Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1692 - Jason Wilson
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1692 - Jason Wilson' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2021-08-05. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1692 - Jason Wilson

Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
Well, it's a pleasure to meet you.
Oh, it's an honor to meet you.
Honored to meet you too.
You know, I've paid attention to your videos, and I follow you on Instagram,
and so many
times I've watched your videos and said, that's an authentic guy.
Like, I want to meet that guy.
I want to talk to him.
So I was really excited that you were willing to do this.
Oh, man, I was honored.
You know, let me turn this, I guess.
I was really honored.
When I reached out to you on Instagram, I was surprised that you were following
me.
I was blown away, man.
I just said, man, you know, I've been watching you for a while, and I was just,
you know,
when you offered for me to come here, man, I was just ecstatic.
So thanks, man.
It's an honor to be here.
Oh, my pleasure.
You know, I think one thing that young boys and men as well need in this world
is guidance.
And mentorship.
And to get that from martial arts is one of the best ways and one of the most
fulfilling
and satisfying ways.
So I found you from a video that a bunch of people sent me of you working with
a young boy
who was having a hard time dealing with the pain of, like, punching through a
board.
You know the video.
And just the way you were communicating with him and letting him know that it's
okay to cry
and that, you know, just express yourself.
And it was refreshing and it was authentic.
But it was also, like, you could tell, like, that kid is going to get a lot out
of that exchange.
And I was like, I want to meet that guy.
Well, yeah, man.
I mean, that video opened my mind up to really what men were dealing with
inside.
Because when that video went viral, our offices at our nonprofit had to shut
down.
Really?
Okay, so the Cave of Adullam, the martial arts program you're speaking of, is
under the
umbrella of our nonprofit, The Union.
And so when this video went viral, my wife calls me, who was our executive
director.
She says, Jason, is there a video that's going viral?
And I'm like, what do you mean?
2016?
I didn't really understand the terminology.
And sure enough, this video started racking up a lot of views.
Shortly thereafter, our phones wouldn't stop ringing.
And it was men from all over the world crying to our staff, calling and crying,
saying, I
want to be free.
I'm tired of holding all of this in.
I wish my coach would have talked to me that way when I was going through a lot.
Yeah, there it is right there.
Yeah, that's it.
Well, it's hard to find a good mentor.
And I think every man needs a mentor.
And, you know, one of the things that martial arts does that I think is really
important is
it gives you these goals to work towards as you move through a belt system or
whatever kind
of system that each martial art that's different has.
As you develop your skills and you get more proficient and you improve, you
have like tangible
progress and you can see it.
And I think there's a lot of people that go through life not exactly sure where
they stand,
where they're at.
And I think martial arts provides you with real feedback in one of the most, I
think,
one of the most emotionally and physically difficult things that a person can
do.
Yes.
And so many people don't realize the young boy in that video, Bruce, he was
actually had
a fear of failure.
He had broke that board easily the week prior.
But because of this test and the pressure and everyone watching, he just froze
on his non-dominant
hand and he couldn't break through.
So he broke down crying.
And I welcomed his tears and said, look, we cry as men, you know, let this go.
And men, and I love about martial arts, more than sports, it makes you face
your fears.
And nothing like if a punch is coming at you, a kick, or if you're grappling
and you're
concerned that someone's going to take your back and choke you.
I apply all these principles in life as well.
And so when you give a man or a male a safe space to really be emotional and
let go of the
anxiety that he feels every day, the father wound, his fear of failure, his
lack of confidence,
where he can have a moment, we call it a moment on the mat, where you can stop
the training
and you can express what's overwhelming you in that moment, they transform
instantly, man.
And it's a great thing to see.
And I've never seen anything work like the arts.
Even with my son, he's 13 years old.
You saw him, you know, six, one and a half.
Everyone says, you're going to play basketball.
And it's like, no, it's other things that I want to do.
And so even with sports, I say, son, it'll give you some confidence.
But when we spar, we're training, the anxiety he feels, the voices.
Oh, man, Chris hit you again.
What are you going to do about that?
How are you going to maneuver?
How are you going to respond?
And I allow him to break down in that moment.
I say, OK, cool.
Now it's time to recover.
Reflect on it.
What's the lie?
What's the truth?
Do you think this man is not supposed to hit you?
He's a skilled fighter.
The goal is not for you to be the best.
The goal is for you to learn.
All right.
So when I give him that freedom to feel, to feel the fear, now they're not they
don't succumb to it when it really happens in real life.
And so that's why I love the arts, especially the grappling arts, which I hate.
I didn't discover until later in my training because nothing like someone invading
your space.
You know, we can keep distance striking and we're comfortable here.
But when someone invades your space or when a problem happens in your life
where it's so close and personal that you can't just shake it.
You have to learn how to buy your time and maneuver and don't let it come
around you or you can get tapped out by the stress of that situation.
The arts is just amazing if it's taught in a way that men can apply it to life.
I couldn't agree more.
And I think one of the beautiful things about jujitsu in particular is there's
so much failure.
And you could call it failure or you could just it is what it is.
