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The Joe Rogan Experience
Floyd's undefeated too, but he's not the greatest boxer of all times, right?
It's arguable he is. It's arguable he is. I don't think so.
I feel like he is. He's my favorite.
He's been hit hard maybe four times his whole fucking career.
You stop and think about how many fights he fought against elite guys.
Not just great defense, like the best defense of all time.
You're talking about a guy who's fought everybody. He fought everybody. He
fought Canelo. He fought Pacquiao.
Maybe he didn't fight Pacquiao when he was in his prime.
And maybe fought Canelo when he was young and made him cut extra weight.
He did some smart shit, but at the end of the day...
That's part of being a fighter though, right?
Yeah, at the end of the day, the fucking guy's 50 and 50 or 49 and Conor McGregor.
That's what he is. That's what I say.
49 and Conor McGregor?
Yeah, because it's kind of weird.
It's kind of weird.
Somebody like Sugar Ray Robinson, you know, Sugar Ray Robinson.
Different.
Yeah, that's, you know, a different time, different time.
He's lost it, right?
Yeah, he lost 15.
I think Sugar Ray Robinson had somewhere in the neighborhood of 90 plus
victories before
his first defeat though.
What is like, how many...
His first defeat was the...
Wasn't it to Jack LaMotta?
Jake LaMotta.
Jake LaMotta?
How old was he?
What he got out of his prime?
Maybe.
No.
That might have been his first defeat.
He got knocked out.
No, I don't think he got knocked out.
He got knocked out.
Yeah.
No, by LaMotta?
I thought he got knocked out by Billy Conn.
No, Jack LaMotta knocked him out.
Jake.
It's Jake LaMotta.
I don't think he knocked him out.
Me and Names are terrible, so it's like...
I think he beat him in a decision in the first fight, and then Robinson beat
the shit
out of him in the second fight.
No, no, no.
Really?
Sugar Ray Robinson, they fought six times.
They fought six times, and Robinson won the...
I didn't know Jake ever knocked him out.
Robinson fought him, beat him the first time, and I think in the rematch is
when...
Jake LaMotta knocked him out?
Knocked him out.
I don't remember that at all.
And then in the sixth fight, he TKO'd Jake, but it was a standing TKO, and he
never got
knocked off of his feet.
Right.
And he was talking shit to, "Well, you stopped me, but you never put me down."
Never put me down.
Never put me down.
Yeah, that was the St. Valentine's Day mascot, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, when he went through the ropes, and he's like leaning, just getting...
Yeah, just getting pounded on the ropes.
Yeah, that guy had a ridiculous chin.
Crazy.
Eating shots like that from Sugar Ray Robinson?
Yeah.
Wasn't that at middleweight, too, and Robinson really started off at 147?
Yeah, I think it was lighter.
I think he started even lighter.
It was 40...
See if we can pull up his record.
Sugar Ray Robinson.
Sugar Ray Robinson's boxing record.
His record's like 200 and almost 200 fights.
Crazy, huh?
That's crazy.
Why can't we get that many fights?
Or 250, something like that?
How come we can't get that many fights in MMA?
Oh, it's more than that.
Well, in boxing, his 200th fight was 173-196 against Joey Archer.
That's his 200th fight.
Go back to his first loss, or go back to the Jake LaMotta fights.
You've got to go way back.
Stop.
Those are all win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win.
Jake LaMotta.
So he beat him at 36-0, and then he lost.
Uh, unanimous decision.
Yeah, I was right.
Ah, 40, what?
And then he beat him again.
Unanimous decision.
So he lost the unanimous decision to Jake LaMotta.
And then he beat everybody else up into a draw with Jose Barrosa, Basora,
rather.
So he made it to 40-0?
Yeah, I thought it was a lot more than that.
So his 40 first fight, he lost.
That was his first loss.
And it was a decision to Jake LaMotta.
I guess Floyd really is a GOAT.
I think he's the GOAT.
You know, it's a different era.
Here's the thing.
It's like, you know, when you look at Mike Tyson, when he was in...
We just had this conversation yesterday on the podcast.
But I think Mike Tyson, in his prime, when he knocked out Larry Holmes,
when he starched Marvis Frazier, like when he was just smashing everybody,
I think he had reached this level that you can only maintain for a certain
amount of years.
Yeah.
You know?
Like, I think the same thing you could say for Fedor when he was in his prime,
when he was running things in Pride.
Yeah.
There's a level that you could reach that you can only maintain for a certain
amount of years.
