
Hong Kong and then all of a sudden there was some pushback and the NBA was
removed from viewership and China and there was a lot of sponsorships being
pulled and it became a giant issue and then all of a sudden you saw the NBA
kind
of backtrack and kind of kowtow and a lot of people found that to be pretty
disgusting we don't want the United States to ever be a country that's doing
that to China right if China has a bunch of I don't know what they're really
into
over there ping-pong players like what's their what's their primary sport I
don't know they have a lot of basketball that's what they like basketball so
imagine if Chinese basketball becomes super popular in the United States and
then the Chinese basketball players in the United States start talking shit
about how Apple uses slave labor and we go hey hey watch your fucking mouth
bro we won't we won't pay for your Chinese basketball anymore and then also in
China
backs off like we would think of that as being pretty gross by the United
States of
ignoring some human rights violations or or trying to whitewash them and trying
to
economically attack another country so like the saying that it's a positive
that
China has all these people and using as an example the fact they strong-arm
Hollywood
and they strong-arm the NBA a lot of people think that's moving in the wrong
direction me included like I don't want well no I don't think it's positive I'm
saying we need to be in a position to level the playing field but is that
leveling the playing field or will we just look we're the corporations have a
giant problem with infinite growth right yep this is a thing that seems
completely totally preposterous but it's the norm and the standard in the
business world you you want your growth to increase every year no matter what
and
God knows where that goes I'm not a mathematician or an economist but if you
you extrapolate and keep going with that it leads to preposterous outcomes
right
that's what people would be worried about tenfold if there's a billion people
here they'll be like oh my god would be even more ruthless and more cutthroat
and
and and more like maybe more competitive with the rest of the world but in what
way well so here let's talk about the China okay right so the NBA is under
China's thumb yeah because they need access to that market do Hollywood well
they think they do aren't they rich as fuck so we could say right maybe we need
to have a rule that says like well you know you you can't let the Chinese
censor your shit right yeah but this the relative size of the markets is going
to
matter right so we're we're on Spotify here right so that's a Swedish Swedish
company I think mm-hmm so you know great meatballs are here absolutely
it's a lovely country right but so so Sweden's a little country right all their
companies you know you're talking Volvo Scania Spotify they're dependent on a
global marketplace they need access right if China is the biggest market in the
world ultimately they're gonna find themselves playing by China's rules if
America stays the biggest market in the world then we can play by our rules and
not
that we should use the the way China does right we shouldn't say like no nobody
can
say bad stuff about America America we've got a great tradition of free speech
here despite some tensions it's a world of difference from China and we carry
so
many other countries smaller countries from Europe Canada Australia on our
backs in
that regard as creating a sort of cornerstone of openness as a leading
market in the world that's who it's been for so long that people don't even
think
about it but if we go into a world where China is the number one economy where
that's the number one market where that's what every company cares most about
China's rules then we're gonna be in trouble we're gonna be in trouble here the
Swedes are gonna be in trouble and I don't think that's a world we should look
forward to I mean I started talking about you know China's trying to use their
their market power to sort of censor Americans and nobody in America thinks
that's good right like there's nobody is like yeah I think it's great that like
Marvel had to take a Tibetan character out of Dr. Strange yeah isn't that crazy
like
that's you know it's not the biggest deal in the world it is kind of a big deal
though BS like what like what what is that right and it puts in perspective
like what our
disagreements actually amount to that like when you compare us to China this is
gulf right and like don't we want to stay
number one don't we want to have the biggest market the biggest economy so you
think that it's ever possible though to if we got big enough we could ignore
the
influence of China do you think they would put that money aside because China
is
always going to be big well I don't think you ignore it but you are able to
have the
upper hand do you really think that we could ever get to a point where Marvel
would say you know what fuck China we're putting a Tibetan guy in there
supposed to be Tibetan well you're in a place where you can say to them you've
got
to we don't have to make it a white woman yeah with a bald head let's make it a
Tibetan guy like it is in the comic book I think in the comic book it's a guy
right
I think so yeah well either way it's the Tibetan it's definitely Tibetan yeah
the
ancient one yeah I don't think it's a woman either I think they went full
diversity
they they they maybe it's a good move going with a bald lady and people will
say less shit
than if you go with I mean I think that that's I think that that's right you
you you gender bend
it so then it it's like well maybe you shouldn't criticize that right because
it's good but it's
like no we know what actually is motivating yeah this and it's it sucks but do
you
