Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1591 - Jordan Burroughs
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1591 - Jordan Burroughs' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2021-01-08. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1591 - Jordan Burroughs

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Jordan, pleasure to meet you, man.
Yeah, good to meet you, bro.
Really, really pleasure to meet you.
I'm a big fan.
I think what you're doing, first of all, I think it's amazing that no one's
talked to
you into doing MMA.
It's incredible.
I've been close.
How close?
Mostly the lady outside, my wife, Lauren, is the one that's talking me out of
it.
Really?
Yeah, bro.
When I graduated from college in 2011, University of Nebraska, wrestling was
still on the brink
of, it was in its infancy of marketing and branding and really making it a
professional
career.
So MMA was the new kid on the block, and it was growing and expanding, and we
had a lot
of our guys transitioning in, Henry Cejudo, Ben Askren, Daniel Cormier, and so
I really
thought about it.
I was like, okay, I'm going to wrestle in the Olympics in London, 2012, win the
gold, and
then I'm going to make the transition to MMA.
I'll be 25 years old.
I'll have plenty of time, and then I met Lauren, and she's like, listen, you're
doing well
in the sport.
Stay here.
You're comfortable.
It's just a different sport, MMA, in comparison to wrestling, but it's a good
thing.
It is a different sport, and it also has a lot more head trauma, and there's a
lot of things
to consider.
100%.
That's what I think about all the time.
Listen, I think about going to MMA until I see a guy like Platinum Mike Perry
get his
whole thing split, nose crooked.
I'm like, eh, I'm good.
It's like in wrestling, you lose.
You get taken down, pushed out.
You get pinned.
In fighting, you lose.
You get something broken, choked out, tap.
It's unconscious.
It's a very, very different sport.
Wrestling, you score as many points as possible, doing the least damage as
possible.
In MMA, I feel like it's different.
It's a shame that there's not more attention put on the professional, like, at
one point
in time, professional wrestling was actual wrestling.
Yeah, yeah.
It wasn't like WWE Entertainment.
It was professional wrestling, and it was done for...
Why can't they do that?
I know they tried to do that a few years back.
There was an organization, I think, was it Kevin Jackson that was doing it?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he was doing something where he was doing a professional wrestling
organization,
but it just didn't catch on for some reason.
But yet, golf is on TV.
For sure.
Baseball and all these things that are...
Bags, bro.
Cornhole.
I was watching the Cornhole Championships on ESPN the other day.
I'm like, bro, this is wild.
Like, Cornhole is on ESPN more often than wrestling.
But isn't that just now because there's no crowds and COVID and there's all the
weirdness
and there's a lot of shit that's on.
Like, if you follow SportsCenter on Instagram, like, half the shit they do is,
like, people
in their backyard, like, doing crazy dunks and stuff.
I think the invention of the internet has definitely changed the game for our
sport.
We are in an epic time where anyone can be famous.
All you need is an iPhone, cell phone, period.
Like, if you can film footage and upload it and it's funny, it's inventive, it's
disruptive,
like, you have an audience and people are going to follow.
So people that are going viral now and becoming superstars aren't even the most
particularly talented
people in society.
They just have a niche and they know how to stay consistent with it.
Well, sometimes it doesn't even make sense.
Like, something just catches.
Like, remember the dude that was on the skateboard doing Fleetwood Mac?
With the cranberry juice.
Yeah.
Like, just for whatever reason, everybody's like, that guy looks like he's
having fun.
Get this man a truck.
Get him more cranberry juice.
And now he's on.
I look, he's always on podcasts.
He's all over the place.
He's a man.
He bought a house.
He bought a car.
I mean, it's really incredible.
But that's the beauty of it.
Yeah.
That's the beauty of it is it gives people an opportunity.
There it is right there.
Yeah.
So, it was a professional wrestling league that they established.
And, you know, when people reference what we do, I call it Olympic wrestling.
Honestly, I don't even call it professional wrestling because that is kind of
an ode to the WWE and old-time WWF.
So, it's a unique thing that we had at this time.
This is Tommy Rollins, Daniel Cormier, both extremely competitive, both great
wrestlers, Oklahoma State, Ohio State.
This probably was around 04, 05-ish.
So, I was still in high school.
Real pro wrestling.
That's right.
So, they had different cities across the country that had their own teams.
It was almost like XFL-esque.
It kind of had that vibe.
So, it's Rulon Gardner.
Yeah, Rulon Gardner.
And who's the…
Tim Johnson.
In the middle, he works for the Big Ten Network and also for ESPN.
He does commentary for the NCAA Championships yearly.
And then the last guy is Nate Carr, who was a NCAA champ, world medalist.
And Rulon is another guy that made the transition.
He made the transition in MMA.
Did he?
I didn't know that.
Yeah, yeah.
He fought a bunch of times over in Japan.
And actually, I think what stopped him was he lost a toe in a frostbite
accident.
He's a former Cornhusker.
Is he?
So, we went to the same university.
And I got a chance to kind of spend some time with Rulon.
But he was out when I was kind of transitioning in.
And so, he's an interesting cat and he is one of those guys that's like shrouded
in this mystery.
But there's so many like epic stories about who he was, what he's done, how
much he's eaten.
He's a gorilla, dude.
Massive, massive man.
In real life, you see the size of that guy?
Massive man.
And then, obviously, him beating Corellon, which is pretty much considered the
most legendary victory in wrestling history.