And it's real hard because I think, this is what I said yesterday,
I think if Muhammad Ali had been in the same era as Mike Tyson,
he would have been better because Mike Tyson was around.
You get better depending upon who's around you.
And when you are in an era, you're kind of defined by your competition.
Ali was defined by Joe Frazier and defined by George Foreman and all the guys
that he fought,
Ken Norton, all those guys that he fought in his era.
But it's a different era with Tyson.
It's a different era now.
But you're also forgetting that he beat Floyd Patterson.
You know, like all the fights that he had before he came back.
Sure.
You know, but those just weren't competitive.
Right.
You know, he was so fast.
He hit so hard.
You know, beating Sonny Liston.
You know, Sonny Liston's, you know.
He was a murderer back then.
Yeah.
He's a freaking killer.
Yeah.
It's like he destroyed Floyd Patterson.
Twice.
Yeah.
Twice in the first round, right?
He was, he couldn't, you couldn't get hit by him.
You just couldn't get hit by him.
Yeah.
He had giant fucking hands, you know, a guy that was close, close to the mafia,
you know,
he's like, and, uh, yep.
So he beat all those guys, you know, it's like, and, you know, it's like, so
maybe if he doesn't
have that three years off, you know, maybe, maybe, maybe, who knows, but he did,
but he did.
And it's also, he was a different cultural figure, right?
Because when you look at like his impact on society and civilization, he stood
for something.
Right.
He was a guy who was like, I'm not going to fight in this fucking war.
It doesn't make any sense.
They took his title away from him and the people loved him.
Yeah.
It was, it's a different, different scene.
Well, you had about 50% of the population hated him.
Right.
And then 50% of the population loved him and thought he was the greatest thing
ever.
Yeah.
And, you know, it's like, I ain't going over there to fight any Viet Cong.
They didn't do anything to me.
Yeah.
It's like, uh, you know, it, he's a very, very interesting, you know, figure.
And then you got somebody like, uh, you know, Joe Frazier, you know, uh, you
know,
very, very good fighter, you know, won the Olympic gold medal, was an alternate
going into the
Olympics and, uh, and the alternate, you know, I forget what happened over
there.
Uh, you know, he ended up not fighting.
Joe fought.
He won the Olympic gold medal.
They, they actually rematched, uh, as pros.
And then Joe stopped in my fourth or fifth round.
Wow.
Um, and, uh, you know, he was a beast, you know, and then George Foreman, you
know, it's like,
that's a guy that didn't ever put on a pair of gloves till he was, I think 19
years old.
Right.
That's crazy.
You know, it's like 19 years old.
Think about that.
There's just not that many guys that have, you know, it's never put on a pair
of gloves till
they're 19 years old and then get to that level.
Well, that's the Deontay Wilder story too.
You know, is it?
Yeah.
Deontay Wilder boxed for a year and a half before he won a bronze medal in the
Olympics.
Okay.
Uh, George Foreman, George Foreman won the gold medal in the seventies.
You know, when, when it's like, when it was even, I think harder, you know, to
win the gold
medal because, because of the Cubans and the Russians, you know, it's like they,
because they, they never
went pro and stuff like that.
You had that.
Right.
Um, to Phyllis Stevenson.
Right.
Um, and so it's like, I think it was the 76 Olympics that he won the gold medal.
And he was like 24 fights as an amateur.
That's all the fights he had never lost.
That's nuts.
And it's like, you know, and just crazy.
Uh, he fought just 20 times as an amateur before traveling to Mexico city for
the 1988,
1968 Olympic games.
Amazing.
You know, and never lost.
And then, so that is like, think about that.
You know, this guy's walking through guys like Joe Frazier and then he fights,
uh,
older Muhammad Ali and, you know, and then gets, you know, knocked out in the
eighth.
You know, it's like crazy.
You know, he believed that he was invincible.
You know, he, you know, arguably the hardest hitter ever.
Yeah.
You know, it's like, you know, what would have happened to Mike Tyson?
We might not have known who Mike Tyson was.
If he would have been around in, in those days, you know, it's like.
Who knows?
Yeah, exactly.
Or Mike Tyson would have smashed him.
Yeah.
You just don't know.
He was faster than everybody.
The thing about Mike Tyson as a, as a knockout fighter, if you watch like the
Marvis
Frazier fight or.
I don't think he was faster than Muhammad Ali though.
I don't think he was faster.
Um, well.
Well, how much feet were so fast?
Cause you got to think back to, you know, when he fought Sonny Liston or when
he fought
Floyd Patterson, you got to think of how his feet were then.
But the three years afterwards, I think he was faster than when they, when he
fought, like
when he came back.
