Name: JRE MMA Show #101 with Kevin Holland & Travis Lutter
Uploaded: 2021-02-24T00:00:00.000Z
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'JRE MMA Show #101 with Kevin Holland & Travis Lutter' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2021-02-24. Transcript available.

JRE MMA Show #101 with Kevin Holland & Travis Lutter

Okay, we're rolling.
Kevin, what's up?
What's up, Jeff?
Is that your phone?
Yep, I'm not sure.
Travis Luter.
Sorry.
So, first of all, welcome.
Thanks for doing this.
Appreciate it.
No, thank you.
And it's good to see you again, man.
I haven't seen you in forever.
Yeah, man, it's been a few years.
Try to keep this like a fist from your face.
Fist from my face, yeah.
We were talking right before about injuries.
You know, it's like I always like to talk to guys
who have been doing jiu-jitsu a long time
because they always have this laundry list of injuries.
And, you know, you were talking about neck fusions
and disc issues and, you know.
Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm just like everybody else.
We get, you know, everybody gets injured.
We all get old.
It just takes time.
But, you know, my opinion is if I'm going to teach jiu-jitsu,
I have to stay doing the art.
Yeah.
I think that when people just teach and they don't train,
they, you know, it's like it's a perishable.
Yes.
You know, it's like your skills are perishable.
And then it's also your thoughts.
It's like, yeah, you know, it's like, oh, if we just –
that's when you start seeing bullshit jiu-jitsu.
Yeah.
And so it's like if I'm going to teach, I have to train.
And it's like, you know, I love training.
I'd much prefer to, you know, I wish I could still fight, but I can't.
So it's like I – but I do train.
And it's like, you know, I have to.
Did you notice a difference in improving your skills when you start teaching?
Yeah, for sure.
I think that teaching definitely, you know, helps you improve
because I – the way that I think about it is is that, you know,
when you're teaching, you have to think about how he's looking at a problem.
So he's – you show him a move, and then you come back,
and he comes back with a question.
And it might be in a way that you've never thought about it before.
And then – so then you've got to break down how to answer that question for
them
so that it makes sense on their level, at their wavelength, you know.
So it's like that helps me because now I understand the position even
essentially better.
Yeah, I could do the position before,
but now it's like I've answered so many different questions over the years,
you know, that it really, really improves your jiu-jitsu.
Kevin, when you started training, did you start right away with Travis
or did you start somewhere else?
Like jiu-jitsu?
Yeah.
Yeah, I never did jiu-jitsu with anybody else but Travis.
Did you do martial arts before?
Yeah, I was a kung fu black belt when I got there.
Oh, that's right, because you call yourself a kung fu fighter when you enter
into the octagon.
Everybody's kung fu fighting.
What kind of kung fu was it?
So it was actually a mix.
It was a mix between Hawaiian Kenpo – no, my bad – American Kenpo and Kung
Fu Sun Tzu.
So Kung Fu Sun Tzu was originated in the States from Jimmy H. Wu bringing it
over,
and then Kenpo just has a thousand different stories, so I couldn't really keep
up with that.
So I was always more fascinated with the kung fu, San Tzu aspect of it.
So I actually went to Bill Lasseter's studio out in Rancho Cucamonga,
California,
and took a couple classes there.
So I was just mainly focused on the kung fu aspect of it.
San Tzu was always funner than the forms that we did for Kenpo.
I'm trying to remember what San Tzu is.
What's the fundamental difference between San Tzu and other kinds of kung fu?
So probably the other differences, I probably couldn't tell you,
but it's more – I guess you could say it's more common, you know,
and so it's more like – it's more brutal.
You know, we're not doing a bunch of pretty things.
Tai Chi, Tai Chi.
Yeah, yeah, nothing wrong with Tai Chi,
but we're not doing a bunch of breathing techniques and stuff like that.
It's more so like bash you over the head with this stick,
bash you over the head with my fist, you know.
Just – it's a mean kung fu style, you know,
and it worked well for me, especially in high school.
It was my type of thing, you know.
Yeah, you don't see a lot of – there's a lot of kung fu techniques
that I think probably would work in the –
like here's one that you see now that you didn't used to see before
people thought was kind of bullshit is that oblique kick.
Yeah.
Like the oblique kick is super legit, especially to the legs,
but do you ever see Lorenz Larkin use it?
He did it to me.
Dude.
Yeah, he sends it to the leg, and then he'll send it to like the chest area.
To the body, yeah.
It's like it throws you back.
It's really vicious.
He did it to Neil Magny, and I was like,
God damn, that's like a fucking sidekick, like the way he throws it.
And he throws it pretty quick too.
Yeah.
Yeah, and it's kind of hard to see it coming too
because it's not really telegraphed.
You don't know if he's throwing push kick.
He's coming with the –
You don't know if he's going to question work.
It's a sexy kick.
It's legit.
Yeah, and it wasn't around for a long time.
I think –
I want to say that the Winklejohn's influence with like Jon Jones,
like those guys were like one of the first guys to start throwing that kick
hard to the legs.
Yeah, Jon was stepping on the legs and keeping good distance with it.
You know, I never really seen Jon throw it to the body.
No.
It was just –
Lorenz is really the only person I've ever really seen throw it to the body
like that.
And I guess you could say it's kind of an oblique kick in Muay Thai sometimes
where they kind of try and fake the roundhouse and come with the push kick
instead.
But, you know, oblique kick straight up to the body.
I mean, Lorenz, Larkison.
But got it started for sure, for sure.
Yeah, I never even practiced it until I saw him do it to the body.
And then I went and did it on the bag because I was like, oh, shit.
You can get a lot of pop out of that.
Yeah.
You know, I never thought anybody would be throwing it to – there it is.
That's how he does it.
