Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1605 - Mark Smith
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1605 - Mark Smith' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2021-02-02. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1605 - Mark Smith

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The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
Mark, welcome.
Thank you.
Thanks for doing this, man.
Appreciate it.
Train to be here.
You have, first of all, as a referee, you have one of the most difficult jobs
in MMA,
and you're one of the rarest guys because no one complains about you.
Do you know that?
Like, I have heard zero complaints about you.
Maybe there's somebody out there that's complained.
I've never heard it, which is crazy.
It's weird.
You want your name to be called one time, and that's what the announcer says.
Referee in this fight is such and such.
You don't want any complaints other than that because we know it's a lifetime
opportunity
for these fighters.
We don't want to do anything negatively to affect them, so that's a good thing.
Well, it's such a difficult job because you have an impulse.
Like, you don't know when to stop.
Like, is it now?
Is he okay?
Is he going to be okay?
Like, sometimes fights get stopped early, and it is the worst feeling when a
guy is kind
of rocked, but then someone stops the fight, and then the guy complains, and
the crowd's
like, boo, and you're like, shit.
It's weird because our philosophy, and I primarily work with two of the
commissions, Nevada State
Athletic Commission in California, two of the top commissions in the world.
You don't want the fight to go too long to risk long-term injury for the
fighter.
So there's that philosophy of maybe stopping a fight one punch too early versus
one punch
too late.
Your goal is to stop it right on time, but it takes a lot of hard work to get
to that
point.
Depending upon the history of the fighter, you know, their ability to come back,
and
you know, you've got to make that subjective determination right away.
When is the time to stop that fight?
But man, it's the worst feeling in the world if you think you get to that point
and you let
go too long, or if you mistakenly stop it too early, oh, God, it's a hard
feeling.
Trust me.
It's such a difficult job.
It's so much harder than anything other than fighting.
Like, everybody else's, like, judging is kind of hard, but they kind of, they
can hide.
Like, you're on TV.
That's right.
You know, you're right there.
If it happens, and if it's you that makes a bad call, like, all the hate comes
your way.
And, you know, you've got to kind of stay away from, you know, some of the
social media
criticism, because you've got someone there that may not understand the detail.
You know, specifics of how we officiate and what we do.
And you're going to have critics.
Not tell everybody, going into a fight, fans are going to hate you or love you.
Half of the fans are counting for a fighter in the red corner.
Half are counting for fighters in the blue corner.
And depending upon the call you make, it may be the referee's fault.
It may be the judge's fault.
But your goal is to go in there and be as objective as possible, and fighter
safety is
always number one.
Yeah, and some guys just want to see people get beaten almost to death.
They don't want to be stopped.
Even if the guy is covering up in a turtle, they think they shouldn't stop the
fight.
If you stop a fight while somebody is standing up, you're just going to get
crucified for that.
Well, there was a call, like, with Max Holloway and Calvin Cater.
There was a lot of people thought you could have stopped that fight standing up.
But Herb was like, not quite.
And I think it was the right call.
I agree.
I think he gave them.
But it was touch and go.
You could tell he was looking at Calvin very carefully.
And there's that, you know, you obviously go to, there's no one better than
John McCarthy and Herb Dean.
Right.
They've been doing this for so long.
That's the gold standard.
So their eye of what they're looking at, and it comes down to intelligent
defense.
Yeah.
And that's not just holding your hands up.
That needs to translate into doing something offensive.
And if you could tell that a guy's listening to your verbal commands and he's
doing something to fight back, as long as he's showing some good cognitive
skills and showing something offensive where he's not looking at long-term
injury, there's a possibility of him letting that fight go.
But, man, if it's starting to stem on a 10-7 round where the fighters just get
destroyed and they're going to get hurt, now it's our responsibility to step in
with fighter safety.
Yeah, it's, like I said, it's a very difficult job.
But you do it well.
You do it excellent.
I try.
You're one of the best.
And what's crazy is I got a text from Pete Spratt, the OG.
Yes, that's my buddy.
And Pete Spratt let me know about your background.
Like, I did not know.
You were a fighter pilot.
I did not know that you – did you work at Area 51?
I cannot confirm or deny that.
Whoa.
I worked at Nellis Air Force Base, which is in that general vicinity.
So you can't talk about, like, experimental shit or anything like that?
You know what I did?
The first thing I did at Nellis was when I flew in the Thunderbirds.
Right.
And then I went away for a couple of assignments, and then when I came back, I
was an aggressor.
And if you remember in the movie Top Gun, you know, Viper and all those guys
that were in the camouflage planes, they acted as the enemy forces and trained
blue forces before they go off to combat.
That's what I did the second time around.
So the Nellis Ranges are probably up in that general vicinity.
But as far as being someone that worked at that – no, I worked at Nellis Air
Force Base.
Oh, okay.
We flew in that general area.
I don't believe you.
I think you're lying now.
Now I think you're holding back.
Did you feel it, Jamie?
All of a sudden, he's, like, smiling.
Listen to the answers to the questions.
You guys don't want guys in dark suits and shades to come in here and be like,
Mr. Smith, we need it.
I already talked to those dudes.
They're good guys.