Yeah.
You think that Mike Tyson was faster than that version of.
Yeah.
I agree with that.
Yeah.
I agree with that.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
But Ali was a different animal.
Like no one had been around before him.
There was a heavyweight that moved like that.
They didn't exist.
Well, Andy had probably the best chin ever.
Oh, an amazing chin.
He wasn't that heavy for a heavyweight though, right?
No, no, he fought.
The Olympic gold medal he won was cruiser, right?
Was it?
Yeah.
He didn't fight at heavyweight.
He moved up to heavyweight for when he turned pro.
Who was the English guy that knocked him down and they cut his gloves?
George, uh, George.
No.
Um, yeah, George.
Was it George?
Yeah, it was George.
The English guy?
George, um, I'm trying to remember.
He was a British gentleman who had a really good left hook and he caught him
with a left hook
and dropped him and had him in all kinds of trouble.
And, uh, then they, they, there was a tear on his glove, tear on his glove.
George starts with an H, if I remember right.
He had a small little rip and, and, uh, his corner, uh, you know, what's his
trainer's name?
Tore the glove a little bit.
They tried to find a pair of gloves and it halted the action of the fight for
about five minutes.
And it gave Muhammad Ali time to clear his head.
And then they resumed the fight.
They never found another pair of gloves.
They put on, on him in the middle of the rounds.
Think about this.
This is like, wasn't it Henry something?
Yeah.
Henry, Henry, you're right.
That's good cornering.
Henry Cooper.
There it is.
There it is.
That's good cornering.
Yeah, it was good cornering.
And it's like, and then he went out there and he stopped him on cuts.
Angelo Dundee.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He stopped him on cuts.
And I don't remember if it was the next round or the, uh, the following round.
Yeah.
You know, but he, he cut really, really easy.
They said they had, uh, his skin.
He'd just get bumped.
See if you can find that fight when Henry Cooper drops him, cause it's crazy.
He hurt him.
He's, but it's like, but he was, he, he looks dead.
His ass hits and he pops back up.
Yeah.
You know, it's like, but it's like when Joe Frazier, when Joe Frazier dropped
him, you know,
it's like his ass hit and he pops right back up.
It's crazy.
It looks dead.
His chin was incredible.
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Who is the Greatest Boxer of All Time?

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Floyd's undefeated too, but he's not the greatest boxer of all times, right?
It's arguable he is. It's arguable he is. I don't think so.
I feel like he is. He's my favorite.
He's been hit hard maybe four times his whole fucking career.
You stop and think about how many fights he fought against elite guys.
Not just great defense, like the best defense of all time.
You're talking about a guy who's fought everybody. He fought everybody. He
fought Canelo. He fought Pacquiao.
Maybe he didn't fight Pacquiao when he was in his prime.
And maybe fought Canelo when he was young and made him cut extra weight.
He did some smart shit, but at the end of the day...
That's part of being a fighter though, right?
Yeah, at the end of the day, the fucking guy's 50 and 50 or 49 and Conor McGregor.
That's what he is. That's what I say.
49 and Conor McGregor?
Yeah, because it's kind of weird.
It's kind of weird.
Somebody like Sugar Ray Robinson, you know, Sugar Ray Robinson.
Different.
Yeah, that's, you know, a different time, different time.
He's lost it, right?
Yeah, he lost 15.
I think Sugar Ray Robinson had somewhere in the neighborhood of 90 plus
victories before
his first defeat though.
What is like, how many...
His first defeat was the...
Wasn't it to Jack LaMotta?
Jake LaMotta.
Jake LaMotta?
How old was he?
What he got out of his prime?
Maybe.
No.
That might have been his first defeat.
He got knocked out.
No, I don't think he got knocked out.
He got knocked out.
Yeah.
No, by LaMotta?
I thought he got knocked out by Billy Conn.
No, Jack LaMotta knocked him out.
Jake.
It's Jake LaMotta.
I don't think he knocked him out.
Me and Names are terrible, so it's like...
I think he beat him in a decision in the first fight, and then Robinson beat
the shit
out of him in the second fight.
No, no, no.
Really?
Sugar Ray Robinson, they fought six times.
They fought six times, and Robinson won the...
I didn't know Jake ever knocked him out.
Robinson fought him, beat him the first time, and I think in the rematch is
when...
Jake LaMotta knocked him out?
Knocked him out.
I don't remember that at all.
And then in the sixth fight, he TKO'd Jake, but it was a standing TKO, and he
never got
knocked off of his feet.
Right.