Yeah.
He's done that same thing to me.
It sucks.
Yeah, he's a super underrated guy.
Yeah.
He's tough.
Yeah, it's interesting now.
He's over at Bellator, and there's a lot of, like, real talent at Bellator now.
It's getting close.
Like, I always wondered, like, when's it going to be where Bellator is
essentially equal
to the UFC?
Like, how long is it going to take?
Never.
It's not –
I agree.
I don't think it will happen.
You say that.
What if Bellator just backs out, beep, beep, beep, that big Briggs truck.
And, like, Kevin, look what we got here.
Never.
Stacks and stacks of gold.
Nah.
No?
Never?
Nah.
No?
Nah.
Back in the day, I used to want to go to Bellator because they didn't have USADA.
And so I was like, I could smoke weed there.
But now you can smoke weed at the UFC.
Yeah, so UFC is way better.
Well, I think it's undeniable that the talent level in the UFC is higher.
But I think it's also undeniable that there's guys like Douglas Lima, like, Patricio
Pitbull.
There's super high-level guys.
Mousasi.
Yeah.
There's Vadim.
There's, like, real legit world-class fighters over there right now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I agree.
I mean, you know.
Yeah.
You know.
The person that gives them the biggest argument, I guess I'd say Michael Chandler,
coming over
and doing what he did.
You know.
I mean, that's a great example, right?
Yeah.
You know.
Very, very good example.
You know.
But you're not.
You know.
It's like there's great basketball players out there that never make it to the
NBA.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
There's people on the streets that can do fantastic things that never make it
to the greatest spot
ever.
The UFC is the greatest spot ever for a reason.
You know.
It's like you're probably going to perform differently than you would in Bellator
than you would in
the UFC.
My Bellator debut versus my UFC debut, you know, I finished that guy, what,
first round,
you know, triangle choke, rolling around like it wasn't nothing, doing things
that I could
have did, you know, to any local level guy.
But I couldn't do that in the UFC.
I guess you could say, like you said, higher level competition all the way
around.
So I just don't feel like Bellator adds up.
Well, I don't think it's as deep.
No.
Not as deep.
You got like a couple super legit guys.
Yeah.
Whereas like, look at the UFC's 155 pound division.
Like, Jesus Christ.
It's a shark tank.
It is filled with savages.
It is.
Pride had the best chance.
You know, it's like, you know, it's like there was a time where Pride was, you
know,
the talent level, I think, in Pride was actually better than what was in the
UFC at the same
time that, you know, mid-2000s, you know, right before they collapsed.
But the, you know, the UFC being first gives them definitely a heads up.
You know, it's like, it's kind of like the difference in between Coca-Cola and
Pepsi.
You know, it's like Pepsi's always, you know, trying to play catch up.
You know, it's like, and I feel like that's kind of what everybody's doing with
the UFC.
UFC has, you know, probably a better game plan, business plan than some of
these other organizations.
And then they got a huge bankroll too, you know.
Yeah.
It also has the name, right?
Right.
It's the UFC.
It's like, if someone comes along with the XFL, like, okay, but you want to
play in the
NFL, right?
Yeah.
Exactly.
You want to be the UFC champion.
Plus, like, I wonder what, like, the highest, like, the best person in Bellator,
like, as far
as fan-wise and everything like that, how many followers do they have, you know,
versus the
hottest guy in the UFC?
Well, let's think about it.
Who do you think is, like, the most popular guy in Bellator?
We could find that out right now.
Well, I would guess it's the, what's his name?
No, I think so.
Venom Page is pretty up, but Lehman knocked him out.
What's his name who's the heavyweight and the, and the.
Ryan Bader?
Yeah, Ryan Bader's probably up there, isn't he?
He's up there.
He's out of there.
He doesn't even count.
He just got KO'd.
Yeah.
He got his class in UFC, though.
I knew that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But that was at light heavyweight.
He's still the heavyweight champion.
Yeah, he's still the heavyweight champion.
Yeah, but I mean, if the light heavyweight knocked him out, he probably can
knock him
out at heavyweight, too.
That dude's a beast, that rushing dude.
Oh, yeah.
He's a fucking beast.
Yeah.
And Bader's, you know, how many fights has he had?
He's been around for a long time.
Bader's been around a long time.
A long time.
Yeah, a long time.
Time's a bitch.
It gets everybody.
Yes.
Yeah.
There's, there's no way around it.
You know, one thing I was going to say, John Jock Machado doesn't have any
injuries.
No, John, John looks good.
It's crazy.
I asked him.
He had like a little problem with his knee.
A little, I got a little meniscus tear, but he got some cortisone shot in it
and it's
fine.
No, no back problems, no nothing.
The, the difference with him is, is that, uh, you know, it's like there, there's
somebody
that trained all the time, you know, it's like, and it's always a really,
really good
shape.
You know, it's like back when he was winning Abu Dhabi and stuff like that.
I remember talking to him, you know, it's like, he's going in there and he's
killing,
you know, just trying to kill his cardio, killing his cardio, killing his
cardio.
You know, it's like he submitted his way through, uh, ADCC and what was it?
1999.
Uh, and then in 2000, and then 2000, he lost in the finals to, uh, Henzo, uh,
on decision.
Uh, I think, uh, um, and then he lost to Matt Serra, Matt Serra, but that was a
weird one.
That was a weird one.
You know, so like, you know, so that was the first match of the tournament and
Matt went
out there and pulled guard on him, right?
Like jump guard.
And then they fought like 90, you know, so in the first five minutes back then,
uh, and
I don't know what the rules are in ADCC now is that you could pull guard and it
wasn't
penalized.
Yeah, you didn't lose any points that year.
And, um, and then, so then, but then after the five minutes, if you pulled
guard, so they
ended u