Name: Icarus Filmmaker Bryan Fogel Gives Update on Whistleblower Grigory Rodchenkov
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the Joe Rogan experience you know I've gotten a bunch of messages since that
film came out from
other Olympic athletes and um it's been either a mix of like hey man I'm thank
you so much
or it's just like not mad at me just like what the fuck and and then you know
like like and I
was actually like uh invited um it was the uh uh the bobsled team uh that when
they actually
disqualified the Russian bobsled team and uh uh the U.S. bobsled team was then
going to get the
the third place medal they like invited me to the ceremony I didn't go but you
know it was uh
crazy yeah well Jordan said that the I guess in 2020 and 2024 the Russians can't
fly a flag
like they they cannot they can't be represented like they have to be individual
athletes from
Russia at at the Olympics in 2020 and uh Tokyo it's 2021 now yeah and then 2024
those Olympics
you can't have a Russian flag like you literally can't because of what happened
that you exposed
in your documentary well that's that's true however um if you if you followed
the the story
post Icarus with Rechenkov is um Russia was supposed to turn over this LIMS
data which was this laboratory
information management system data um in order to be reinstated into into world
sport
um that was part of the water requirements and um they never basically uh
turned it over so water
basically had to go after them go after them go after them they reinstate them
without turning over
the data then they turn over the data this is now uh December of 2019 uh or
January it was not that
a long ago about a year ago and when they turn over the data they had literally
manipulated all the data
and they had already got a copy of it from Rechenkov and another guy in the lab
and they literally put
notes into this LIMS data basically trying to frame Rechenkov for like money
laundering and taking bribes
and all this shit but WADA knew that this wasn't legitimate because they had
the real databases already
so they go and they say okay now Russia's banned for another four years
right wow and in the meantime Russia is putting out in the media that Rechenkov
has tried to commit
suicide because of like the exposure that he was apparently you know taking bribes
for money which
he wasn't Russia denies it again and then it goes to the court of arbitration
for sport this is
literally just like a couple months ago so they were supposed to be facing
another four year total ban
like that's what WADA was recommending like the entire federation is gone and
the court of arbitration
for sport which is corrupt as hell basically knocks it down to two years
instead of four years and then
basically does what they did in the 2018 Olympics which is okay any Russian
athlete who hasn't tested positive
can compete but they can't compete under their country's flag but if you saw Icarus
how would you
know whether or not they were positive or not because they were swapping out
the urine they were breaking
into the bottles so it's uh it's like yeah they're kind of banned and at the
same time they're all going to be
there and this was looked at like a huge win for Russia in the meantime Rechenkov
literally sits
in isolation in hiding under protection um but the guy just got asylum so he
got asylum here right he got
asylum you don't have to wear the headphones you don't want are they
uncomfortable no they just kind
of were like echoing a lot if there's a way to maybe take down the reverb on
them or something I like
him echoing really do you hear echo echo there's a volume control is that
better yeah I think that's
better um so Rechenkov has got asylum here in America yeah so he's got asylum
here in America
and that story is crazy too so you know uh in Icarus you see this scene where
basically like
I see him off uh at the airport and that was July of 2016 so we keep you know
making the film the film
comes out August 2017 and then five months later essentially because of the
film the IOC and their
reasoned decision uh comes forward and bans Russia and they cite Icarus uh as
one of their their main
reasons for doing that in the meantime Rechenkov is literally trying to get
political asylum and on the
day of his asylum hearing this was now a year and a half two years ago um I
need to get with his lawyers
to get the exact date Russia files drug trafficking charges against him in
Russia on the actual day that
he's supposed to go in for his asylum hearing so what this means is that Russia
had a mole within the U.S.
