Name: Jordan Burroughs on Russia's Olympics Ban Due to State-Sponsored Doping
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the Joe Rogan experience I want to talk to you about this this when you're
talking about
authenticity I want to talk to you about have you ever seen the movie Icarus I
have dabbled
I'm honestly I don't want to watch it entirely because I would be so angry
afterwards it's
crazy because I've lost to Russians and some of the biggest matches of my
career and I know if
I saw that I would be so pissed off because they have changed my life in terms
of being an Olympic
champion being multiple winning more world titles more golds they've taken
money out of my pocket
notoriety and fame away from me and it has it'll really upset me so that's why
I've decided not to
it's a good thing to watch just to understand the sophistication just to be
upset let me explain to
people that don't know what we're talking about Icarus is a documentary by
Brian Fogel and Brian
was a cyclist and what he did was he decided to do a race and it was for the
documentary he did a race
completely natural recorded his results and then he hired this Russian
gentleman who was a part of
the Russian supposedly their anti-doping association which meant tell the anti
well he eventually as time
went on it got exposed but he just completely lucked into this this situation
where he hired this guy to
tell him what should I do his name was Grigory Richenkov thank you Jamie you're
the man he is a man
and Grigory told him exactly what he should take and when he should take it and
do this and do that and
this is how and then he was gonna do the same race again the following year but
juiced up and see what the difference in
performance was along the way the Sochi Olympics gets exposed that the Russians
had cheated and what they had done was it
was a super sophisticated scandal where they cut a hole in the wall and they
were like transferring the dirty piss through
one hole and and giving them the the clean sample to replace so they had found
that there was microscopic
scratches in these supposedly impossible to open bottles so the Russians had
figured out a way to open these bottles
those things and which have you seen the real ones have you ever no seen one of
the real bottles no I haven't seen him in the floor you cannot open them
yeah you can you will break them if you open them impossible they like have
this
sophisticated system in there where it's locked into the interlocks with the
glass
so once you close it as tightly as possible you cannot reopen it well they
somehow or another figured a workaround to get in there and open it and when
they did that they achieved an
unprecedented number of gold medals I mean they just they dominated the Sochi
Olympics in Russia I'm pissed bro
I'm hot because I'm hot and you we know it like we know it pull up the I don't
even want to get into
please get into it so pull up the I lost in the quarterfinals of the Olympic
Games in 2016 there's a guy named
Anwar Godoyev I just want you to see a picture of this guy you tell me
was this in Rio this was in Rio in Rio weren't a lot of the Russians they were
kicked out of
Rio because of Sochi they so they did uh the most Russian the most failed test
by Russia
in all Olympic sports first was track and field second was weightlifting third
was wrestling
wrestling was number three out of all Olympic sports however many programs
there are I'm sure
there are a ton of sports you've talked about it wrestling was third they pro
date
all these samples so they're getting popping guys from 08 2012 and they're
saying you know what
this guy was on a substance he was on you know some sort of performance
enhancing drug so we're going to
strip of him him of his medal and we're going to give the guy that took fifth
place the bronze medal
instead but at that point it's such a different experience you never got to
stand on the podium
you never got to travel the world and tell everyone about your medal you never
got to get that check
that was associated with whatever success that you had that sponsor taking away
someone's gold medal and
then giving it to you is not it's not the same it's not the same so it's it's
life-changing
experience that you miss out on because these guys are being unhealthy and just
straight up cheater so
like I let I there's a certain amount of disdain that I have for Russia I
respect them because they're
tremendous wrestlers not everyone cheats not everyone cheats but there are
those who do and it's well
known in the wrestling community and so at this point we have had to just
accept it and try to beat
them you just like you just got to beat them because it doesn't matter they are
so powerful the IOC is so
powerful that regardless of what they do Thomas Bach and the IOC will never
make a stance in which they
will completely ban Russia so they've banned Russia from the Olympic Games but
the athletes that test
cleanly can still compete under a different flag so ultimately it'd be like the
independent republic of
Russia that they can still compete in but the Russian flag will not be visible
in Tokyo or in Paris
in 2024 really cannot compete under the Russian national flag really done wow I
didn't know that
so it's they've been banned from the Olympic Games their governing body Russia
itself so all Russian
athletes will have to go through a testing process and then they will be able
to compete on as
independent athletes um under a different flag but not the Russian flag that's
been and that's how far
we've come bro and like I've seen so many athletes in track and field and
weightlifting and wrestling
that have seen other athletes get stripped and then have been given their
medals years later and all they get
is an Instagram post yeah it's not bro like you didn't get a chance to win it's
not cool it's not the same and it's
it's sad because it it it's the butterfly effect right because it messes up the
the ripple of the entire
bracket right so it's like you beat this guy and then all he loses here and
this guy goes here and this guy retires or he
changes weight classes like there's just so many things that just happen
because of this so it doesn't make