They're just trying to protect us from the aliens.
You know, the crazy thing is in that area when people used to think they would
see UFOs and stuff like that.
You know, there's a book that came out a couple years ago called Red Eagles
that explained a lot of that stuff going on and what they thought were UFOs or,
you know, transportation planes that were landing at some of the bases and
stuff up there.
Yeah, a lot of people see wacky shit.
Yeah.
The first time I ever saw a stealth bomber, I was – I was filming Fear Factor
in Palmdale, which is near – was it Edwards?
Outright by Edwards, yeah.
Yeah.
And I saw a stealth bomber flying overhead.
I swear to God, I thought it was Darth Vader.
When you see one of those things in real life, you would think, especially if
you didn't know that the United States was developing one of those, like, when
they were first developing them and flying them before they made it public,
that thing looks like it's from another world.
So it's funny you say that.
So when I was on Thunderbirds, we do incentivize for, like, media personalities
and other people.
And I was out at our training area, which is over Death Valley.
And we're talking to the Navy controllers.
And they come over and say, you know, I was Thunderbird 2.
T-bird 2, I need you to fly straight and level for five minutes.
There's going to be aircraft off your nose.
I need you to, you know, diverge to the right and stay away from it.
And I'm like, what in the world is this?
So I threw my radar out there, which is snag anything out there.
And I'm getting these intermittent hits.
And I go, I don't see anything on the radar.
Next thing you know, I look up and I go, what the shit has happened?
And I look up and it's a B-2 that has, you know, an escort plane right next to
it that comes right next to it.
And I looked at it for the first time and I go, there's, there are aliens out
here.
This is some kind of spaceship.
Yeah, look at that thing.
Yeah.
I mean, look at that.
That does not look like it's from here.
Yep.
That absolutely looks like it's from another world.
Yeah.
Like all those, when people talk about seeing those triangular spacecrafts in
the sky, I mean, maybe some of them are from another planet.
Yeah.
So if you've never seen one of those, and like for me as a pilot perspective, I've
never seen anything like that.
You know, you hear about the F-117 from the Gulf War and then you see this big
thing coming towards you.
And that's what everybody always reports too.
A triangular object with like a light on each corner.
I mean, that is a stealth bomber.
Yep.
That's a crazy looking aircraft, man.
Yeah.
So I had somebody in my backseat that was like, oh my God, what is that?
What is that thing coming by?
I mean, if we thought that we were being invaded and then you saw things like
that flying overhead, that is what I would imagine they would be flying.
They came from another planet.
That thing is out at Whiteman Air Force Base.
You know, you see it flying out there all the time.
So there are folks here in a local area that will see it taking off.
Are there some new ones that they haven't released yet?
I don't know.
So I retired about eight years ago.
Right.
I heard a crazy story one day that someone was hunting up in Montana and saw
something similar to that that he had never seen before that like came out of
the ground in like a vertical type thing and then took off.
Which, you know, the F-35 and planes like that will take off some of them in a
vertical stance and then go forward.
But to see something that size and that scale do something like that, it kind
of makes me wish I was still in the military.
Just so you could be in the know?
That's right.
So which one can do that and take off?
The F-35?
Yeah.
So there are a couple of variants.
So the Air Force one does traditional rolling takeoff, but the Marine one, you
know, it's almost like a Harrier.
So the back engine will rotate so it'll take off vertical.
And then as it's going forward, the engine will rotate back the other way to
give it forward propulsion.
But man, just technology wise, the stuff that we're flying now.
So I will tell you this.
The first time I fought on the range against the F-22 Raptor and I fought
against everything in the world.
So out at Nellis with the aggressors, everybody comes there to train, to get
prepared for combat.
There is no better plane in the world than the F-22.
When that thing passed me and some of the stuff that I saw it could do, I go,
there's no better plane in the world.
So as far as air superiority, F-22 is at the top of the food chain.
What is the difference?
F-22 is primarily air superiority.
You know, so like air-to-air dogfighting, long range, short range missiles.
F-35 is, you know, command and control platform.
It still has weapons on it, can drop bombs, shoot missiles, et cetera.
But the role is a little bit different.
So yeah, that's F-22.
You go to an air show and see that thing, you're like, is that a plane or a
helicopter with some of the stuff that it does?
But fighting against that, you know, as a fighter pilot, your average fighter
pilot is the cockiest person that you will ever meet in the world.
Just like Top Gun, like the movie.
Exactly.
That's all real.
We're better than everybody.
That's our philosophy.
But it's very hotline.
You kind of have to have that philosophy, right?
I mean, look at that.
Look at that.
That's insane.
Oh, my God.
That's insane.
It just shoots straight up in the sky.
Yep.
Oh, my God.
I mean, it doesn't even look like a real plane.
That is a mean machine right there.
So I got friends that fly that plane, and, you know, you see it.
A, it's designed in combat.
You know, the United States is still going to be at the top of the food chain
as far as the personnel that we have,
the men and women that fly these airplanes, and then the equipment that we're
flying.
You're not going to find anything to match it.
That's incredible, that turn that it just made in the sky.
So is that what the maneuverability of it?
Is that what's superior?
What the