That's a weird victory, right?
Because it's like Corellon, all he did was get Corellon to break his grip.
Yeah.
And it was a new rule, right?
The rules are evolving all the time in wrestling.
So, it's one of those rule changes that year in particular, which wasn't – it
didn't translate well to the average fan.
So, like the toughest thing about wrestling is that the rules change so often
that a nontraditional wrestling fan can't really keep up.
You watch a football game, you know, listen, you put the ball into the end zone,
it's six points, extra point, a point, field goal, three points, right?
Safety, two.
You watch basketball.
You know, if you're behind this arc, it's three points.
If you're within it, it's two points.
In wrestling, there's so many different subjective rule sets that you're like,
okay, well, if you unlock your hands here or if this guy gets pushed out of
bounds, it's a point.
But if you shove him out of bounds, it's no points.
If he's grounded, it's no points.
But if his knee is off the mat, then it's a point.
So, there's so many different, like, little nuances in the sport that make it
difficult to follow.
And even if you're within it, like, sometimes you have to address what the rule
set is before you even compete in a tournament.
There are times when we're meeting with administration and referees before we
compete at the Olympics World Championships just so we can stay current on the
rule set for that year.
Because it's always evolving.
Always evolving.
Is that something that plays in your head while you're actually competing?
Do you have to think, like, oh, wait a minute.
What's the rule for this place?
You know, that's a good question.
And I think in the heat of the moment, sometimes I imagine you've seen it a lot
in MMA, whether it's a guy, you know, hitting someone in the back of the head
or, you know, kicking them when they're down on a knee.
Like, all these little things that when you're in the battle and you're fired
up and you're trying to put this man out, like, you don't even think about the
rule set.
You just, you know, it has to be programmed.
I think experience just multiple times within this position, there's a certain
level of savviness and mental toughness that you have to have to get there.
They've had a hard time getting people to watch any kind of grappling that don't
grapple.
I think that's a problem with jiu-jitsu.
And one of the things they did with jiu-jitsu, they've come up with this new
thing called combat jiu-jitsu.
Eddie Bravo came up with it.
Okay.
It's basically jiu-jitsu with slapping.
It's kind of fucking crazy.
What?
Yeah, man.
I haven't seen it.
It's crazy.
Like in the face?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or elsewhere.
The thing is, like, in, you know, you can punch to the body and you slap to the
face.
The thing is, with jiu-jitsu positions, there's a lot of unrealistic positions
when it comes to MMA.
Yeah.
Where, like, guys are hanging on an ankle and the guy's right over them and you
can just start blasting them in the face.
There's a thing about, like, leg lockers are much more sophisticated now than
they were back in the day.
Sure.
Early in the UFC, you saw some cases where guys would go for leg locks.
And see, this is combat jiu-jitsu.
See, they can say...
Is that the...
Yeah.
Come on, bro.
Yeah.
Stop.
But it works.
This is like two siblings fighting over the last Rice Krispie Treat.
That's kind of a crazy...
Well, that's Wagner Rocha, who's fought MMA before and he's a beast.
Is he tough?
Yeah, he's a bad motherfucker.
He's a bad motherfucker.
And he wound up winning the...
I think he won the whole tournament because he's got so much experience with
strikes and jiu-jitsu as it is and he's an elite black belt.
See, that's the thing.
Like, would that really make you release your lock to have your arm potentially
broken is getting slapped in the face?
Like, if I have my hands locked and I'm preventing the arm bar, like, with a
slap in the face really make me like, ooh, I got to unlock, protect my face.
Bam, you're done.
It's a good question.
You never know where a person's brain is at, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, sometimes dudes just give their arm up.
Yeah.
There's situations where guys give their arm up.
And sometimes guys give their arm up in MMA, too.
When they're getting pounded on, you'll see guys reach up when someone's in the
mount and you know that they're giving their arm up.
That's right.
And then they get tapped.
And, you know, I've talked to guys who actually told me that they did it.
They just said, I just let him take my neck or I let him take my arm.
Right.
But Wagner stopped guys.
He stopped like really good guys.
He's got like a palm technique, too.
It's not just like an open-handed, wow.
Yeah.
He's just kind of going palm to the face.
Well, like I said, he's a real MMA fighter and he's, you know, he's an elite
MMA fighter.
Bro, but does this not look funny to you?
It does look a little funny.
It does look a little funny.
I respect these dudes.
This dude looks like an absolute monster.
But the slapping just reminds me of my sister and I back in middle school when
my mom and dad were at work and we had a snow day.
Yeah.
And we would be fighting over the last sip of the two-liter Pepsi in the fridge.
Yeah.
That was it right there.
That's us slapping each other.
If you use gloves, the thing about gloves is if they put the MMA gloves, gloves
change a lot of positions.
Like it's harder to get certain chokes because the gloves are thick and they
get in the way.
You can't get them under the chin as easy.
Yeah.
But that would probably be the most realistic.
But the reason why they use slaps, it actually, there's a history that goes
back to the original MMA, like when they were first starting to do MMA
tournaments.
Yeah.
One of the really early ones was called Pancrase.
It was in Japan.
And Bas Rutten was the master at Pancrase.
And what Bas Rutten would do, he's got crazy flexible hands and he's an elite
striker.
So he would pull his hands like, I don't know how the fuck he does it, but he
can get his hands way back.
He'd pull them back himself.
And he was basically throwing punches.
He was basically going boom, boom.
And inste