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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'The Cruelty of Keeping Exotic Animals in Captivity' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2021-05-19. Transcript available.

- The Joe Rogan Experience.
- To me it's all about body language,
and all about, sort of, and this is why I'm so into
horses and dog training and stuff like that,
and horse body language.
- Didn't you try to save some bears while you were out here?
- I did.
- I got an angry text from Whitney about bears.
- I love you, there I--
- She's saving bears out here, she's mad at people.
I'm like, whoa, are you having fights already?
- I fucking love Texas, but when you have Texas
and West Virginia, you're ready to fight anyone at any time,
and there are a lot, there's an incredible amount
of animal cruelty in Texas that, to me,
is against what Texas is all about.
Like, putting bears in boxes, what was it called,
the Central Capital, it was called the Capital Texas Zoo,
it's right fucking out here, there's bears in cages,
the ones that the Chinese use to do the gallbladders,
take them, you know, like the gallbladder, some medicine,
and they're in these cages and there's no water.
- What, you mean black bears, is that what you're saying?
- I'll show you.
- It must be a black bear.
- Yes, I got the name of--
- Do you know that gallbladder thing is like,
it's so bad that they, you're not allowed to,
even if you legally hunt a bear,
you can't open up its organ cavity,
because people are worried that people are shooting bears
just for their gallbladders in British Columbia?
- That's right, the Asiatic black bear,
and this bullshit Capital of Texas Zoo, which is trying to say,
it's like rescuing them, is all about the Asiatic black bear,
it's a species whose population is rapidly decreasing due to
illegal hunting for its gallbladder, which is used in Asian folk
medicine, and then you're gonna fucking put it in a box and not
give it any water, that pisses me off and it's a USDA violation.
So I go around to these bullshits.
- Are you calling these people out publicly
right now on this podcast?
- I guess I just did, didn't I?
These motherfuckers, here's what, you want to know why--
- This is a real problem for them, you understand that, right?
You just opened hell's door.
- It's a real problem for me, 'cause these motherfuckers have
guns at all times, and it is a really dangerous thing for me
to be into, remember I did it with the giraffe and those
fucking crooks in LA, and most of it I do privately.
Yeah, Malibu fucking, what is it, safari.
- So this thing out here, how did you find out about this?
- I found out about it because I'm in a pretty hardcore group
of people that try to--
- Animal rescue people?
- They try to shut down illegal behavior, zoos,
roadside zoos, because, and I know, it's like,
Whitney's crazy, she loves animals, like, who gives a shit?
To me, once I started learning the statistics on,
whenever there's exotic animal trafficking,
it's usually accompanied by human trafficking,
it's all the same people.
So when you see a lion running free in Houston,
or private ownership of lions, tigers, bears,
any apex predator, there's usually, you know,
teenagers from another country in the same truck,
so it's like dogfighting, it's like, people are like,
oh, it's just dogfighting, who cares?
That's what's in the front yard, but if you see that,
you see that in the front yard, go into the fuckin' basement,
and see what else is fuckin' goin' on.
So, that's what, that's what the top three most profitable
black market businesses, right?
It's arms, drugs, and then human/animal trafficking.
So it's the same people.
No one traffics jaguars and doesn't throw in a couple people.
- You know what's weird?
Let me pause and think about this for a second.
It's weird how we have associations with animals
where there's acceptable torture and death,
and some where it's not.
And with exotic animals, we're especially sensitive.
Especially sensitive to the idea of killing bears,
or putting bears in cages.
But if you found out that chickens are in a cage right next door,
you're like, well, that's a chicken factory.
- They're making McNuggets.
They gotta do what they gotta do.
- And I think I, and they're delicious.
Put some honey on that shit.
- But you know what I'm sayin'?
- And I think I know, I think I--
- What is that?
- I can say, well, my, 'cause when you see an apex predator,
a lion, tiger, or bear, that's so incredibly strong,
you know how much abuse had to go into containing that animal,
'cause they're so incredibly strong.
You know, Michael Jackson, I mean, the fuckin' asshole in LA,
Bob Dunn, I'm gonna say it, who puts chimpanzees in cages,
so that they don't build any muscle.
If you're seeing a chimpanzee, a lion, tiger, or bear in a cage,
they were, they had to, they gotta be on fentanyl,
they're on all these drugs.
Natasha Daly wrote a really amazing--
- They're on fentanyl?
- Oh, yeah, the ones in Thailand--
- They put chimps on fentanyl?
