Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1744 - Derek from More Plates More Dates
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1744 - Derek from More Plates More Dates' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2021-12-03. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1744 - Derek from More Plates More Dates

Joe Rogan podcast check it out the Joe Rogan experience trained by day Joe Rogan
podcast by
night all day hello Derek hey how's it going nice to meet you in real life yeah
I've seen
man fucking dozens of your videos so it's cool meeting you in person no yeah
long overdue how
did you get started um for me I've always sort of just been like a nerd about
pharmacology and
biology endocrinology stuff like that and I've always just researched online
about random stuff
and eventually um I was encouraged by a few people to start posting online and
I was uh I just started
writing out blog articles on a wordpress site maybe like five and a half years
ago or something at this
point and eventually it got to the point where I guess YouTube was already big
but it wasn't that
what it is now and I was just asking people in the I don't know like male self-improvement
niche that I
was friends with do you think I should be posting videos too instead of just
writing these articles
and they said yeah it's a no-brainer you should be so I just started basically
reiterating my articles
in video format too and then eventually the YouTube sort of outpaced the wordpress
site and that's why
it's always you know Derek from more plates more days.com that website was
where I originally wrote
my articles and that eventually got to the point where it wasn't very time
efficient to write
unfortunately so I kind of like move disproportionately towards video format
because I can just fire off a
video in I don't know 15 minutes that otherwise that in written format would
take five plus hours to
write out if not longer well I'd love the fact that you have like your
production is very minimalist you
have an air conditioner behind you wood panel wall it's like there's no attempt
at all to like glitz and
glamour but it's just good content yeah I mean and you just hit a million
subscribers so obviously
something it's working you know it's working well but it's what you're doing is
just you you have a
unique ability to pull information out of the air like you you remember stuff
like how things work
and how things you know like how especially when you you were talking about
catching people that are
doing steroids yeah like when like there's been many times you've gone over
people's blood work and
it's very educational I learned a lot about it especially like before I watched
your videos I thought
oh USADA like there's no way anybody can cheat with USADA around and then I
watched some of your videos
I'm like oh my god they're cheating yeah it's not like they make it obvious
where their shortcomings
are and where the loopholes are because they would obviously prefer people to
not know what they're
doing current research on to tighten up but yeah there's definitely leeway
still or else they would not
still be in the lab trying to figure out ways to bulletproof it essentially
well there's one gym that I know of
that at one point in time I don't know how they do it now but at one point in
time they had like
literally full-time scientists that were working with the athletes no yeah I
think a lot of athletes
have maybe not like a full team but there's always there's usually some sort of
chemistry slash
pharmacology guy in the back end who they're deferring to or even just their
bro yeah experienced enough
yeah but the bros is what how people get caught you're probably just like bro
you just got to do
this you're gonna test it and trust me and then you test positive and that guy's
fucked and yeah yeah
yeah I think usually there's a some sort of I don't know deferral to figure out
like even people who
anybody at a top level is trying to figure out what kind of edge they can get
regardless if it's
through straight supplementation dietary practice manipulations lifestyle
interventions etc and
obviously the conversation at some point comes up is like what's not on the
list that I could get away
with right or is there a way to get around or what are the other people in my
sport doing that I don't
know about and if other people are doing something you're going to you know it's
not as dramatic as
the Lance Armstrong case where everyone's doing it right so you're pretty much
forced to do it to be
competitive but you know people are thinking in that same the Lance Armstrong
one is the most ridiculous to me
because they took his jerseys away supposedly but he still has them you know
that he's like there's
a photo of him it's a hilarious photo of him on his couch like with his feet up
and behind him is all
these framed jerseys of him winning the tour de France yeah and it's like we
can do take my jerseys
i fucking won those bitches like and he did win them it's fucking ridiculous
how they even
you know pretty much everyone underneath him is doing the same thing 18th place
was the last guy
that you could find that did not test positive and even that guy though he
might have just got it out
of his system in time because probably they're still trying to figure out how
to detect epous blood
transfusions autologous you can't detect right now at all except for aberrations
in your hematology they
can kind of like infer based on longitudinal data that something's off and they
can assert that you're
doping and right putting blood back into yourself but they can't they still can't
even tell right
yeah yeah well that's why they try to use the biological passport right like
they try to get
a baseline of you at random times over a course of several months and then they
get in and they
understand like what your normal levels are yeah but even that varies with
sleep and diet and and
you've got to build up the data so if you're hypothetically an athlete who
understands how
this process works going into it it's not very hard to go to lab corp get my
own hematology panel