And he was talking shit to, "Well, you stopped me, but you never put me down."
Never put me down.
Never put me down.
Yeah, that was the St. Valentine's Day mascot, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, when he went through the ropes, and he's like leaning, just getting...
Yeah, just getting pounded on the ropes.
Yeah, that guy had a ridiculous chin.
Crazy.
Eating shots like that from Sugar Ray Robinson?
Yeah.
Wasn't that at middleweight, too, and Robinson really started off at 147?
Yeah, I think it was lighter.
I think he started even lighter.
It was 40...
See if we can pull up his record.
Sugar Ray Robinson.
Sugar Ray Robinson's boxing record.
His record's like 200 and almost 200 fights.
Crazy, huh?
That's crazy.
Why can't we get that many fights?
Or 250, something like that?
How come we can't get that many fights in MMA?
Oh, it's more than that.
Well, in boxing, his 200th fight was 173-196 against Joey Archer.
That's his 200th fight.
Go back to his first loss, or go back to the Jake LaMotta fights.
You've got to go way back.
Stop.
Those are all win, win, win, win, win, win, win, win.
Jake LaMotta.
So he beat him at 36-0, and then he lost.
Uh, unanimous decision.
Yeah, I was right.
Ah, 40, what?
And then he beat him again.
Unanimous decision.
So he lost the unanimous decision to Jake LaMotta.
And then he beat everybody else up into a draw with Jose Barrosa, Basora,
rather.
So he made it to 40-0?
Yeah, I thought it was a lot more than that.
So his 40 first fight, he lost.
That was his first loss.
And it was a decision to Jake LaMotta.
I guess Floyd really is a GOAT.
I think he's the GOAT.
You know, it's a different era.
Here's the thing.
It's like, you know, when you look at Mike Tyson, when he was in...
We just had this conversation yesterday on the podcast.
But I think Mike Tyson, in his prime, when he knocked out Larry Holmes,
when he starched Marvis Frazier, like when he was just smashing everybody,
I think he had reached this level that you can only maintain for a certain
amount of years.
Yeah.
You know?
Like, I think the same thing you could say for Fedor when he was in his prime,
when he was running things in Pride.
Yeah.
There's a level that you could reach that you can only maintain for a certain
amount of years.
And it's real hard because I think, this is what I said yesterday,
I think if Muhammad Ali had been in the same era as Mike Tyson,
he would have been better because Mike Tyson was around.
You get better depending upon who's around you.
And when you are in an era, you're kind of defined by your competition.
Ali was defined by Joe Frazier and defined by George Foreman and all the guys
that he fought,
Ken Norton, all those guys that he fought in his era.
But it's a different era with Tyson.
It's a different era now.
But you're also forgetting that he beat Floyd Patterson.
You know, like all the fights that he had before he came back.
Sure.
You know, but those just weren't competitive.
Right.
You know, he was so fast.
He hit so hard.
You know, beating Sonny Liston.
You know, Sonny Liston's, you know.
He was a murderer back then.
Yeah.
He's a freaking killer.
Yeah.
It's like he destroyed Floyd Patterson.
Twice.
Yeah.
Twice in the first round, right?
He was, he couldn't, you couldn't get hit by him.
You just couldn't get hit by him.
Yeah.
He had giant fucking hands, you know, a guy that was close, close to the mafia,
you know,
he's like, and, uh, yep.
So he beat all those guys, you know, it's like, and, you know, it's like, so
maybe if he doesn't
have that three years off, you know, maybe, maybe, maybe, who knows, but he did,
but he did.
And it's also, he was a different cultural figure, right?
Because when you look at like his impact on society and civilization, he stood
for something.
Right.
He was a guy who was like, I'm not going to fight in this fucking war.
It doesn't make any sense.
They took his title away from him and the people loved him.
Yeah.
It was, it's a different, different scene.
Well, you had about 50% of the population hated him.
Right.
And then 50% of the population loved him and thought he was the greatest thing
ever.
Yeah.
And, you know, it's like, I ain't going over there to fight any Viet Cong.
They didn't do anything to me.
Yeah.
It's like, uh, you know, it, he's a very, very interesting, you know, figure.
And then you got somebody like, uh, you know, Joe Frazier, you know, uh, you
know,
very, very good fighter, you know, won the Olympic gold medal, was an alternate
going into the
Olympics and, uh, and the alternate, you know, I forget what happened over
there.
Uh, you know, he ended up not fighting.
Joe fought.
He won the Olympic gold medal.
They, they actually rematched, uh, as pros.
And then Joe stopped in my fourth or fifth round.