- Oh, they put 'em in cages like this,
so that they don't grow any muscle,
and any chimp, like Michael Jackson's chimps,
there were three of each, because when they--
- So they all have the same name?
- When they, well, there's Chubbs,
yes, there was like a Chubbs one, a Chubbs two,
and then a Bubbles one and two,
'cause after a year, you can't hold a chimp in a tuxedo,
it's gonna rip your face off.
- Right, just beat your ass.
- Yes, so after about a year,
they send it off to experiments,
there's one actually in a zoo in Armadillo, Texas,
one of the Chubbs,
I know where all Michael Jackson's fuckin' animals are,
like that's, that's my fuckin' hunting.
- What, really? - Yes, yeah.
- You know where all of Michael Jackson's animals are?
- Like all of them, I mean,
a lot of them are sold for experiments.
- Oh, Jesus, no, really? - The elephants
are kind of spread out, yeah, one of them died.
- They were sold for experiments?
- The chimps were, 'cause after--
- Like lipstick, what kind of experiments?
- Yeah, I mean, Chimp Experiments, Space Odyssey sequel, yeah.
- Space Odyssey sequel!
- But, yeah, I mean, it's a big,
a lot of colleges and universities,
the ones that are fuckin' waitin' around
for their student loans, imprisoning people financially,
do a lot of experiments on college campuses.
- Oh my god. - So I don't do a lot
of this publicly, 'cause I'll get murdered.
- You imagine you go from livin' in the fuckin' castle,
livin' in the Michael Jackson Neverland castle,
to gettin' experiments done on you,
and you don't understand English, and you're like,
"What is happening?" - Can you imagine--
- I had the life, I had the fuckin' life,
now I'm strapped in and they're experimenting on me.
- I went from being fucked by Michael Jackson,
to being probed, you know, in Texas.
- What the fuck? - I don't, it was,
but chimps, you know, I mean, they get so fuckin' strong,
they have to keep 'em in cages so their muscles don't build,
they don't feed 'em any protein,
and then they inject 'em with, you know, I mean,
there's one university which I'm not gonna say right now,
'cause I'm, like, gettin' all my fuckin' ducks in a row,
but they put Botox in their muscles
so they don't develop any muscles.
- Did I ever tell you about the time
I went to a tiger place in Thailand?
- Brutal.
- Did I tell you about this? - No.
- I did, we did a bunch of animal things,
me and my family in Thailand.
We did one of 'em that was really cool.
We hung around with elephants, and you fed 'em,
and I had it on my Instagram page,
you give 'em sugar cane, and you wash 'em, and then--
- As long as you're not riding 'em, and--
- No, you do ride 'em, but they want you to ride 'em.
They, like, let you.
You weigh as much as one of those stupid hats
with cigarettes in it.
- Totally. - That's what you weigh
to an elephant, but I didn't like it.
- Yeah, what they have to do to get them that compliant
is pretty brutal, you know?
- Not in this place.
- Okay, yeah, it's a-- - In this place,
first of all, these animals are completely wide open,
and they're free-ranging.
- Sheldrick Trust does a great job, too.
If they raise them from being babies--
- They do that, but they also take animals from circuses,
and reintroduce 'em to the wild.
'Cause while you're walking with these elephants,
they just grab a tree and start eating it.
Like, they can do whatever the fuck they want,
and they're so not intimidated by you in any way.
And the relationship that the trainers had
with the elephants was love.
It was all petting and giving them sugar cane.
They gave 'em food, and they were always washing them,
and when you have this, they did it very smartly.
- 'Cause a lot of these elephants,
if you reintroduce 'em to the wild, they'll die right away,
and the other elephants will actually kill 'em.
But this place in Thailand, they have successfully reintroduced
many to the wild.
And one of the things that they did is,
you don't just ride the elephant.
You have a relationship with it.
- Yes, that's it.
- So they bring you over, like,
this is the elephant that you're gonna have
a relationship with, and you're gonna feed him sugar cane
and wash him.
- That makes you so happy.
- So I'm handing them sugar cane.
They take it gently with their trunks.
They're sweet, sweet animals.
- Well, that's amazing.
Do you remember the name of this place?
'Cause I always love to promote the good places.
- I do not remember, but we stayed in Chiang Mai,
and it was an hour, maybe, outside of that.
Not that far away.
But the way they did it was, it was all about,
like, what you paid for, for that experience,
would go towards funds to help these animals
and reintroduce 'em to the wild,
and also get them from circuses,
and rescue them from some other places.