I mean, there's one person gets tapped.
The other person taps the person out.
One person submits.
The other person applies a submission.
It's just and it's constant.
If you're training with really good people, you're experiencing loss on a
regular basis.
And so you can you understand how to process that.
For some people, when there's when they've failed in life or when something
didn't go their way, they fall apart.
It's devastating.
They they judge themselves as a whole based on one moment, whether it's a
moment at work or whether it's something in their personal life or whatever it
is where they've they've they haven't achieved achieve success the way they
envisioned it should happen or they wanted it to happen.
It's devastating.
It kills their confidence and they don't know how to handle it.
One of the beautiful things about Jiu Jitsu is you achieve failure all the time.
I mean, if you train with good people, you're constantly getting strangled and
armbarred and leg locked.
And it's just just what it is.
And, man, you know, I came from I started with Shaolin Kimpo.
Actually, I started with what they call the combat Jiu Jitsu Jiu Jitsu in
Detroit.
And it was more of an urban type training.
And we didn't even have mats, man, because the instructor at the time said
there's no mats outside.
So he was training us to do security.
And these guys were so serious.
They would shut down crack houses.
Oh.
And so imagine coming from that and then going to more of like a Shaolin Kimpo
system.
Even my instructor then was very serious Vietnam veteran.
It wasn't this touch magical stuff where you fall out.
But still, that type of training, going from Aiki Bujutsu as well and then
going to Jiu Jitsu.
Jiu Jitsu, there was never a day off.
I hurt every time after training.
Yeah.
And I want to thank you real quick.
I was about to dive into Aikido.
And this is when I first heard of you.
Okay.
And so I'm Googling, you know, you're trying to make sure this is something you
want to do.
Because I only study the arts, not necessarily to learn how to defend myself,
because in my community, people carry guns.
Okay.
So that's the eliminator of all of that.
And so I would use it to help men and boys to navigate through their emotions
so that they don't succumb to the negative ones.
You had a show with an Aikidoka, someone who practices Aikido, and you said you
think this would work against a D1 wrestler.
And you showed the video, and the D1 wrestler just overwhelmed this person in Aikido.
Joe, I always felt that way when I started training.
It was called Yoshinkan.
It was the real stiff.
I said, this won't work for real.
And although I appreciated the principles, but it was that show that you had
that really said, look, go into something else.
Then I tried Aiki Bujutsu, which is like samurai wrestling techniques more.
It was like a hybrid, a mix of Jiu-Jitsu, Judo, and then some Aikido.
But nothing was like Jiu-Jitsu, man, because it made me face my self-doubt.
When you think you're the greatest, you're humbled really quick.
And then I had to overcome what I call false humility.
You know, sometimes I would be bigger, majority of times, bigger than the
person I would roll with.
And as a teacher by heart, I would catch myself, Joe, teaching the person I'm
rolling with how to beat me and what they're doing wrong instead of just
dominating him.
So then one of my coaches, Xander Heinen, who's a Marcelo Garcia black belt, he
says, you're supposed to dominate.
Don't worry about teaching them.
They'll learn on the mat.
And that was something I had to work through as a teacher because I saw men
when I was rolling with them, when they were really tight, my training and
other arts allowed me to be soft and let that energy go past me so that I can
control them.
But I wanted to help the man because I knew inside what he was dealing with
personally.
And that's why he was rolling with me so aggressive.
And so I had to make myself tap out, do my best to tap out everyone on that mat
that day, which, you know, is a very hard thing to do in a good school.
But God was telling me, you got to get past this because I need you to go to a
certain space in life where you won't be fearful of being dominant.
And so many good men shrink back and become passive.
And jujitsu makes you say you got to you have to face this.
You have to be strong.
You can't avoid the difficult conversation you need to have with your wife.
You can't avoid speaking up for yourself when someone took a position from you
at work.
And the arts, again, if taught correctly, it allows a man that pathway to
really develop holistically.
That's interesting.
A fear of being dominant.
Yeah.
So I see what you're saying, though.
Like you're worried about, like, almost being a bully or something.
Or just being just the best.
I had a situation, my cousin, and this is where it started from trauma because
there's a cause and effect for everything that we do.
I had to remember the Sony Watchmen TVs, the little portable TVs.
So he had let one of the gang members in our area use it, and they never gave
it back.
And so I was so upset.
Before I knew it, I hit him on the side of where his temple was, and he went
deaf temporarily and dropped in my kitchen floor.
That scared me because I loved him.
And ever since then, for a period of my time in my life, I refused to be
dominant.
And that scared me in that moment.
But one of my instructors could do it.
So you just hit him just because you were upset at him.
I was angry, man.
I mean, as a male, I thought I got punked.
Yeah, we're not taught to really reason or reconcile.
You disrespect me.
You got to pay for that.
Right.
And here's someone I loved in front of me.
I couldn't say, man, that hurt me that you sold something that meant a lot to
me because then I would come off as weak.
So before I knew it, Joe, I hit him and dropped him in my kitchen, and he
couldn't hear for a while, and that sca