Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1664 - Josh Dubin
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1664 - Josh Dubin' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2021-06-09. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1664 - Josh Dubin

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Joshua, good to see you.
Good to see you, my bro.
What's happening?
I'm just in awe.
I love the new digs, man.
Thank you.
I'm super happy for you.
It's come together.
If you were here six months ago, it looked pretty shitty.
But Matt Alvarez has kicked some ass.
So let's continue this conversation.
Because you guys were just talking about golf.
And you were talking about how you don't want to hate golf.
Yeah, because everybody, it's like an inevitability.
It's happened the one or two times I've played this year by a whole 12 out of
18.
You're like, I want to get the fuck out of here.
I suck.
I'm tired of sucking.
That's what it is.
Let's end this suck.
Have you hired someone to coach you?
No, no, no, no.
I don't want to get that far yet.
But that's like, I feel like you can't come back.
But wouldn't I, I would imagine that it's like anything else.
Like if you don't get a coach, then you learn bad habits.
And those are hard to break.
Yes.
But I am breaking bad habits.
I had started with from like my whole life of everyone trying to say, like in
the four
or five times you play, you're doing this wrong.
Keep your head down.
We'll watch the ball for you.
All that kind of shit.
Oh, I just started swinging the, swinging the club however I wanted to.
And the ball was going straight and far.
And I was like, that's the goal of golf, right?
Straight, far.
Or at least you know where, at least you know where it's going.
They were all talking shit about you the other day at barbecue.
I'm sure.
They were like, Jamie just whacks the ball as far as he can.
Well, that's what Tony, that's what Tony says.
That's exactly what Tony was saying.
Of course, because Tony saw me play golf once and he can't hit as far as me.
Oh, so it's envy.
A little.
And you were saying that you don't like it, Josh.
You don't.
I don't know if it's driven by me sucking or if it's that the culture and what's
in my mind
about what the culture of golf is, is like, you know, people all tucked up in
whites.
Yeah.
Right.
And then, or the few times where I've played and felt pressure from people that
were behind
me to move it the fuck along.
I don't know what it is.
I have a very negative association when people tell me, well, deals are made on
the golf course.
I'm like, I don't know what kind of deals you're making, but I get how peaceful
it is.
And I know that my hatred is driven by my insecurity around sucking at it.
But having played baseball, I like, I think there's this little ball, I should
be able
to hit it real far and then I swing and miss or make a big hole in the course,
which apparently
isn't good.
Divots, I think they call them.
I don't play, so I don't know.
I'm scared of it.
Sometimes you want to divot.
Oh, you do?
But it's, there's a lot to it.
You know how many strokes of like, you've taught me without playing with you, a
pool.
Like, I hit it this way, hit it this way, hit the ball here, here, and I can do
this
kind of stuff.
Same kind of thing.
There's like 12 or 15, maybe 30 different kinds of strokes to make the ball
flight, go
different ways, roll backwards, stop.
Yeah, I've seen that, where they make it land and then it actually, like a draw
shot.
Yeah, like a draw shot in pool.
In pool, yeah, yeah.
Am I having a mushroom flashback?
Shooting star.
Oh, okay.
The ceiling has shooting stars, folks.
I wasn't going to say anything the first time, but then the second time, I was
like, oh no.
Yeah.
This could go bad quick.
No, we have a shooting star.
It goes across the top of the ceiling.
Yeah, those games, any game like that, the problem with golf for me is that
once you're
committed, you're on this course.
You got to go walk around.
It's a long ass place to go.
It'll take you hours.
I have upped that, though.
You've upped that?
Get a simulator.
You don't have to go anywhere.
You stay still.
So you have a simulator in your house.
Yeah, but you don't, you can't putt, so that's like, but that's half the
fucking game,
so.
Right.
But is it helping your, those long straight shots?
I've just started, yeah.
So yeah, you need to practice a lot.
I need to get thousands of strokes done so I can figure out what I'm doing.
And there's only one way to do that.
You have to swing hard and do it.
You can't like hit foam balls.
Right.
And so you have it set up in your house where you could swing full blast and
whack.
That's pretty dope.
There's not a lot of things like that where you could simulate in your house
that usually
you do outside.
Pretty fun.
You look skeptical.
Seems like a bit of a cop out.
If you're going to get in there, you got to get in there.
But wait a minute.
It's been raining all month here too.
But it's also like if you want to do numbers, like you can't just whack balls
unless you
go to one of those top golf places.
And we work all day.
So like at night I can get in 200 strokes.
At least I know where it's going.
Listen, again, this is driven by my insecurity.
I think it's probably a great thing to have a simulator.
Yeah.
I know how I am with games and I know that golf seems to me from the outside in
looking
like one of the most addictive games ever.
It seems super addictive.
You know, and now that I think about it, I forget which Malcolm Gladwell book
it was,
whether it was Blink or Outliers.
And I do ascribe to the 10,000 hour rule that if you're going to get good, it
seems like a
way to get good.
So I don't know what I'm talking about.
You got me on golf.
I'm real out of water.
Yeah.
It's a weird one though, right?
Because it's a thing where it's the only game that's really connected to
business.
Right?
Tennis isn't necessarily connected to business.
Like, you know, because golf, you don't have to be that athletic.
I mean, there's a physical movement involved to it, but you don't have to be
able to explode
side to side like you do with tennis.
