Name: 8 Years Later Phil Demers is Still Being Sued by Marineland
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Watch the stand-up comedy video '8 Years Later Phil Demers is Still Being Sued by Marineland' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2021-01-07. Transcript available.

the Joe Rogan experience you and I would have met eight years ago just about to
the date in a few
months because it will be the eight-year anniversary of my being sued by marine
land of Canada for
plotting to steal a walrus which would have been in February of 2013 I it's
been so long I hardly
remember how we were introduced I can tell you the story please do when I was
sued by marine land
the headlines international were quite absurd one of which in the said the
Kanye West of animal
training gets sued for 1.5 and I tweeted to you saying dude they're calling me
the Kanye West of
animal training he's like they're calling you the what and then you put
straight to my DM he said
dude you got to come to LA and we got to talk about this I'm like dude I'm on
the next flight let's do
it well I've always had a soft spot in my heart for dolphins and orcas and and
I just I think we're
gonna look at I've said this before on the podcast with you but I think we're
gonna look at in the
future the same way we look at slavery I think they're it makes me sad just
talking about it
I think I think they're as intelligent as we are I think they're just different
and because we don't
understand their language we uh we think it's okay and I think it's it's beyond
fucked up watching
your documentary made me cry man made me really cry when I was watching that
dolphin get force-fed
god damn that's hard when they're holding his mouth open and shoving fish in
his throat I'm like
fucking Christ what what is that imagine a person imagine a person I mean you're
dealing with an animal
that has a cerebral cortex it's 40% larger than a person's can I tell you the
story of that animal his name
was Sam he came in an old male dolphin wild-caught from Russia and when we
received him you only had
to take one look and realize this animal is going to reject captivity he's a
fucking warrior he's got
scars up and down this is not an animal that's going to accept being told what
to do by idiots like me
and you just saw he rejected captivity we did everything we could to keep him
alive and you know
if you notice in the documentary I was told to turn the camera off and I said
no no this is important
I knew then that a lot of the documentation of the things that I was taking
could prove useful in the future I didn't have a agenda when I was there
remember I was a company
guy I well you were a kid and I was a kid that's what's crazy about your
documentary the walrus and
the whistleblower I know I came to the right place Joe you've always been the
biggest support and the
fact that you answer all my calls you're one of the last and I just know I'm in
the right place
this is my safe place and uh thank you for that I'm invested I'm invested in
you and your thing
and this this this project and the fact that Canada stepped up and made all orca
and dolphin
captivity illegal and that doesn't exist without you and I having had done this
it it the the backstory
to that is it was an interview of with you and I where the senator's son
approached the center and
said is there any way we can help this guy and then suddenly a private member's
bills was
introduced you know I got a call saying hey we're looking to work on something
here and I was
like absolutely and that's how the bill got drafted it doesn't exist without
you
and I haven't spoken so in every which way I have you to thank and the world
over has you to thank
because the influence that you have had on the passing of this law and now it's
progressing to
other countries other countries are consulting with I'm actually being
witnessed in Australia
I submitted some uh a witness uh testimony whatnot to to support the a similar
ban and also I'd like
to take the opportunity to take this time to say that there's more laws coming
in Canada the next
law that's been introduced by the same senator uh uh uh senator Murray Sinclair
who's who's actually
retiring but he now has introduced what's called the Jane Goodall Act which is
now going to extend
an animal protections and ban the captivity of great apes big cats because
there's you know there's some
places in Ontario in Canada that are awful that they just breed these cats
rapidly and it's just
it's just not the place to have them they're riding elephants at a place called
uh African lion safari
you're next anyways laws are coming so Joe in every which way that I get
attributed with having done all
this stuff I attribute it right back to you that's the influence of this show I
knew something eight years
ago when I was desperate in looking for a place to to where I can speak unimpeded
the media doesn't allow
me that with the lawsuits and everything on me a lot of places won't talk to me
because they get
threatened to be sued you kept talking to me and so we're here today in
celebration of every which way
that you have influenced both my life and the way that we can continue to
influence uh uh the state
of the fucking planet for these majestic animals I mean really let's it doesn't
take a lot of thinking
to realize that dolphins porpoises and whales have like you say a higher
intelligence I'll even challenge
to suggest that they may be even more emotionally intelligent than we could
