Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1724 - Jewel
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1724 - Jewel' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2021-10-25. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1724 - Jewel

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Oh, you're a real professional.
You're a one ear open, one ear on type of person.
That's funny, I did that accidentally.
Did you?
I'm sure it's habit.
I bet it is.
Yeah.
A lot of radio professionals will do that.
Really?
They almost want a little bit of ambient.
Yeah, I like to hear the sound of the room still.
Yeah, the real noise.
Yeah.
Who does that?
Jim Norton does that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's odd, but I get it.
I do it in the vocal booth.
Oh, that makes sense.
Yeah.
You want us to hear the actual sound, not like the digitally enhanced and
coming through speakers
and you want to hear your voice.
Yeah, everybody hears sound differently and pitch particularly.
I hear pitch as it sounds like waves to me.
Waves?
It's like if I'm tuning my guitar, I hear wah, wah, wah, wah, or I'll hear wah,
wah, wah,
wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah.
It's like a little vibrato sort of.
So when you push sound through air, it's pushing air and it'll make those
little waves.
But if you have just this on, it takes all the air out of it.
And so I don't hear pitch as well when I'm singing.
And so I'll always have one earphone off so I can hear those little waves that
I, because
if I can match my wave to that, to the wave I'm hearing, I know I'm in tune.
That makes the most sense for singers, right?
As opposed to any other kind of musician, because you're, you're modulating air.
That's part of what you're doing.
Yeah.
It's all breath control.
Singing is just about, it's because it's basically like a garden hose.
So all you have is like constriction, dilation, and then tone comes through
where you're pushing
your air, like where you're going to put that.
If you're going to put it in your face mask, white on your cheekbones or narrow
it to here.
And that's how you sing.
I would imagine the way you hear things is different too.
Like, like I don't, I'm not a, I love wine, but I can't tell you what it is,
you know,
but a Somalia can drink wine and sift it around and they have this educated
palate.
I would imagine like sound to you is like, you have like a different depth of
understanding
of sound, particularly like vocal sound, right?
Do you feel that?
Yeah, definitely.
Like you definitely cultivate your ear.
But what I love about music is uneducated people can tell whether you're being
sincere
or authentic or not.
Like it's kind of fascinating.
But something does get communicated in a voice that tells you a lot about their
heart
and how they're feeling.
And so much information gets communicated beyond pure tone that I've always
found that so interesting
about music.
Yeah.
In regular conversation, that's true as well, right?
It's with everything really.
And some folks don't see that.
And they're the ones who send money to televangelists.
Yeah.
Right?
Right?
Exactly.
Or cult members.
They join a cult.
Or those guys are probably great at, you know, tricking a lie detector.
Like they're just good at presenting a really specific thing that a lot of
people can't see
through.
There's a place that I was going to buy out here for a comedy club.
And I was in the middle of this process and it wound up falling apart because
there was
like some environmental issue.
But the place, it turned out, was owned at one point in time by a cult.
And there's a documentary about the cult and it's called Holy Hell and it's on
Amazon Prime.
And I watched it, but I didn't watch it until I was in contract with the
building.
I was like, holy shit.
Holy hell.
Yeah.
Holy hell.
It was so sad.
It was so sad.
There's this crazy guy who built this theater that I was going to buy just so
he can dance
in front of his followers.
And these poor people, they started with him in West Hollywood and then they
made it out
here to Austin.
And they built this structure specifically so that he could perform in front of
his followers.
And this was a place I was going to buy and convert to a comedy club.
And I hadn't watched the doc.
I should have watched the documentary first.
Did you buy it?
No.
It went up falling apart because there was an issue that I don't think I'm
allowed to talk
about.
I think I have an NDA, but it wasn't good.
There was an issue that needed to be resolved.
It's resolvable, but it wasn't resolved.
Right.
But the documentary, like you see these people who are not good at seeing
sincerity.
They don't know what's real and what's not real.
And they wanted this alternative path of life that was just, you know, they had
a community
together.
They grew their own food and it was all about love.
But ultimately it was run by this crazy guy who fucked all of his followers and
the men
followers, the women followers.
I mean, I think he was fucking everybody.
And he was.
Seems like the reason to have a cult.
It's like some people learn to play lead guitar to do that and other people
have to become
cult leaders.
Or they do both.
Like David Koresh, the Waco guy.
Didn't he do both?
He did both.
He had a little bit of music.
Manson, both.
Yeah.
There's a great Manson book.
I don't know if you ever heard of it.
It's called Chaos by a guy named Tom O'Neill who's been on the podcast before.
He explained it.
He worked on this.
It's a crazy story.
And unfortunately for people that have heard this before, I'm going to just
give Jewel a little
quick breakdown.
This guy was writing an article and he was my very good friend, Greg Fitzsimmons.
He was his neighbor for 20 years.
And this guy got an article, got a consignment to write this article.
And in the process of writing this article about the Manson murders, he starts
uncovering all
this crazy shit about the real root of what had happened.
And it turned out 20 years later, what it was really all about was the CIA.
And the CIA had been doing these mind control experiments with hippies and LSD.
And they did a lot of it in prison and had gone to prison to visit Charles Manson,
had given
him an acid in prison as a part of these studies.