I didn't like the riding part.
I would say, but everybody else wanted to do it,
but my thought was like, I just want,
I like to feed you and I'll wash you.
I wanna be your friend.
I don't need to get on top and be like,
"Wiii, I'm riding you."
- That's a language elephants understand, you know,
and I think that the really shitty places,
which is most of them, give the good ones a bad name,
which sucks.
I went to one.
I went to Koh Samui, and I don't remember in Thailand
where I went to one, and there's, you know,
you go there, and everyone's riding them,
and then you look down, and there's just chains
between their feet, and I just, it killed me,
it crushed me, 'cause I thought I was going
to this amazing sanctuary, 'cause anyone can put sanctuary
in the front of their fucking thing,
but I think, I've heard you talk so much about,
you know, captivity of, you know, dolphins,
and it's just when you see that,
and when you're like, this is just intolerable,
like, these animals are not designed to be in prison.
It's prison.
You're watching this incredible thing be in prison,
and you know that this motherfucker,
the second it gets out, could kill everyone
within a 50-mile radius.
The fact that they're in this cage,
what had to happen in order to confine them that way?
I mean, what happened for someone to put you in a cage?
They'd have to fucking shoot you with darts.
They, you know, so, it's so heartbreaking
to see powerful animals be reduced
to a fucking zoo exhibition.
- A shelf trinket. - It's sick.
- Yeah. - And look, a lot of animal people
are fucking crazy as shit, and, you know, as we say,
animal people aren't always people people,
because a lot of people that are real big in animal rescue
have a lot of childhood trauma.
They were neglected, they were abused as kids,
and they see something voiceless, and that can't, you know,
send emails or make phone calls being abused,
and they go fucking nuts.
So I don't fuck with a lot of animal rescue people,
because they're not rational.
My thing is, like, let's focus on changing a law
instead of trying to get every fucking elephant
out of every zoo.
But, you know, I think that, you know, someone like you,
I think we're similar in that we see how fucked up it is
to have an apex predator in a box.
- Yeah, we went to the elephant thing,
and the elephant thing was, it actually felt good,
because these elephants, they came over the top of the hill.
They just showed up out of nowhere.
There's no fences. - Awesome.
- They came over the top of the hill,
and they come when they know that they're gonna bring out
the sugar cane, and they're gonna meet these people.
- And they're choosing to do it.
- And the way they meet you, they just walk right up to you.
I'm telling you, it's wild.
Like, they just, they bump into you,
like, they bring their face to you, and you pet them,
and you go, "Hello."
- 'Cause they love being groomed. - Nice to meet you.
Yeah, they like being pet.
Are they the smartest animal after chimpanzee?
I believe.
- Well, they can paint.
They might be smarter than chimps.
You know, like, they can paint things.
They can't solve complex puzzles like chimps do.
Chimps can spell things, chimps can do a lot of stuff,
but they remember their loved ones, their family members,
for like, decades and decades. - They have funerals, yeah.
- It kills me.
- They've reintroduced ones after like, you know,
more than 10 years apart, and they recognize each other
instantly, and they run and hug,
and they're rubbing trunks and everything.
It's wild. - They're dinosaurs.
- Well, there's something interesting.
- I mean, they're the closest we have to fucking dinosaurs,
and you look at them, and you're, you know,
and there's this place, Pawsark.
- I don't think they've been around that long.
- Interesting.
I mean, but they feel like the way they move.
Like, it is like Jurassic Park.
- They're special.
There's something special.
- It's Snuffleupagus.
I mean, it's also like, you know.
- Just the fact that something exists like that.
That's so goddamn big, and yet it'll like, if you're nice to it.
- Gentle.
- Like, here's the thing.
It's like, you really can't keep a fucking tiger as a pet in an open area.
But you can in Thailand with these elephants.
Like, the relationship they have with people is very different.
Like, that thing just walks up to you.
You can pet it.
There is not a fucking chance in hell you could do that with a tiger.
There's not a chance in hell you would let one of your friends or your children
get on
a tiger.
- I mean, and if they do, anyone touching any apex predator, that's abuse.
They have to take the cub from the mom right away.
They have to dart the mom with the tranquilizer.
Because when everyone's like, I'm holding a bear cub.
I'm holding a tiger cub.
It's like, you think that the mom just fucking willingly gave that shit up?
No.
And then it's not getting any of the breast milk.
