Name: Joe on the Outrage Around Dave Chappelle's New Special
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe on the Outrage Around Dave Chappelle's New Special' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2021-10-19. Transcript available.

The Joe Rogan experience have you talked to Chappelle about all the shit he got
Yeah a little bit we texted back and forth. It's you know, he's just you know
riding out the storm
Look, he's not a homophobic or transphobic person. He makes fun of himself
There's a bit in that special about him getting molested and jerking off in a
man's face
Yeah, I mean this is or coming in a man's face that look it's
Fun, it's just making jokes. That doesn't mean hate. This is the problem with
today if
You don't have an enemy you make an enemy and this is a real problem with
people
We would look for things
Like if there's some people that really hated you and they were the enemy
people that just joked around about stuff
Wouldn't be thought of as the enemy. It's like and as the level of people truly
hate you drops
You start looking for equilibrium and what you're upset about and so now you're
more upset about jokes now silence is violence
And now, you know, you can't just be this you have to be that and it becomes
this like weird control level
Where what people start to conflate you start when you start equating jokes
with like real feelings?
Well, you there they're they're not the same thing. Well, I don't think that's
what it is
I think they're trying to put different individuals or groups on a pedestal and
kind of make them set sacred
And we have someone comes along and knocks them off that pedestal
All of a sudden you're trying to undo what I'm trying to do
Which is to make this person holy and now you are my enemy because your agenda
is the opposite of mine fully agree
I was getting to that okay. No, it's okay. You're right though 100% but it's
these these ideas that that you can't make fun of are
Dangerous they're not good for anybody. They're not good for the people to hold
those ideas
Whether it's about who you are or what you do
The idea that no fun can be had about any of this is crazy because the idea is
that then all fun is done
Maliciously and out of hate and we know as friends that is just not true. No,
like all my fun is malicious
Well, it's also funny. If you and I were fucking with each other. We're saying
ridiculous shit right each other
We would both be smiling while we did it. This is what roast battles all about
my friend Brian Moses
This is what a lot of what kill Tony's about like it's fun
There's fun in making fun of each other and we have to accept that yeah
And then I need to know your real feelings about gay people your real feelings
about trans people your real feelings about all
Religions and all races and all ethnicities, but we got to be able to joke
around about each other
And if you get down to Dave Chappelle's real feelings
He's a lovely person. He's one of the nicest people I've ever met in my life.
He loves everybody
He he's not a hateful soul. He's beyond jealous
He's just a guy who loves this art form
Called stand-up comedy and he tries to do his best navigating through this
world of talking shit about things and saying outrageous things that get huge
laughs or
Placating really sensitive groups that feel like they're in a protected class
And then the other people that pile on there that also feel like this is a
protected class and they equate any
Jokes with hate and this is where they're wrong
Like I'm telling you that Dave Chappelle does not hate anyone or anything, but
he's not that person
He's his jokes are just that they're just jokes
And if you really pay attention to what he's saying whether you agree with him
or not in some of his jokes
Like whether or not they're funny, just really pay attention to the overall
message. It is in no way
Transphobic it's just not but this is a way for low-status people to try to
compete with Dave and try to get on his level
Because if I'm some kind of rando journalist and I take down Dave Chappelle or
Joe Rogan or somebody else this
Elevates my status in my rank and takes him down a peg and that's used you're
right from an evolutionary point of view
You're absolutely right. You can't can't be denied if you're a person and you're
looking up at a guy like Dave Chappelle
He's at the highest of high levels, right?
You have you know, you have to also acquit you have to equate that in anything
you you think about when you think about a guy like Dave Chappelle
But then you also have to realize that the problem is in
Listening to everybody you're gonna get a certain group of people that want
people to not be able to work anymore
They want to like stop you. They want to pull things down. They want to change
like what's available
You don't have to like it. Like here's the thing about a Dave Chappelle
Look, he's clearly the most popular comedian on planet Earth, right? He's
number one
He's clearly one of the greatest comedians that's ever lived clearly so
Obviously a lot of fucking people like him and what you want is people did not
have access to him right when you have options
You don't have to like it, but if you want Netflix to take it down and you say
it's hateful
This is this is an incorrect way to do this if you want to make your own
special about what was wrong with Dave Chappelle
So we're going YouTube with your monologue like Keith Alderman. Yeah, yeah, go
for it
And good luck to you and maybe you'll have a point that that person that you're
criticizing could take into consideration and go
Maybe I could do better at this
But because if something does bother you if someone says something ridiculous
about you and it doesn't make any sense
It doesn't have any effect on you the things that bother people is things that
are at least slightly accurate
But I think this just kind of speaks to what we're talking about earlier how
they're trying to have their be in the same way how
Intentionally or not it's trying to push everyone to be an Amazon or a Walmart
customer
They are trying to have everyone only consume media through pre-approved
sources, right?
That's a problem if you're not reading the New York Times or CNN or the Wall
Street or the Washington Post or whatever
That means you're doing something wrong
So this is what they're doing that process of elimination by trying to funnel
people into certain outlets that they themselves can control
And that creates uniformity and cohesion among the population
I think the problem is you create a journalistic version of the Streisand
effect
I think that's the problem
Well, it's encouraging people to watch Chappelle
Yeah, it's encouraging for sure
That special's giant
Yeah, oh yeah
And all the controversy has only been good
And the controversy is bullshit
Because it's not like he's Howard Stern back in the day
Well, it's not only that what he's saying in this he's telling about he's
telling a story about a real person that he was close with that
That died that became friends with him through comedy. There's a whole story to
it
I don't want to give it up because I think you should watch the special I toured
with Dave
We did a lot of shows together. It's this is his story that he had about this
person that he loved that died
It's not a it's not a transphobic story, but there's jokes in there and in
those jokes
He's poking fun at everything including himself
I mean, this is a part of his acts part of any comics act like this
There's a lot of it that's just designed to be funny while he's telling a story
That's one of the things that Dave does so well
He's like he tells these stories and he figures out a way to get his point
across while being really funny
But when you're gonna be really funny you're gonna make fun of yourself gonna
make fun of other people
You're gonna make fun of everything but that's but that doesn't equal hate and
that's not how men demonstrate camaraderie like coming from Brooklyn
You have the Jewish guy the Italian guy you have the Puerto Rican guy you have
the black guy
Everyone's busting each other's chops and that's how you symbolize that you're
comfortable with each other
Yes, I'm safe with you by saying things that would get me in trouble in other
contexts
And I trust you enough to know that you're not going to use that in a bad way
that we're all bros here
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