me happy it doesn't sit well with me but at this point like what do you do like
I mean you blow the
whistle enough times but you just got to do what you can to to avoid it and
that the only way to do it is
beat them I think in wrestling we have kind of like the biggest margin of error
because just because
someone's in great shape doesn't mean you can't beat them in wrestling there's
so much precision and
technical skill that's associated with it that you can still overcome that
steep hill but that's a
problem with the russians as well because they're very proficient they're
freaking very good they're
freaking so technical the wrestlers in these you know provinces and caucuses
are insane insane at the
sport like they from birth they are competing and training at the highest level
it's unlike like here
you got youth sports and you play games and you know i mean you play freeze tag
with your buddies at
practice and you do a couple of rope climbs you're done like these guys are
training like olympians at
eight years old they're doing black bridge kickovers and they're learning five
point throws and
they're just technically savvy at a much earlier age because they're bred for
this we think we have
it hard here like poverty here is nothing like poverty in other countries
especially you know in
like osetia or chechnya and all these places like it's just a different vibe
there so they they have
some amazing wrestlers an amazing motivation too with that poverty oh yeah it's
life-changing
they're tied into the government the u.s is the only country that their olympic
team is not government
funded the only country in the world where really our olympic team is funded
privately by donations
corporate sponsors that's it we're only country in the entire world everywhere
every country and the
world has the government funding the way that they operate and making sure that
they are competing at
a high level that's gotta be an incredible disgrace for russia to be eliminated
from the 2020 and 2024
olympics yeah well when you stand on top of the podium bro there's a certain
amount of pride that comes
with seeing your flag raised above all else that is a special moment and so for
them i don't know
because is it pride or is it is it financial incentive is it just being olympic
champion let me ask you
this what if a guy wins in 2008 okay and and and pops like they retroactively
test the samples yeah and
then he is he still capable of competing in the future or is he eliminated
forever well
that it depends i mean if if you pop from a few years ago then maybe i don't
know maybe they pro date
your suspension and say okay every let's say if you got suspended on that day
for two years post that
day all your results in that period of time will probably be eliminated but i
don't think they would
say argument but i've also heard the argument that if you're cheating you
should be eliminated for life
for life and that that's the only way to stop cheaters is that like you if you
want to stop someone
from doing something it's prestigious is the olympic gold medal that's a death
sentence i don't know i
know it's death sentence but i mean you you are you're cheating yeah you're
cheating it's like it's
a thing like the whole reason to win the olympics is for glory and for the
opportunity for sponsorships
for americans and but that's why other countries that's why they're doing it
man yeah like well it's
political glory and when russia had it in the sochi olympics yeah that was it's
not like a coincidence
they're following that medal count closely bro don't let anybody fool you that
medal count every
year at every olympic games is something that us in the village as athletes and
the presidents of each
particular respective country they're following that they want to win they want
to be the best of course
that's that's big to them so above all else some people are willing to take
some crazy chances to be
successful because they know the incentives that will follow them getting their
hand raised but you
know some people operate with character and they're like you know what win or
lose i'm not doing these
things i think though with russia and this was pretty clear because of this
they don't have a choice
they don't have a choice yeah they don't have a choice exactly what was this
wrestler that you
wanted to say what was the video it was uh anwar godoyev just pull up a photo
there's like a very
there's a photo of him he's like super vascular how about korelin i mean korelin's
one of the craziest
examples ever his parents were tiny little folks they were like five five and
he was built like a human
panther that's a big fella that's the guy that's achievable naturally with
superior genetics i mean it
is possible but if you look at any other look at all the other russians that i've
wrestled over the last
over the last decade none of them have that that level of stature but it's it
is whatever man like
we've exchanged matches he's beaten me i've beaten him um but he beat he beat
me when it counted at
the olympic games and so he does look pretty stacked he's uh he's tough man he's
a stud and this was in
rio this was in rio um this is is a game changer so and you are suspicious i'm
a little yeah yeah
i am i'm gonna be honest i'm a little suspicious i probably get a lot of heat
for it and russians
probably won't be happy with it but even if he didn't test positive then the
odds of him using
steroids up before then or using some sort of performing yeah whether it's epo
for training
to get to where he got to like physically yeah you know you keep a lot of the
gains no matter what
that's the the hard part about it is within that space if you don't have a
choice fine right you know
joe listen if you want to be on a podcast you have to right do this right if
the government tells you
hey you want to compete for the russian team you have to take or you can go be
a construction worker
for the rest of your life making minimum wage you're like i'll take that
podcast give me that right so
i think it's it's a very different vibe there like they don't have opportunity
outside like they can't
go to university they don't go to school russian wrestlers don't go to college