Wow.
Um, and, uh, you know, he was a beast, you know, and then George Foreman, you
know, it's like,
that's a guy that didn't ever put on a pair of gloves till he was, I think 19
years old.
Right.
That's crazy.
You know, it's like 19 years old.
Think about that.
There's just not that many guys that have, you know, it's never put on a pair
of gloves till
they're 19 years old and then get to that level.
Well, that's the Deontay Wilder story too.
You know, is it?
Yeah.
Deontay Wilder boxed for a year and a half before he won a bronze medal in the
Olympics.
Okay.
Uh, George Foreman, George Foreman won the gold medal in the seventies.
You know, when, when it's like, when it was even, I think harder, you know, to
win the gold
medal because, because of the Cubans and the Russians, you know, it's like they,
because they, they never
went pro and stuff like that.
You had that.
Right.
Um, to Phyllis Stevenson.
Right.
Um, and so it's like, I think it was the 76 Olympics that he won the gold medal.
And he was like 24 fights as an amateur.
That's all the fights he had never lost.
That's nuts.
And it's like, you know, and just crazy.
Uh, he fought just 20 times as an amateur before traveling to Mexico city for
the 1988,
1968 Olympic games.
Amazing.
You know, and never lost.
And then, so that is like, think about that.
You know, this guy's walking through guys like Joe Frazier and then he fights,
uh,
older Muhammad Ali and, you know, and then gets, you know, knocked out in the
eighth.
You know, it's like crazy.
You know, he believed that he was invincible.
You know, he, you know, arguably the hardest hitter ever.
Yeah.
You know, it's like, you know, what would have happened to Mike Tyson?
We might not have known who Mike Tyson was.
If he would have been around in, in those days, you know, it's like.
Who knows?
Yeah, exactly.
Or Mike Tyson would have smashed him.
Yeah.
You just don't know.
He was faster than everybody.
The thing about Mike Tyson as a, as a knockout fighter, if you watch like the
Marvis
Frazier fight or.
I don't think he was faster than Muhammad Ali though.
I don't think he was faster.
Um, well.
Well, how much feet were so fast?
Cause you got to think back to, you know, when he fought Sonny Liston or when
he fought
Floyd Patterson, you got to think of how his feet were then.
But the three years afterwards, I think he was faster than when they, when he
fought, like
when he came back.
Yeah.
You think that Mike Tyson was faster than that version of.
Yeah.
I agree with that.
Yeah.
I agree with that.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
But Ali was a different animal.
Like no one had been around before him.
There was a heavyweight that moved like that.
They didn't exist.
Well, Andy had probably the best chin ever.
Oh, an amazing chin.
He wasn't that heavy for a heavyweight though, right?
No, no, he fought.
The Olympic gold medal he won was cruiser, right?
Was it?
Yeah.
He didn't fight at heavyweight.
He moved up to heavyweight for when he turned pro.
Who was the English guy that knocked him down and they cut his gloves?
George, uh, George.
No.
Um, yeah, George.
Was it George?
Yeah, it was George.
The English guy?
George, um, I'm trying to remember.
He was a British gentleman who had a really good left hook and he caught him
with a left hook
and dropped him and had him in all kinds of trouble.
And, uh, then they, they, there was a tear on his glove, tear on his glove.
George starts with an H, if I remember right.
He had a small little rip and, and, uh, his corner, uh, you know, what's his
trainer's name?
Tore the glove a little bit.
They tried to find a pair of gloves and it halted the action of the fight for
about five minutes.
And it gave Muhammad Ali time to clear his head.
And then they resumed the fight.
They never found another pair of gloves.
They put on, on him in the middle of the rounds.
Think about this.
This is like, wasn't it Henry something?
Yeah.
Henry, Henry, you're right.
That's good cornering.
Henry Cooper.
There it is.
There it is.
That's good cornering.
Yeah, it was good cornering.
And it's like, and then he went out there and he stopped him on cuts.
Angelo Dundee.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He stopped him on cuts.
And I don't remember if it was the next round or the, uh, the following round.
Yeah.
You know, but he, he cut really, really easy.
They said they had, uh, his skin.
He'd just get bumped.
See if you can find that fight when Henry Cooper drops him, cause it's crazy.
He hurt him.
He's, but it's like, but he was, he, he looks dead.
His ass hits and he pops back up.
Yeah.
You know, it's like, but it's like when Joe Frazier, when Joe Frazier dropped
him, you know,
it's like his ass hit and he pops right back up.
It's crazy.
It looks dead.
His chin was incredible.
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