assess my reticulocyte hemoglobin red blood cell count over time develop my own
longitudinal
biological passport before i go into a tested sport and see do i fall within
the you know threshold
cutoffs where i would not get caught for my degree of autologous blood transfusions
um so hypothetically i could just i could go in quite confidently if i had done
the preliminary
research prior and if you're doing something like tour de france of course you're
gonna do that
research they have they had teams behind them yeah did you see icarus yep that's
a great documentary
yeah yeah god damn it's so good it's so good when you realize that the entire russian
olympic
team was juiced to the tits yeah the whole team yeah everybody that guy gregory
he said the only
people that it didn't benefit was the figure skaters so they didn't do it to
the figure skaters well i
would bet the figure skaters were still doing stuff that might just not be on
the band list yet or might
might be now who knows because even like 2000 i think it was 2000 when we're
the summer olympics it
was like 2008 2004 8 and 12 or something like that they've retested like since
they've developed some
of these long-term metabolite assays they've been able to go back and retroactively
catch i think it
was like 150 athletes that otherwise didn't get caught at the time and this was
over six years later
and then of those 150 that's just a ballpark number it's not accurate but it
was like 79 i think
were medalists and they they figured that out six years later uh well whenever
the the host country
wins like a shitload of medals that's when it all gets weird like sochi that
was a big one with russia
and then beijing the chinese one was a big one they had won so many medals yeah
and you know you know
that it's it's it's it's such a big thing for some nations like to win the olympics
yeah it's a huge
show of superiority yeah and they go all out man now what's that uh have you
ever heard of the uh i think
it's like the goldman dilemma or something where it's like if you were to die
in five years or win
gold for your country what would you take and it was like over 50 of athletes
said die in five years
and take the and take the win versus you know live a normal life yeah wild well
they in their head it's
everything yeah i mean to lose is so painful and to win is so glorious that
they'll just take it yeah
and in professional sports obviously the contracts are so ridiculous like there
was one nba player who
just popped for draw standalone and testosterone like a week and a half ago or
something and when you
actually look at it the guy has only played i think in totality like seven
minutes on the court or
something but his contract is like almost eight million dollars so even guys at
the highest level
of professional sports it's so lucrative the amount of money that's on the
table that if you think even
if you're you know like a low tier like you're still a top tier athlete
obviously if you're in the nba for
example but if you're at the bottom of the totem pole and you think you have
leeway with you're not
going to get tested as much or whatever the choices of drugs he used to were
like one of them was absurd
and made no sense but i assume he was just hedging against the chance that he
would get randomly tested
to you know if it helps you get this lucrative contract even if you're like
just a seven minute
court player yeah like it's a big deal well it's probably the the guys who get
caught doing something
stupid it's probably some dude from the gym right maybe somebody from the gym
tells them how to do
things they're not being sophisticated about it especially he's not a top tier
athlete he's just
kind of a guy who plays occasionally yeah yeah i've heard in arm wrestling it's
like a more obscure sport
obviously but some of them are drug tested the scrutiny is very low but some of
them don't even
they just take whatever they want and go sauce to the tits and us just hope
they won't get tested
like that's their strategy yeah so like they take whatever the they want and
just hedge against the
probability that they won't get tested and then if they get lucky which a lot
of the times they do
because it's very low scrutiny testing they just go in like full board yeah
well the ufc um and mixed
martial arts in general is a very interesting sport because uh from that
perspective because it started out
all juice like started out literally like most of the athletes were on
something it was you know you'd
have to be a real rebel to not be on juice like the the rare bj pen type guy
who was like just a super
athlete who just didn't need anything and fought natural but so many of those
guys were on juice so
many like if you go back and look at them if you go back and look at like ufc
three four and five like
everybody looked like a superhero vitor was insane when he first started that
like uh the
fight where he i forget it was against vanderley and he just ran him across the
ring yeah that epic
shot yeah he was fucking cranked yeah well so was vanderley back then too yeah
but the physiques
like disproportionately bodybuilder-esque right well vitor at one point time
was 240 pounds and then he
eventually got in the ufc was competing at middleweight which is 185 pounds
damn so like yeah that he's pretty
juiced up there but if you go to vitor versus randy couture that was a fight
where he lost where his
body was so big his trap started at the top of his head yeah yeah and he was he
was enormous is that
vitor versus randy that might be the second fight i think that is the usc light
heavyweight title right
there yeah you want that that one in the upper right next to your cursor go up
yeah right there that's
him he was look how big he is he was huge that when he was like 240 his arms
were gigantic but he gassed
out quick and randy was a superior wrestler that was back when you could wear
shoes look randy's wearing
wrestling shoes that's old school ufc like that was uh early early on and there
was no testing there was
nothing no you had guys like mark coleman showing up looking like just jacked
mark kerr was even bigger
than mark coleman mark mark kerr the smashing ma