So they have all these autoimmune issues and their spines don't develop
properly.
So the place that I work with in Alpine, it's all these bears that have been in
cub petting
as adults and they can't really walk well.
They're all fucked up.
It's, once you see the aftermath of what happens with any kind of tiger bear, I
mean, they have
about six months and they just send them off to either get killed or to get can
hunting
or whatever that stuff is, where they just put-
- They hunt tigers?
- They put a tiger or a lion that's never been in the wild, that's only been
held by humans.
- They definitely do that with lions in Africa.
- In these canned hunting facilities and the lion sees a person who's like, hey,
what's
up?
And then someone shoots it.
- Exactly.
- And you're like, well, that's not hunting.
That's not, that's fucking fish in a barrel.
- Not only that, the lion doesn't go very far from where they release it
because it doesn't
have a territory.
So it doesn't know where to go.
- But it's a human and it's like, oh, I'm about to get a Big Mac from this
human.
- I don't think they think that way.
- Or sorry, they go, that's a Big Mac.
- I think immediately if they see a person, they want to kill it.
But the point is, it's like, it's not really hunting.
It's not like you're going into the wild animals.
They literally let it go a day or two before the hunt.
- But you've seen Tippy Hedron and these things where they bottle raise them,
so they're not
going to attack someone that bottle raised them.
- I don't think they do that on those farms.
Have you ever seen Louis Theroux, his documentary?
- I love him.
- I love him too.
- He's been on a couple of times.
- I love his, yeah.
- He's been on twice?
- The Scientology one.
No, he's been on a couple of times.
I love him.
- But he had a great special that he did about going to these hunting camps in
Africa, where
they raise these animals specifically to be released and hunted.
And he stayed there for a long time.
He's so thorough.
He got in with this guy and got very close with this guy that was running this
and he got
him irritated to the point where the guy was like, "Africa is fucked!"
and this guy was talking about why he did it and he's like, "It's fucked!"
And he's like, "These animals are fucked!"
And he was basically explaining the only way these animals have any value is if
they're
worth money to kill.
That's why there's high populations of them, which is really wild because they
used to be
on the verge of extinction, a lot of them, and they've regrown their numbers
substantially
just because there's businesses that are designed so that people can, that's
the guy, so people
can go over there and hunt these animals.
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The Cruelty of Keeping Exotic Animals in Captivity

- The Joe Rogan Experience.
- To me it's all about body language,
and all about, sort of, and this is why I'm so into
horses and dog training and stuff like that,
and horse body language.
- Didn't you try to save some bears while you were out here?
- I did.
- I got an angry text from Whitney about bears.
- I love you, there I--
- She's saving bears out here, she's mad at people.
I'm like, whoa, are you having fights already?
- I fucking love Texas, but when you have Texas
and West Virginia, you're ready to fight anyone at any time,
and there are a lot, there's an incredible amount
of animal cruelty in Texas that, to me,
is against what Texas is all about.
Like, putting bears in boxes, what was it called,
the Central Capital, it was called the Capital Texas Zoo,
it's right fucking out here, there's bears in cages,
the ones that the Chinese use to do the gallbladders,
take them, you know, like the gallbladder, some medicine,
and they're in these cages and there's no water.
- What, you mean black bears, is that what you're saying?
- I'll show you.
- It must be a black bear.
- Yes, I got the name of--
- Do you know that gallbladder thing is like,
it's so bad that they, you're not allowed to,
even if you legally hunt a bear,
you can't open up its organ cavity,
because people are worried that people are shooting bears
just for their gallbladders in British Columbia?
- That's right, the Asiatic black bear,
and this bullshit Capital of Texas Zoo, which is trying to say,
it's like rescuing them, is all about the Asiatic black bear,
it's a species whose population is rapidly decreasing due to
illegal hunting for its gallbladder, which is used in Asian folk
medicine, and then you're gonna fucking put it in a box and not
give it any water, that pisses me off and it's a USDA violation.
So I go around to these bullshits.
- Are you calling these people out publicly
right now on this podcast?
- I guess I just did, didn't I?
These motherfuckers, here's what, you want to know why--
- This is a real problem for them, you understand that, right?
You just opened hell's door.
- It's a real problem for me, 'cause these motherfuckers have
guns at all times, and it is a really dangerous thing for me
to be into, remember I did it with the giraffe and those
fucking crooks in LA, and most of it I do privately.
Yeah, Malibu fucking, what is it, safari.