immigration system knowing that this was the day that Rechenkov was supposed to
get his as his asylum
and under international law anybody who's been charged with drug trafficking
right is basically
immediately ineligible for asylum so there's like a couple of like you know
things that you can be
charged for that basically makes it you can't get asylum so they charge him
with drug trafficking
and the court then gets kicked out and it takes him another year and a half two
years to get his
asylum and he finally just got his asylum like four four months ago something
like that wow
crazy and so but he's still in hiding right because he's got to worry about
being assassinated oh yeah
i mean he's he's still in hiding i mean i've i've been able to keep in touch
with a guy here and
there through like basically through the lawyers and then they'll arrange
through the security and then
we'll you know find an encrypted way to like have a conversation and and um
last time i spoke to him was
about two months ago and you know the conversation always goes like uh hey gregory
how are you and he
goes uh i'm alive and i could go wow that that's great you know but he goes i'm
like so how are you
doing he's like brian brian i i have to tell you he's like you know you saved
my life and uh uh i mean
it's uh it's it's it's heavy it's really heavy i mean we've we've tried for
three years now to try to
get him a dog because you know he loves dogs and he lives by himself and you
know he really doesn't
have communication with the outside world um my understanding is that he'll go
out you know for
like an hour a day for a walk with like protection around him um i don't know
where he lives i don't
i don't have his phone number um but his security you know doesn't want him to
have a dog because if he
has a dog that means he has to you know go outside and he's got to walk the dog
um he's not really able
to communicate with his family um hasn't seen his family for you know four
years now uh his wife and his
kids are back in russia um so i mean this has been a this has been a crazy cost
for for blowing the
whistle didn't they take his wife and his children didn't didn't they take
their fam their family home
away well after he uh after he got here and then all this started to unfold um
what i was told is that
they basically like froze the assets um of the family he had a dacha which is
like a a summer home
and apparently they uh uh they seized that and they seized bank accounts um and
they brought in the
family to interrogate him and they uh they took their their passports um from
what i've heard
um is that uh his kids have their passports back uh and the wife does too but
you know you can make
the logical conclusion that they're hoping that they travel because if they
then could travel and
they then go and see gregory right they're going to be able to find him um but
you know to my knowledge
um the family has been pretty much left alone it was it was bad for a little
bit um but over the last
few years um i've heard that you know that that they're okay and you know none
of the none of the family wants to
wants to to come because even if they do then that means that their lives are
now in isolation in hiding
so uh for them to come and basically you know visit gregory or to come and and
move you know to be with
him because he could technically get his wife here now that he has asylum but
then her life is going to
be in isolation and she's got family back in russia so it's it's uh it's
complicated
and this goes on for the rest of his life well i mean arguably for the rest of
his life i mean when
you look at you know uh michael sherwitz of the of the new york times did a
story i don't remember it's
probably about a year ago and he was looking at all these kind of like um
murders that that were
um tied to putin and russia and one of the stories that he came out with um was
basically this guy who
was living in the ukraine he was working for the gas company right and he uh i
can't remember if he it
was an attempted murder or or no the guy gets killed and they catch the guy the
assassin uh who goes to
kill him and they pulled him up on trial and when they catch this assassin
apparently he's got a a piece
of paper on him it's got a a list of names right of like basically like you
know like uh kill names
and this guy who they arrest and i know i'm botching the story a little bit and
you can go back it was uh
uh it was in you know part of the new york times daily and um and this guy that
they go and arrest
um basically goes yes i i've been hired i don't know why but you know my job is
basically to to kill
these people so they start going through the list and none of these people are
really known it turns out
that the guy that he had been hired to kill in the ukraine who was now living
like a normal life in
the ukraine he had apparently helped broker weapons deal to the chechens right
and this was like
whatever 15 years ago and here this guy's living this quiet life in the ukraine
working for the power
company and 12 years later they come and get him i mean you look at the case of
uh skirpel you know
the guy that they poisoned with novachok a few years in salisbury that was
another case where you
know the guy that was in england right yeah that was in england the guy had
been you know out of sight
out of mind for uh for for 15 years um you look at even the poisoning of alexander
lithenenko in 2006.
well at the time that they actually poisoned lithunenko with with polonium he
had already been living in
london for like seven or eight years he had he had fled to the uk that long ago
so the whole piece
that the michael schuritz had wrote uh and put forward in the new york times
was essentially that
you know they don't forget and there's just and there's just you know a list
and when they feel that
that they can strike uh uh they do catch new episodes of the joe rogan
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