See, and that's where I guess you just touched the nerve.
I think that that's where my aggravation comes from with golf is I think if you
got into this
conversation with a golfer, they would chew you alive about, oh, really?
It's not a sport?
Because I think it's a game.
I don't think it's a sport.
It's a skills game.
It's a skills game.
Yeah.
I mean, it's not that it's not a physical movement that you do, but you don't
get exhausted.
You know, no one's whacking you.
There's no defense.
Yeah.
And you could have somebody that is really struggling with alcoholism and drug
addiction be at the
top of the game like that guy John Daly was.
And I don't think that there's any sport where you can say the same thing.
That guy said he drinks how many?
16 Diet Cokes a day?
I thought of course life.
I don't know about Diet Cokes.
But he doesn't drink water.
He only drinks Diet Coke.
And he gets Diet Coke from McDonald's because they have the best Diet Coke.
Yeah.
They have that petrified ice.
Well, they also have like the syrup is stronger, I guess.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
I think it's awesome.
Look, I have extraordinary reverence for people that become skillful at
anything.
Like, I'll often look around a room and be like, how the fuck did people, you
know, invent
light bulbs or microphones or get great at this game with this little ball?
So, you know, I'll lay awake tonight regretting the fact that I was-
Shitting on golf.
Shitting on golf.
And there goes my existential, you know, angst.
I'm kind of with you about all these things.
Like, I'm impressed when people get good at Dance Dance Revolution.
Watch them do those fast footwork movements.
Like, it seems kind of useless.
But probably actually for fighters, actually, if you really think about it,
like the ability
to do that kind of footwork, to move the feet that quick.
Like, Lomachenko, right?
That's how he really got good with footwork is that Ukrainian dance.
I mean, the guy can do things that, not just dancing, but, you know, you ever
see what
he does with a tennis ball tied to his head on a string?
Yeah.
I was like, well, that'll be good for hand-eye coordination.
What did you think of his fight with Lopez?
I thought that there was something off about him.
I remember you and I spoke about it before the fight.
And it seemed like his slow starts might catch up to him.
And it seemed like that happened there.
I mean, I just think he's a mesmerizing athlete.
And I feel like he always gets started four or five rounds too late.
And I think Lopez had this weird, sort of awkward, smothering, you know, in-and-out,
cat-and-mouse style.
Look, people can say what they want about Lopez.
He's quick.
He's accurate.
He's a little awkward.
So I was disappointed because I think Lomachenko and his dad are good guys and
great athletes.
And they sort of, they broke the paradigm of how you're supposed to ascend to a
championship.
And they got there quick.
Well, I think he's too small for Lopez.
Lopez is a monster.
That motherfucker hits so hard.
There's so much danger in getting close to him.
You know, and Lopez is constantly pressuring.
And he's got incredible endurance for a heavy hitter.
Like a lot of guys who hit real hard like he does, like he basically doesn't
throw anything half speed.
Yeah, no, you know, I saw him in the gym when a guy that James Prince and I
managed,
of course, Stevenson, was in this, you know, third or fourth fight.
And for a guy that hits as hard as he does, he's very, it may not seem so when
you see it,
but he doesn't expend a ton of energy in getting off a big power shot.
And I was like, wow, this guy, he's technical in a way that is not, doesn't
seem intuitive
because you're looking for the sort of hallmarks of a technical puncher.
He doesn't seem that way, but boy, does he hit for his size.
He hits fucking hard and he knows how to get his knuckles on your chin.
He's got ring intelligence.
He's got that torque to his punch, which you can't teach.
Well, he's got, he definitely has natural power, right?
And you know better than anybody that you either have that or you don't.
He's got it.
He's got it.
But what's unusual with him is he also has volume.
You know, he doesn't fade.
And he like, he won the 12th round, which is like Lomachenko came back and was
winning the 11th, right?
That was when he was making his big push.
But then Lopez came back and won the 12th and he wins it with power because it's
so dangerous getting close to him.
I mean, he's obviously got great skill as a boxer, but his style is such a
assaulting power style.
He's just always pressuring, always pressuring, always throwing big shots.
It's just the consequences of getting too close to him are so dangerous.
Well, you know, you put, you put your finger on something that I think is
important that, that even people in boxing or in MMA, any combat sport, you
know it when you see it.
You look at Golovkin, for instance, if you see him and you see him next to
other people in his division and, and you didn't know anything about the sport.
And you said, that guy's the biggest puncher in his prime.
People would be like, come on, the kid with a nice haircut and not overwhelming
looking.
Big drama show.
Big drama show.
Listen, there's something about the way the fucking guy punches, the torque on
his punch.
He knows how to put everything together just right with the right kind of
torque
and the way he turns his knuckles over.
He's also so well-schooled.
He's just so good at finding openings.
I felt like he won the first Canelo fight,
and I felt like the second fight was arguable,
but it could even have been a draw.
But his last fight, who the fuck did he fight in his last fight?
I forgot.
He nuked some dude, but he looks good.
He looks good in a way that makes me suspicious because he's a little older.
Yeah, you have reason to be suspicious of these guys that get more endurance
and stronger.
When they're 38?
No, it's not.
Mama nature doesn't ordain it that way.
Back in the day, remember when Larry Holmes came back to fight Mike Tyson?
People don