think we could ever get to a point where China wouldn't have an influence
because
China is still going to be a billion people in a huge market they're big but I
think we can be number one I mean there's beyond growth like I think that we
have to be more forceful government wise in how we treat our own companies
willingness to cater into that like I think that we need to put some social
pressure if nothing else on Hollywood to not do that kind of thing they but see
they did hedge their bets by making it a woman it was like very clever sure it's
a
clever little way of being a bitch do you remember when the World Health
Organization there was a spokesperson for the World Health Organization being
interviewed by this woman and she kept asking them about Taiwan and the
he hung up the phone and hung up the show the camera and then when he came back
on
she was like so we were talking about Taiwan it's like well China's done an
amazing job and I think we've kind of covered that and she's like well and
everybody's like look at this he won't even mention Taiwan like because Taiwan
is
not a recognized entity by the People's Republic of China or whatever the fuck
they
call that's the time I mean you know the WHO is like a unique bind in that
regard but it's you know it's troubling right like when you see the Olympics
right
on NBC like the broadcast was referring to Taiwan as Chinese Taipei which was
like
some kind of international yeah and you're watching like this is BS you know
like it's
fine if the IOC itself because like you want to have China in the Olympics it's
a big
country and so you know they want to be a pain in the ass about it I don't know
maybe you got to give
but like an American television broadcaster it's like have some self-respect
yeah it's
it's called Taiwan I like I don't know yeah I don't know what Taiwan means or I
was just
like that's what it's called yeah you're not allowed to say I'm not gonna
pretend
it's not amazing though they're willing to capitulate
but that's what people do you know it's so weird the like the Doctor Strange
thing is weird
but there's a lot of instances the NBA thing's weird there's so many of these
things that are weird
you're like what really but you just realize how much money is coming from
China yep and that you know
they've worked very hard to expand that influence and reinforce that influence
they're
very deliberate about it and I think it's something America needs to be more
serious
about you know and I think people just like people in culture and society you
need to be more outspoken
that like you know because each little compromise I'm sure whoever in the
script meeting was like
can we just make this a white lady yeah it's like well what's the big deal
right well okay but we're
like completely erasing the Doctor Strange Tibetan well also Tibetan culture
right yeah
you know like Tibetan culture is not that big a deal in the United States of
course because we're the
United States but this is one of its footprints right and to just snuff it out
like that because of
Chinese money because you want the Chinese market and like that's that sucks
yeah there was a video about
all the different things they've done to films to cater to Chinese markets and
how different they make
these movies it's and it was really bizarre yep um would that change at all if
there was a billion Americans
I mean I think it would I think that the more America has clout the more we can
say
look you have to say no to Chinese censorship if you want to be in the American
market
I don't think that's going to be a realistic approach if we slip and fall
further and further behind
see but they don't know that there's Chinese censorship until after the fact we
find out well Doctor Strange's
mentor was actually supposed to be a Tibetan man they turned into a bald lady
well no I mean with like with the movies there's a whole process a pen America
did a good report about this but like
where Hollywood films are submitted to the Chinese censors and you know we
ought to say I mean a whole
billion thing aside like I think we ought to say like no like you can't you can't
do that
did uh you know if the Chinese don't want to say no to that didn't did Tarantino
say no to the editing of scenes
I think there was a thing they wanted edited out it might have been about Bruce
Lee
because you know there's this which I found distasteful even though I'm a giant
Tarantino fan
his portrayal of Bruce Lee is just not accurate it made him look like a buffoon
oh in uh
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood yeah
I think they resisted the changing is that true here it is uh Tarantino uh one
of the rare directors
with the power to demand final cut on his relatively expensive films reportedly
has no intention of re-editing the picture
not for Shannon Lee not for Chinese censors squeamish about the film's graphic
violence
not for any reason yeah he refuses to recut for the Chinese market
yeah and I mean you know I don't know I mean that that Bruce Lee was not it was
funny
scroll down scroll down but it's not really fair to him
okay look at that the film will not be released in China
mm-hmm wow he refused to edit the Bruce Lee scene out in order to secure a
theatrical release in China
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China's Economic Influence Over American Movies and Sports

the Joe Rogan experience when you're talking about China and the NBA and
Hollywood movies a lot of people think of those things those the interactions
that Hollywood has that and the NBA has with China as being insidious they don't
think it's a good thing at all that China has that kind of an influence and
they also think it's embarrassing like a lot of people think that it's