ever appreciate I mean
there's a chance that they're more intelligent than us so you know when you say
that what watching that
dolphin get force-fed I have 12 years of that to process and to discuss and to
talk and it's
invaluable that my experience that I have these open channels to speak and I
have them because of you so
well I'm thank you Joe I'm honored and I'm happy and you you've been here I
mean if we're going back
eight years this is literally the beginning of the podcast when it was just you
were one of like the
first groups of interviews because I was just kind of talking shit with my
friends most of the time back
episode 425 it didn't have um I mean it wasn't it didn't have an impact on
culture it was just a a silly
thing that we were doing and so to talk to you about something that meant
something to me and for to see
that you've been just fucking swinging duking it out all these years you know
when you watch the documentary
you get a real sense of how long this has been a part of your life it's crazy
goosebumps you've even got
though you're even rocking the glasses old man style now I bought these you've
been coming on forever and
now you're rocking so gray now you're rocking glasses like this it's it's
really nuts man when you look at
the the overall time spent battling this out I can't think of another person
that's more on the forefront
of uh marine mammal captivity than you are and again I have for you to thank
for all of that um son I have
you to thank I wouldn't have I would just been just talking shit about it I
would I mean I never thought
that it would have an impact I didn't you know it wasn't a plan I knew the
second you dm'd me I thought
this is it this is my chance and then years went by and it occurred to me I'm
gonna have to go again
this doesn't end and I came back and then the bills start piling up again and
then I got to come back
this is now the fifth time I've been here Joe I will say this that's crazy I
will say this you have
the most influential podcast in the world the fact that I've had to come here
five times will tell you
just how much abuse that it is that I've endured systematic abuse through both
the courts you know
marine lands lawyer Andrew burns is really good at doing what he does which is
abuse the system and you
know by virtue of I'm still here accruing inordinate amounts of of debt for a
lawsuit that can easily be
be resolved it's a trespassing lawsuit I never I never stepped foot on the
property there isn't an iota of
evidence that I've been presented in a multi-million dollar lawsuit against me
that I'm able to defend
against there's nothing it's all fiction they're literally created a bullshit
story about me and are
using the courts to in every which way silence me
and what's crazy is during this time the owners died from the time you came on
the podcast way back
eight years ago till now the owner's now dead the guy that you were calling out
on the podcast back
then and the guy who's in the documentary you see him and you you see his just
his demeanor and his
attitude and everything about it it's just and now the fact that he's gone but
yet the lawsuit rages on
and that's what screams that this is now personal lawyers uh their reputation
is everything marine
lands lawyer thought this would go away a long time ago because it's not and
because I've taken a lot of
options away from him as I continue down this very long process uh I think he's
getting nervous a little
bit this has become a hallmark lawsuit in Canada a lot of eyes are on on on
what he's doing and there's
going to be a lot more after this and in a lot of ways he's making himself
famous for all the wrong
fucking reasons but I'm happy to be on the show to help make that happen but
there's no good side
to keeping those animals in captivity there's no good side to be running a
place like marine land
there's no there's no upside it's I mean the video alone if you watch the
documentary
the video alone of the the damage their skin when they're using chlorine and
seeing those animals
bleeding and seeing those animals getting force-fed there's no defending it you
can't defend that it's
not and we have this concept of intelligence based on our own ability to
manipulate the environment
around us our concept of intelligence is based on our ability to build things
and drive a car and fly
a plane and that's how we we we need to see manipulation in order to to to
believe that it's
intelligent life but these animals speak in a way that they've been I mean Lily
was trying to decipher
dolphin intelligence in the 1960s they still don't know what the fuck they're
saying they've determined
that there's some sort of they have dialects and they have they have different
accents for different
regions but they don't know what they're saying they still don't these are
insanely intelligent animals
I don't want to I don't want to say give up on the idea of interpreting
language necessarily but the
idea that we can attribute words to their sounds is just not it's not the thing
to do and again I'm not
gonna take anything away from scientists are doing this of course but I can I
can attest that in my
experience being there the things that I took note of in in terms of how they
communicated I can tell
you when a dolphin was sad angry excited all of these things I can tell you I
mean I can I can
attribute what I believe that to have been now in my experience yeah I would
say that that holds true
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