they don't go to
universities and get four-year degrees and get masters and go on to the
corporate world they don't do
that it's either you are an olympic champion or they will choose a job for you
and it's probably
not one that's super enticing or you will work in some sort of organized you
know syndicate yeah it's
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Jordan Burroughs on Russia's Olympics Ban Due to State-Sponsored Doping

the Joe Rogan experience I want to talk to you about this this when you're
talking about
authenticity I want to talk to you about have you ever seen the movie Icarus I
have dabbled
I'm honestly I don't want to watch it entirely because I would be so angry
afterwards it's
crazy because I've lost to Russians and some of the biggest matches of my
career and I know if
I saw that I would be so pissed off because they have changed my life in terms
of being an Olympic
champion being multiple winning more world titles more golds they've taken
money out of my pocket
notoriety and fame away from me and it has it'll really upset me so that's why
I've decided not to
it's a good thing to watch just to understand the sophistication just to be
upset let me explain to
people that don't know what we're talking about Icarus is a documentary by
Brian Fogel and Brian
was a cyclist and what he did was he decided to do a race and it was for the
documentary he did a race
completely natural recorded his results and then he hired this Russian
gentleman who was a part of
the Russian supposedly their anti-doping association which meant tell the anti
well he eventually as time
went on it got exposed but he just completely lucked into this this situation
where he hired this guy to
tell him what should I do his name was Grigory Richenkov thank you Jamie you're
the man he is a man
and Grigory told him exactly what he should take and when he should take it and
do this and do that and
this is how and then he was gonna do the same race again the following year but
juiced up and see what the difference in
performance was along the way the Sochi Olympics gets exposed that the Russians
had cheated and what they had done was it
was a super sophisticated scandal where they cut a hole in the wall and they
were like transferring the dirty piss through
one hole and and giving them the the clean sample to replace so they had found
that there was microscopic
scratches in these supposedly impossible to open bottles so the Russians had
figured out a way to open these bottles
those things and which have you seen the real ones have you ever no seen one of
the real bottles no I haven't seen him in the floor you cannot open them
yeah you can you will break them if you open them impossible they like have
this
sophisticated system in there where it's locked into the interlocks with the
glass
so once you close it as tightly as possible you cannot reopen it well they
somehow or another figured a workaround to get in there and open it and when
they did that they achieved an
unprecedented number of gold medals I mean they just they dominated the Sochi
Olympics in Russia I'm pissed bro
I'm hot because I'm hot and you we know it like we know it pull up the I don't
even want to get into
please get into it so pull up the I lost in the quarterfinals of the Olympic
Games in 2016 there's a guy named
Anwar Godoyev I just want you to see a picture of this guy you tell me
was this in Rio this was in Rio in Rio weren't a lot of the Russians they were
kicked out of
Rio because of Sochi they so they did uh the most Russian the most failed test
by Russia
in all Olympic sports first was track and field second was weightlifting third
was wrestling
wrestling was number three out of all Olympic sports however many programs
there are I'm sure
there are a ton of sports you've talked about it wrestling was third they pro
date
all these samples so they're getting popping guys from 08 2012 and they're
saying you know what
this guy was on a substance he was on you know some sort of performance
enhancing drug so we're going to
strip of him him of his medal and we're going to give the guy that took fifth
place the bronze medal
instead but at that point it's such a different experience you never got to
stand on the podium
you never got to travel the world and tell everyone about your medal you never
got to get that check
that was associated with whatever success that you had that sponsor taking away
someone's gold medal and
then giving it to you is not it's not the same it's not the same so it's it's
life-changing
experience that you miss out on because these guys are being unhealthy and just
straight up cheater so
like I let I there's a certain amount of disdain that I have for Russia I
respect them because they're
tremendous wrestlers not everyone cheats not everyone cheats but there are
those who do and it's well
known in the wrestling community and so at this point we have had to just
accept it and try to beat
them you just like you just got to beat them because it doesn't matter they are
so powerful the IOC is so
powerful that regardless of what they do Thomas Bach and the IOC will never
make a stance in which they
will completely ban Russia so they've banned Russia from the Olympic Games but
the athletes that test
cleanly can still compete under a different flag so ultimately it'd be like the
independent republic of
Russia that they can still compete in but the Russian flag will not be visible
in Tokyo or in Paris
in 2024 really cannot compete under the Russian national flag really done wow I
didn't know that
so it's they've been banned from the Olympic Games their governing body Russia
itself so all Russian
athletes will have to go through a testing process and then they will be able
to compete on as
independent athletes um under a different flag but not the Russian flag that's
been and that's how far
we've come bro and like I've seen so many athletes in track and field and
weightlifting and wrestling
that have seen other athletes get stripped and then have been given their
medals years later and all they get
is an Instagram post yeah it's not bro like you didn't get a chance to win it's
not cool it's not the same and it's