embarrassing for the NBA to when the negative tweets when they're in support
Hong Kong and then all of a sudden there was some pushback and the NBA was
removed from viewership and China and there was a lot of sponsorships being
pulled and it became a giant issue and then all of a sudden you saw the NBA
kind
of backtrack and kind of kowtow and a lot of people found that to be pretty
disgusting we don't want the United States to ever be a country that's doing
that to China right if China has a bunch of I don't know what they're really
into
over there ping-pong players like what's their what's their primary sport I
don't know they have a lot of basketball that's what they like basketball so
imagine if Chinese basketball becomes super popular in the United States and
then the Chinese basketball players in the United States start talking shit
about how Apple uses slave labor and we go hey hey watch your fucking mouth
bro we won't we won't pay for your Chinese basketball anymore and then also in
China
backs off like we would think of that as being pretty gross by the United
States of
ignoring some human rights violations or or trying to whitewash them and trying
to
economically attack another country so like the saying that it's a positive
that
China has all these people and using as an example the fact they strong-arm
Hollywood
and they strong-arm the NBA a lot of people think that's moving in the wrong
direction me included like I don't want well no I don't think it's positive I'm
saying we need to be in a position to level the playing field but is that
leveling the playing field or will we just look we're the corporations have a
giant problem with infinite growth right yep this is a thing that seems
completely totally preposterous but it's the norm and the standard in the
business world you you want your growth to increase every year no matter what
and
God knows where that goes I'm not a mathematician or an economist but if you
you extrapolate and keep going with that it leads to preposterous outcomes
right
that's what people would be worried about tenfold if there's a billion people
here they'll be like oh my god would be even more ruthless and more cutthroat
and
and and more like maybe more competitive with the rest of the world but in what
way well so here let's talk about the China okay right so the NBA is under
China's thumb yeah because they need access to that market do Hollywood well
they think they do aren't they rich as fuck so we could say right maybe we need
to have a rule that says like well you know you you can't let the Chinese
censor your shit right yeah but this the relative size of the markets is going
to
matter right so we're we're on Spotify here right so that's a Swedish Swedish
company I think mm-hmm so you know great meatballs are here absolutely
it's a lovely country right but so so Sweden's a little country right all their
companies you know you're talking Volvo Scania Spotify they're dependent on a
global marketplace they need access right if China is the biggest market in the
world ultimately they're gonna find themselves playing by China's rules if
America stays the biggest market in the world then we can play by our rules and
not
that we should use the the way China does right we shouldn't say like no nobody
can
say bad stuff about America America we've got a great tradition of free speech
here despite some tensions it's a world of difference from China and we carry
so
many other countries smaller countries from Europe Canada Australia on our
backs in
that regard as creating a sort of cornerstone of openness as a leading
market in the world that's who it's been for so long that people don't even
think
about it but if we go into a world where China is the number one economy where
that's the number one market where that's what every company cares most about
China's rules then we're gonna be in trouble we're gonna be in trouble here the
Swedes are gonna be in trouble and I don't think that's a world we should look
forward to I mean I started talking about you know China's trying to use their
their market power to sort of censor Americans and nobody in America thinks
that's good right like there's nobody is like yeah I think it's great that like
Marvel had to take a Tibetan character out of Dr. Strange yeah isn't that crazy
like
that's you know it's not the biggest deal in the world it is kind of a big deal
though BS like what like what what is that right and it puts in perspective
like what our
disagreements actually amount to that like when you compare us to China this is
gulf right and like don't we want to stay
number one don't we want to have the biggest market the biggest economy so you
think that it's ever possible though to if we got big enough we could ignore
the
influence of China do you think they would put that money aside because China
is
always going to be big well I don't think you ignore it but you are able to
have the
upper hand do you really think that we could ever get to a point where Marvel
would say you know what fuck China we're putting a Tibetan guy in there
supposed to be Tibetan well you're in a place where you can say to them you've
got
to we don't have to make it a white woman yeah with a bald head let's make it a
Tibetan guy like it is in the comic book I think in the comic book it's a guy
right
I think so yeah well either way it's the Tibetan it's definitely Tibetan yeah
the
ancient one yeah I don't think it's a woman either I think they went full
diversity
they they they maybe it's a good move going with a bald lady and people will
say less shit
than if you go with I mean I think that that's I think that that's right you
you you gender bend
it so then it it's like well maybe you shouldn't criticize that right because
it's good but it's
like no we know what actually is motivating yeah this and it's it sucks but do