- So this thing out here, how did you find out about this?
- I found out about it because I'm in a pretty hardcore group
of people that try to--
- Animal rescue people?
- They try to shut down illegal behavior, zoos,
roadside zoos, because, and I know, it's like,
Whitney's crazy, she loves animals, like, who gives a shit?
To me, once I started learning the statistics on,
whenever there's exotic animal trafficking,
it's usually accompanied by human trafficking,
it's all the same people.
So when you see a lion running free in Houston,
or private ownership of lions, tigers, bears,
any apex predator, there's usually, you know,
teenagers from another country in the same truck,
so it's like dogfighting, it's like, people are like,
oh, it's just dogfighting, who cares?
That's what's in the front yard, but if you see that,
you see that in the front yard, go into the fuckin' basement,
and see what else is fuckin' goin' on.
So, that's what, that's what the top three most profitable
black market businesses, right?
It's arms, drugs, and then human/animal trafficking.
So it's the same people.
No one traffics jaguars and doesn't throw in a couple people.
- You know what's weird?
Let me pause and think about this for a second.
It's weird how we have associations with animals
where there's acceptable torture and death,
and some where it's not.
And with exotic animals, we're especially sensitive.
Especially sensitive to the idea of killing bears,
or putting bears in cages.
But if you found out that chickens are in a cage right next door,
you're like, well, that's a chicken factory.
- They're making McNuggets.
They gotta do what they gotta do.
- And I think I, and they're delicious.
Put some honey on that shit.
- But you know what I'm sayin'?
- And I think I know, I think I--
- What is that?
- I can say, well, my, 'cause when you see an apex predator,
a lion, tiger, or bear, that's so incredibly strong,
you know how much abuse had to go into containing that animal,
'cause they're so incredibly strong.
You know, Michael Jackson, I mean, the fuckin' asshole in LA,
Bob Dunn, I'm gonna say it, who puts chimpanzees in cages,
so that they don't build any muscle.
If you're seeing a chimpanzee, a lion, tiger, or bear in a cage,
they were, they had to, they gotta be on fentanyl,
they're on all these drugs.
Natasha Daly wrote a really amazing--
- They're on fentanyl?
- Oh, yeah, the ones in Thailand--
- They put chimps on fentanyl?
- Oh, they put 'em in cages like this,
so that they don't grow any muscle,
and any chimp, like Michael Jackson's chimps,
there were three of each, because when they--
- So they all have the same name?
- When they, well, there's Chubbs,
yes, there was like a Chubbs one, a Chubbs two,
and then a Bubbles one and two,
'cause after a year, you can't hold a chimp in a tuxedo,
it's gonna rip your face off.
- Right, just beat your ass.
- Yes, so after about a year,
they send it off to experiments,
there's one actually in a zoo in Armadillo, Texas,
one of the Chubbs,
I know where all Michael Jackson's fuckin' animals are,
like that's, that's my fuckin' hunting.
- What, really? - Yes, yeah.
- You know where all of Michael Jackson's animals are?
- Like all of them, I mean,
a lot of them are sold for experiments.
- Oh, Jesus, no, really? - The elephants
are kind of spread out, yeah, one of them died.
- They were sold for experiments?
- The chimps were, 'cause after--
- Like lipstick, what kind of experiments?
- Yeah, I mean, Chimp Experiments, Space Odyssey sequel, yeah.
- Space Odyssey sequel!
- But, yeah, I mean, it's a big,
a lot of colleges and universities,
the ones that are fuckin' waitin' around
for their student loans, imprisoning people financially,
do a lot of experiments on college campuses.
- Oh my god. - So I don't do a lot
of this publicly, 'cause I'll get murdered.
- You imagine you go from livin' in the fuckin' castle,
livin' in the Michael Jackson Neverland castle,
to gettin' experiments done on you,
and you don't understand English, and you're like,
"What is happening?" - Can you imagine--
- I had the life, I had the fuckin' life,
now I'm strapped in and they're experimenting on me.
- I went from being fucked by Michael Jackson,
to being probed, you know, in Texas.
- What the fuck? - I don't, it was,
but chimps, you know, I mean, they get so fuckin' strong,
they have to keep 'em in cages so their muscles don't build,
they don't feed 'em any protein,
and then they inject 'em with, you know, I mean,
there's one university which I'm not gonna say right now,
'cause I'm, like, gettin' all my fuckin' ducks in a row,
but they put Botox in their muscles
so they don't develop any muscles.