it's sad because it it it's the butterfly effect right because it messes up the
the ripple of the entire
bracket right so it's like you beat this guy and then all he loses here and
this guy goes here and this guy retires or he
changes weight classes like there's just so many things that just happen
because of this so it doesn't make
me happy it doesn't sit well with me but at this point like what do you do like
I mean you blow the
whistle enough times but you just got to do what you can to to avoid it and
that the only way to do it is
beat them I think in wrestling we have kind of like the biggest margin of error
because just because
someone's in great shape doesn't mean you can't beat them in wrestling there's
so much precision and
technical skill that's associated with it that you can still overcome that
steep hill but that's a
problem with the russians as well because they're very proficient they're
freaking very good they're
freaking so technical the wrestlers in these you know provinces and caucuses
are insane insane at the
sport like they from birth they are competing and training at the highest level
it's unlike like here
you got youth sports and you play games and you know i mean you play freeze tag
with your buddies at
practice and you do a couple of rope climbs you're done like these guys are
training like olympians at
eight years old they're doing black bridge kickovers and they're learning five
point throws and
they're just technically savvy at a much earlier age because they're bred for
this we think we have
it hard here like poverty here is nothing like poverty in other countries
especially you know in
like osetia or chechnya and all these places like it's just a different vibe
there so they they have
some amazing wrestlers an amazing motivation too with that poverty oh yeah it's
life-changing
they're tied into the government the u.s is the only country that their olympic
team is not government
funded the only country in the world where really our olympic team is funded
privately by donations
corporate sponsors that's it we're only country in the entire world everywhere
every country and the
world has the government funding the way that they operate and making sure that
they are competing at
a high level that's gotta be an incredible disgrace for russia to be eliminated
from the 2020 and 2024
olympics yeah well when you stand on top of the podium bro there's a certain
amount of pride that comes
with seeing your flag raised above all else that is a special moment and so for
them i don't know
because is it pride or is it is it financial incentive is it just being olympic
champion let me ask you
this what if a guy wins in 2008 okay and and and pops like they retroactively
test the samples yeah and
then he is he still capable of competing in the future or is he eliminated
forever well
that it depends i mean if if you pop from a few years ago then maybe i don't
know maybe they pro date
your suspension and say okay every let's say if you got suspended on that day
for two years post that
day all your results in that period of time will probably be eliminated but i
don't think they would
say argument but i've also heard the argument that if you're cheating you
should be eliminated for life
for life and that that's the only way to stop cheaters is that like you if you
want to stop someone
from doing something it's prestigious is the olympic gold medal that's a death
sentence i don't know i
know it's death sentence but i mean you you are you're cheating yeah you're
cheating it's like it's
a thing like the whole reason to win the olympics is for glory and for the
opportunity for sponsorships
for americans and but that's why other countries that's why they're doing it
man yeah like well it's
political glory and when russia had it in the sochi olympics yeah that was it's
not like a coincidence
they're following that medal count closely bro don't let anybody fool you that
medal count every
year at every olympic games is something that us in the village as athletes and
the presidents of each
particular respective country they're following that they want to win they want
to be the best of course
that's that's big to them so above all else some people are willing to take
some crazy chances to be
successful because they know the incentives that will follow them getting their
hand raised but you
know some people operate with character and they're like you know what win or
lose i'm not doing these
things i think though with russia and this was pretty clear because of this
they don't have a choice
they don't have a choice yeah they don't have a choice exactly what was this
wrestler that you
wanted to say what was the video it was uh anwar godoyev just pull up a photo
there's like a very
there's a photo of him he's like super vascular how about korelin i mean korelin's
one of the craziest
examples ever his parents were tiny little folks they were like five five and
he was built like a human
panther that's a big fella that's the guy that's achievable naturally with
superior genetics i mean it
is possible but if you look at any other look at all the other russians that i've
wrestled over the last
over the last decade none of them have that that level of stature but it's it
is whatever man like
we've exchanged matches he's beaten me i've beaten him um but he beat he beat
me when it counted at
the olympic games and so he does look pretty stacked he's uh he's tough man he's
a stud and this was in
rio this was in rio um this is is a game changer so and you are suspicious i'm
a little yeah yeah
i am i'm gonna be honest i'm a little suspicious i probably get a lot of heat
for it and russians
probably won't be happy with it but even if he didn't test positive then the
odds of him using
steroids up before then or using some sort of performing yeah whether it's epo
for training
to get to where he got to like physically yeah you know you keep a lot of the
gains no matter what
that's the the hard part about it is within that space if you don't have a
choice fine right you know
joe listen if you want to be on a podcast you have to right do this right if
the government tells you
hey you want to compete for the russian team you have to take or you c