you
think we could ever get to a point where China wouldn't have an influence
because
China is still going to be a billion people in a huge market they're big but I
think we can be number one I mean there's beyond growth like I think that we
have to be more forceful government wise in how we treat our own companies
willingness to cater into that like I think that we need to put some social
pressure if nothing else on Hollywood to not do that kind of thing they but see
they did hedge their bets by making it a woman it was like very clever sure it's
a
clever little way of being a bitch do you remember when the World Health
Organization there was a spokesperson for the World Health Organization being
interviewed by this woman and she kept asking them about Taiwan and the
he hung up the phone and hung up the show the camera and then when he came back
on
she was like so we were talking about Taiwan it's like well China's done an
amazing job and I think we've kind of covered that and she's like well and
everybody's like look at this he won't even mention Taiwan like because Taiwan
is
not a recognized entity by the People's Republic of China or whatever the fuck
they
call that's the time I mean you know the WHO is like a unique bind in that
regard but it's you know it's troubling right like when you see the Olympics
right
on NBC like the broadcast was referring to Taiwan as Chinese Taipei which was
like
some kind of international yeah and you're watching like this is BS you know
like it's
fine if the IOC itself because like you want to have China in the Olympics it's
a big
country and so you know they want to be a pain in the ass about it I don't know
maybe you got to give
but like an American television broadcaster it's like have some self-respect
yeah it's
it's called Taiwan I like I don't know yeah I don't know what Taiwan means or I
was just
like that's what it's called yeah you're not allowed to say I'm not gonna
pretend
it's not amazing though they're willing to capitulate
but that's what people do you know it's so weird the like the Doctor Strange
thing is weird
but there's a lot of instances the NBA thing's weird there's so many of these
things that are weird
you're like what really but you just realize how much money is coming from
China yep and that you know
they've worked very hard to expand that influence and reinforce that influence
they're
very deliberate about it and I think it's something America needs to be more
serious
about you know and I think people just like people in culture and society you
need to be more outspoken
that like you know because each little compromise I'm sure whoever in the
script meeting was like
can we just make this a white lady yeah it's like well what's the big deal
right well okay but we're
like completely erasing the Doctor Strange Tibetan well also Tibetan culture
right yeah
you know like Tibetan culture is not that big a deal in the United States of
course because we're the
United States but this is one of its footprints right and to just snuff it out
like that because of
Chinese money because you want the Chinese market and like that's that sucks
yeah there was a video about
all the different things they've done to films to cater to Chinese markets and
how different they make
these movies it's and it was really bizarre yep um would that change at all if
there was a billion Americans
I mean I think it would I think that the more America has clout the more we can
say
look you have to say no to Chinese censorship if you want to be in the American
market
I don't think that's going to be a realistic approach if we slip and fall
further and further behind
see but they don't know that there's Chinese censorship until after the fact we
find out well Doctor Strange's
mentor was actually supposed to be a Tibetan man they turned into a bald lady
well no I mean with like with the movies there's a whole process a pen America
did a good report about this but like
where Hollywood films are submitted to the Chinese censors and you know we
ought to say I mean a whole
billion thing aside like I think we ought to say like no like you can't you can't
do that
did uh you know if the Chinese don't want to say no to that didn't did Tarantino
say no to the editing of scenes
I think there was a thing they wanted edited out it might have been about Bruce
Lee
because you know there's this which I found distasteful even though I'm a giant
Tarantino fan
his portrayal of Bruce Lee is just not accurate it made him look like a buffoon
oh in uh
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood yeah
I think they resisted the changing is that true here it is uh Tarantino uh one
of the rare directors
with the power to demand final cut on his relatively expensive films reportedly
has no intention of re-editing the picture
not for Shannon Lee not for Chinese censors squeamish about the film's graphic
violence
not for any reason yeah he refuses to recut for the Chinese market
yeah and I mean you know I don't know I mean that that Bruce Lee was not it was
funny
scroll down scroll down but it's not really fair to him
okay look at that the film will not be released in China
mm-hmm wow he refused to edit the Bruce Lee scene out in order to secure a
theatrical release in China
catch new episodes of the Joe Rogan Experience for free only on Spotify
watch back catalog JRE videos on Spotify including clips
easily seamlessly switch between video and audio experience
on Spotify you can listen to the JRE in the background while using other apps
and can download episodes to save on data costs all for free
Spotify is absolutely free
you don't have to have a premium account to watch new JRE episodes
you just need to search for the JRE on your Spotify app
go to Spotify n