- Did I ever tell you about the time
I went to a tiger place in Thailand?
- Brutal.
- Did I tell you about this? - No.
- I did, we did a bunch of animal things,
me and my family in Thailand.
We did one of 'em that was really cool.
We hung around with elephants, and you fed 'em,
and I had it on my Instagram page,
you give 'em sugar cane, and you wash 'em, and then--
- As long as you're not riding 'em, and--
- No, you do ride 'em, but they want you to ride 'em.
They, like, let you.
You weigh as much as one of those stupid hats
with cigarettes in it.
- Totally. - That's what you weigh
to an elephant, but I didn't like it.
- Yeah, what they have to do to get them that compliant
is pretty brutal, you know?
- Not in this place.
- Okay, yeah, it's a-- - In this place,
first of all, these animals are completely wide open,
and they're free-ranging.
- Sheldrick Trust does a great job, too.
If they raise them from being babies--
- They do that, but they also take animals from circuses,
and reintroduce 'em to the wild.
'Cause while you're walking with these elephants,
they just grab a tree and start eating it.
Like, they can do whatever the fuck they want,
and they're so not intimidated by you in any way.
And the relationship that the trainers had
with the elephants was love.
It was all petting and giving them sugar cane.
They gave 'em food, and they were always washing them,
and when you have this, they did it very smartly.
- 'Cause a lot of these elephants,
if you reintroduce 'em to the wild, they'll die right away,
and the other elephants will actually kill 'em.
But this place in Thailand, they have successfully reintroduced
many to the wild.
And one of the things that they did is,
you don't just ride the elephant.
You have a relationship with it.
- Yes, that's it.
- So they bring you over, like,
this is the elephant that you're gonna have
a relationship with, and you're gonna feed him sugar cane
and wash him.
- That makes you so happy.
- So I'm handing them sugar cane.
They take it gently with their trunks.
They're sweet, sweet animals.
- Well, that's amazing.
Do you remember the name of this place?
'Cause I always love to promote the good places.
- I do not remember, but we stayed in Chiang Mai,
and it was an hour, maybe, outside of that.
Not that far away.
But the way they did it was, it was all about,
like, what you paid for, for that experience,
would go towards funds to help these animals
and reintroduce 'em to the wild,
and also get them from circuses,
and rescue them from some other places.
I didn't like the riding part.
I would say, but everybody else wanted to do it,
but my thought was like, I just want,
I like to feed you and I'll wash you.
I wanna be your friend.
I don't need to get on top and be like,
"Wiii, I'm riding you."
- That's a language elephants understand, you know,
and I think that the really shitty places,
which is most of them, give the good ones a bad name,
which sucks.
I went to one.
I went to Koh Samui, and I don't remember in Thailand
where I went to one, and there's, you know,
you go there, and everyone's riding them,
and then you look down, and there's just chains
between their feet, and I just, it killed me,
it crushed me, 'cause I thought I was going
to this amazing sanctuary, 'cause anyone can put sanctuary
in the front of their fucking thing,
but I think, I've heard you talk so much about,
you know, captivity of, you know, dolphins,
and it's just when you see that,
and when you're like, this is just intolerable,
like, these animals are not designed to be in prison.
It's prison.
You're watching this incredible thing be in prison,
and you know that this motherfucker,
the second it gets out, could kill everyone
within a 50-mile radius.
The fact that they're in this cage,
what had to happen in order to confine them that way?
I mean, what happened for someone to put you in a cage?
They'd have to fucking shoot you with darts.
They, you know, so, it's so heartbreaking
to see powerful animals be reduced
to a fucking zoo exhibition.
- A shelf trinket. - It's sick.
- Yeah. - And look, a lot of animal people
are fucking crazy as shit, and, you know, as we say,
animal people aren't always people people,
because a lot of people that are real big in animal rescue
have a lot of childhood trauma.
They were neglected, they were abused as kids,
and they see something voiceless, and that can't, you know,
send emails or make phone calls being abused,
and they go fucking nuts.
So I don't fuck with a lot of animal rescue people,
because they're not rational.
My thing is, like, let's focus on changing a law
instead of trying to get every fucking elephant
out of every zoo.
But, you know, I think that, you know, someone like you,
I think we're similar in that we see how fucked up it is
to have an apex predator in a box.
- Yeah, we went to the elephant thing,
and the elephant thing was, it actually felt good,
because these elephants, they came over the top of the hill