Name: Josh Dubin's Dinner with Trump That Led to a Presidential Pardon
Uploaded: 2021-06-09T17:31:29.000Z
Description: Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Josh Dubin's Dinner with Trump That Led to a Presidential Pardon' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2021-06-09. Transcript available.

Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Josh Dubin's Dinner with Trump That Led to a Presidential Pardon' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2021-06-09. Transcript available.

the Joe Rogan experience and here's a good testament to how if you see past
the bullshit of what divides us and labeling people this and that you can
always because we had a lot Jason Flom and I you know who's a board member at
the Innocence Project we were overwhelmed by the outreach just from
being on your show and talking to people how can I help one thing you can do to
help is always keep an open mind with regardless of who you're dealing with
that's an easy way to help watch this I represent the chairman of Marvel
Entertainment his name is Ike Perlmutter billionaire many times over he's
happens to be closest friends with Donald Trump way before he was president I
could
have used that as a way to separate myself from him to dismiss him and I
represented him I still do in this wild case where his DNA was stolen and he
was accused of something he didn't do and Ike Perlmutter at one point said you're
not paying enough attention to my case and it was because I was working on an
exoneration case in Florida Clemente's case actually and he started following
the
case in the press and this isn't a guy that was like some criminal justice
reform advocate he said it struck him that if I didn't have you and Roy black
who's a
famous criminal defense lawyer that was handling this civil case if I didn't
have
you and the resources to fight this I would have been accused of a crime I
didn't commit and it struck him that he had the resources to make a difference
so
he started making gifts in my honor to the Innocence Project substantial gifts
and I
could have everybody around me said you're friends with this guy you become
friends with him and he got enlightened to the point where in December I'm in
Florida a week before the capital riot he called me and said Josh look I want
to
help get somebody executive clemency if I can and I want you to figure out one
person that you think is you know the most deserving candidate for it and let's
try to get it before the president I was in Florida he was in Florida he said
you're gonna meet with the president and look a lot of people would have said
to
me fucking crazy how could you meet with him I don't care about any of that I'm
trying to save a life so there's a retired judge federal judge named John Gleason
who started this project called the Holloway project where his he started to
realize exactly what you were talking about people on nonviolent drug offenses
where there were just disproportionate sentences he had a list of people or you
know to come up with one was difficult but I asked him Barry Sheck who's the
one of
the founders of the innocence project and various others who do you think is if
you
had to give me a list of ten so I got lists and judge Gleason's client was this
guy named Jawad Musa who was in Baltimore the worst possible circumstances he
gets
arrested on this reverse dry sting they call it where he's asked to cobble
together
twenty thousand dollars and make a heroin purchase in New York and no drugs
ever
existed it was all a scheme it was a setup by an informant he cobbles together
five of the twenty thousand dollars goes to New York gets arrested on the spot
and
sentenced to life in prison jesus so I read about him he's in jail for over 30
years oh jesus he has he has
52 degrees certificates um by all accounts judge Gleason said look he pointed
out areas in the law that I had never considered so I could not get this guy
off my mind so I finally put him forward as the person so I thought that I
would submit paperwork and it would go away
okay so one week before the capital riots Ike called me and said you're gonna
come to dinner tonight with your wife
and you're gonna present the case to various people in the White House
um at Mar-a-Lago now there are some Democrats left-leaning or otherwise you're
gonna go to Mar-a-Lago
and I would always say hell yes I'm going to try to save someone's life I met
with Ivanka Trump
Jared Kushner and just explained to them the case and I gotta tell you she said
look I really admire your work at the Innocence Project
um think this is really noble we we think that this is a great candidate for
executive clemency and it was like throughout the dinner it was on to the next
person on to the next person
so at one point there's a table like we're sitting at a table and literally the
distance you and I are
from each other there's two empty seats and it dawns on me that we're gonna be
having dinner with the
president and his wife so at some point he walks out and everybody stands at
Mar-a-Lago and claps when he
comes out like Kim Jong Un it was worse than that I'd say have you ever seen
the Kim Jong Un clapping
oh yeah I saw the most recent one I saw the videos of it yeah see the recent
one no the recent one is
mind-blowing he walks in but oh we'll get to that in a minute all right so so I
said to Ike do I have to
stand and clap and he goes if you want your pardon you do so I stood and clapped
so dinner is progressing and
we're not talking and fine you know we're not talking about this so finally Ike
says to me look
he wants to talk to you about this case now and he asked me a bunch of very
pointed questions
so all of a sudden then I find myself at a table my wife myself the president
the first lady Ike
Perlmutter and his wife and he says look I've here I hear great things about
you from Ike tell me about
the case tremendous tremendous things I mean it was so loony I remember him
saying I want ice cream
ice cream two scoops I want two scoops two scoops he kept saying I don't know
why that stuck with me
but he said he told me this story he said you know do you uh do you think he's
innocent I said no I
don't think he's innocent I'm executive clemency we're asking you to pardon him
it was a non-violent
drug offense I explained the whole case to him and he said I can't I had Jim
Brown come to me the famous
running back and the guy was a murderer I couldn't do that I only want non-violent
drug offenses
and he said where is he going to work when he gets out and I said I've offered
him a job he has his
paralegal certificate that he got in jail and he said you'll employ him I'll
employ him
a week later so I meet with him he tells me call white house counsel and then a
week later the
fucking capital riot happens so everybody involved in this potential
presidential part is like well
this is a wrap this isn't happening the last day of his presidency the last day
I was at Ike's apartment
with my wife and kids and the phone rang and he goes it's the white house
um he said don't go anywhere because we were walking out and he walked out and
he said
the pardon was just signed and the there I don't know this man I never met him
my immediate release of him I started to weep openly um you know it there's
just no feeling
that you can ever put into words when you help restore another human being in
that way now jawad musa
uh and I met for the first time over FaceTime you know four days later
I flew his brother to meet him he was in Colorado some awful facility in
Colorado
I flew his brother out there he got out like that the pardon happens and then
you're out
he was flown back to Baltimore we met in the airport on FaceTime and we were
immediately felt like
bonded like brothers he now works for me and his insights in the five months
four or five months
that he's been out his insights on cases a man that spent 30 some odd years
working on it became like a
jail lawyer you realize that there are people human beings that have been
forgotten that have so much
potential if someone just cares so now he's you know it's not without problems
he's working on getting his
official out of jail paralegal certificate but you realize that if you just
create connections
and and allow I don't want to sound like some silly infomercial but I easily
could have
found reasons why not to try to enlighten someone whose politics were different
than mine
and Ike Perlmutter was the least likely person but he's now I've found that if
I if you tap into it
and and turn his mind on to the human suffering he now wants to start a
criminal justice reform center
that we're working on together so I just feel like sometimes in a world where
our politics are so
divided it was one of the more bizarre meals I've ever had two scoops two scoops
but it was worth it man
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