Prior to.
Yes.
Prior to his release.
And then during his whole rampage, like the whole Manson family, supplying them
with acid,
getting him out of jail every time.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Getting him out of jail every time he was arrested.
And they ran a clinic in San Francisco, the Haight-Ashbury Free Clinic, which
my wife's mom
went, my wife's mom was a hippie in Haight-Ashbury in the 70s, went there in
the 60s, went there
for treatment.
Like she lived there and went there and it was a front for the CIA.
They were, they were doing drug experiments on people.
They also did a thing called Operation Climax, Midnight Climax.
Operation Midnight Climax, they would take over brothels and they would have
two-way mirrors
and they would give the prostitutes drugs to give to the Johns.
So these guys would come in to try to have sex and they would give them a drink
and they
would take a drink and they would get LSD.
And so then they would study them.
So they would inadvertently trip when they went to these places and then they'd
be studied
by the CIA.
And they ran these for years.
Holy shit.
Oh, that makes me sad.
There's this great book called Traumatic Narcissism that talks about the
psychology that often
leads to co-leaders.
It's a clinical book, but I found it really, really fascinating about the type
of person
that can, has that need, that drive to cause other people to submit, to help
support their
own image of themselves.
Well, the crazy thing is how prevalent it is throughout history, right?
Because it's, we're looking at it in terms of non-sanctioned versions of this,
like the
Holy Hell guy or Manson, but the Catholic church or many different churches.
Like you're dealing with the same exact scenario.
You're just doing it in a sanctioned form where you have cardinals and bishops
and the
Pope and it's all going down.
But at the end of the day, when that person is running that parish, unless they
are like
as true to the word of Jesus as is humanly possible to the point where they're
selfless
and they really dedicate themselves to, like I was having a conversation with a
good friend
of mine today about that, where he was telling me about this guy who works with
the homeless
in Austin that literally bought this chunk of land, built housing on it, has
people come
out there.
He and his wife live with these people and works to rehabilitate them.
Like the guy literally does like the work of the Lord.
Like he's trying to like help these people's lives, but he's really doing it.
Like they're like, he's the real deal.
Like how many of those are there?
It just takes so much personal self-reflection and work.
And that saying of absolute power corrupts.
Absolutely.
It, it's really true.
And not many people, you know, where you start separating people from God and
saying, no,
you can't talk to God.
I can talk to God for you.
Like you just set yourself up and obviously a really powerful position that's
going to
put everybody else at a disadvantage.
And you have to be so morally intact to be able to handle that kind of power.
And I don't know why you would want it anyway.
Yeah.
You wouldn't want it if you were that morally intact, but it's like, that's the
idea about
presidents, right?
Anybody who would want to be president shouldn't be president.
It's true.
It's so sad.
It is sad.
There's just doesn't pay good enough.
You're not going to get somebody to do the job.
Have you ever listened to a hardcore history, the podcast, there's a guy named
Dan Carlin,
who's amazing.
And he's a, he says he's not a historian because you know, he's not like
technically accredited
as a historian, but he really is a historian.
He's just more of an amateur historian, but he's incredible at breaking down
historical
events.
And he did this one about Martin Luther and about how Martin Luther was the,
you know,
the beginning of Lutheranism, Lutheranism.
How do you say it?
Lutheranism.
Sure.
Sure.
Sounds right.
In the, I guess the 1400s or 15.
Yeah, I know.
Exactly.
Anyway, what he did was translated the Bible into a phonetic language that is
accessible to
everyone.
Not just being in Latin where these folks who were, you know, religious had to
go and have
it given to them by the priests.
Instead they were able to read it themselves.
And they were also, he, he did another thing that made him a heretic where he
said, you,
you should be able to interpret the Bible into your own, you know, thoughts.
Like you should be able to interpret God's word.
You shouldn't allow anybody else to interpret it for you.
This is what century?
We're talking 1400s.
I think it was, I think it was the 16th century.
I think it was the 1500s or maybe it was the 1400s, but it was a, yeah.
I hadn't heard of them.
It's pretty interesting because they tried to kill that motherfucker.
I don't doubt it.
I bet they got it done.
I mean, is anybody.
I don't know.
But they're like, Hey man, you're fucking up our gig.
Yeah, exactly.
Because he came along and made the Bible accessible.
What, what year was, um, 1500s?
Yeah.
Wow.
What is true?
1507.
Yeah.
I think what people don't realize and not that, I mean, I don't know if you
know much
of what happened with my mom and I, but like something I don't think people
realize
is like that lobster in the pot thing of, you put a lobster, oh God, it's like
a whole
thing.
It took me a whole book to figure out even how to describe what happened with
my mom.
But to give you like a starting point when I was, so my mom left when I was
eight.
I, my dad took over raising us and we lived on a homestead in Alaska.
I found out about that through watching that show.
That's my dad.
I know.
That's crazy.
Alaska, the last frontier.
When I watched that show, I was like, wow, these people are cool.
And then someone goes, you know, that's where Jewel came from.
I was like, shut the fuck up.
No way.
And then I looked at everybody there.
I'm like, oh my God, they look like her.
It's true.
The big nose