Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1768 - Dr. Robert Epstein
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1768 - Dr. Robert Epstein' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2022-01-21. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1768 - Dr. Robert Epstein

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night all day first of all thank you for coming really appreciate it this is a
very interesting
subject because I think search engine results have always been a thing that
people kind of
take for granted that the search engine results is going to give you the most
significant results
at the top and they don't really think about the fact that this is kind of
curated and you know
we found it many times because we use two different search engines we'll use
Google and then we'll say
well if we can't find it on Google use DuckDuckGo and oftentimes when you're
looking for something
very specific you'll find that you can't find it on Google like there if it's
in there it's deep deep
deep you know many pages in whereas DuckDuckGo will give you the relative you
know the relevant search
results very quickly so something's going on with search engines and from your
research what you
have found is that it can significantly affect the results of elections well
not not just that it can
affect how people think it can affect your opinions attitudes purchases that
you make pretty much it's
it's it's it's it's a mind control machine it's it's the most powerful mind
control machine that's ever been invented
uh and by the way you should never use the Google search engine never never
why is that because it this is what I call um and this isn't this is an S&M
platform now I'm not sure what S&M means to you I don't want to pry into your
personal life but uh point is that uh but what I mean by S&M is that this is a
surveillance and manipulation um platform uh on the surface there are always
two two levels to everything with Google on the surface
it's a it's a it's like a free public library kind of thing right yes that's
always on the surface
beneath the surface it's something different from a business perspective it's
an S&M platform
it exists for two purposes only and that is to trick people into giving up lots
and lots of personal information notice your public librarian doesn't do that
you notice that they don't actually do that right and then it's also used for
manipulation because they discovered quite a few years ago that if they control
the ranking
of the search results they can control the search results they can control
people's opinions
purchases votes now they can't control everyone's opinions because a lot of
people already have strong opinions so the people they're going after are the
people who are undecided the people who are vulnerable and they know exactly
who those people are and they literally you're you're you're mind is putty in
their hands
uh so you should never ever use google or any other S&M product like Amazon
Alexa is an S&M product or the Google Home device or Android phones
Android phones are bad
Android phones are always recording you are you serious yeah I mean I just I'm
questioning this I mean I believe you but I just want you to elaborate
oh yeah there've been court cases in which the recordings have been subpoenaed
uh from uh whoever's controlling that you know that so-called personal
assistant or that that device and courts have recovered recordings and
transcripts uh when people are not even aware that they're that they're being
monitored
oh that's the case with Alexa right yes but that's the case with Android phones
as well
yes in fact Android phones the equipment to prove this which I didn't bring but
um is so cheap now that literally anyone can confirm this Android phones even
if they're disconnected from your uh your mobile service provider
even if you pull out the SIM card okay as long as the power is on it is
recording tracking every single thing that you do so if you use it to read
things if you use it to listen to music
you use it to shop whatever it is it's it's it and of course your location is
always tracked then when you go back online the moment you're you're reconnected
it it uploads all that information
so some people wonder why their batteries run down sometimes even when you're
not really doing anything with your phone that's because uh with Android phones
it's I think it's
I think it's about 50 to 60 times per hour it's uploading uh it's uploading uh
it's uploading about 12 megabytes of data per hour
so that's a lot of a lot of energy that that that requires energy uh so it I
mean the kind of phone I have is completely different it doesn't do anything
like that
what do you have like a no agenda type phone do you know that show no agenda no
it's uh my friend Adam curry who's the original podfather he's the guy who
invented podcasting and he uh his company develops these de-googled phones
where they take out all the tracking stuff all everything
and it's uh it's uh it's it's basically running on a different operating system
right so I have a phone that runs on a different different operating system it's
completely de-googled and um
what do you got can you show it to me yeah I can show it to you I'm just
interested it just looks like any old regular phone right but it's not
is it running Linux what's it running no it's a it's a different operating
system can you not tell me
well I can tell it seems like you're trying to hide this Robert well the point
is I uh look if if you go if you go to a website it says myprivacytips.com okay
that's an article you get to an article of mine and that article begins I have
not received a targeted ad on my mobile phone
or my computer since 2014. Wow!
so there is a different way to use all the technology that's out there so that
you you are not the product okay so they're actually you know a user making use
of services but you're not the product and it can be done
and it and yeah there's a little inconvenience involved yes very little uh is
there some expense involved
very very little all these services that you get for free quote unquote they're
not free uh you pay for them with your freedom uh if you want to get them in a
paid form so that you're not being tracked we're talking ten to fifteen dollars
a month
literally all of those so-called free services uh that are really again these S&M
services all of them together are worth ten or fifteen bucks a month
and how do you do how do you use your phone though if you want to have a search
engine are you using uh a different search engine like what are you using
well that's that's that's changed for me over time but right now i'm using uh
the brave browser
i use that okay that's good that's really the best one right now and then brave
introduced uh a brave search engine
which uh now fortunately very recently you can make the default search engine
on brave so brave doesn't track at all
brave works faster than chrome chrome is is google's surveillance browser and
uh brave works even faster they're both built on what's called chromium so they're
built on the same tech
except that um brave suppresses all ads so it works much faster than chrome
does and you know now again you can make the default search engine on brave
literally the brave search engine so
do you ever run into websites where they don't work properly because it's
trying to upload ads or something and maybe there's a glitch
uh very very rarely uh and then i will go over occasionally i'll go over to uh
firefox uh because firefox was actually developed by a guy named brendan ike
uh who might be really interesting for you to talk to by the way uh and then he
left uh mozilla which was the non-profit organization that developed firefox
oh by the way the connection between firefox and google don't even get me
started it's disgusting
but the point is brendan got sick of that situation and he founded his own
company and he developed brave so the same guy who developed firefox developed
brave
very much into privacy uh you know really a forward forward thinker he's
amazing guy so when did you first become
interested in digital surveillance and privacy and like what you're giving up
by using these free services like google
i wasn't interested at all i've i've been a researcher for 40 years and i had a
lot of
research underway i've done research on on teenagers and creativity and stress
management all kinds of things i'm still doing all that stuff
but on january 1st of the year 2012 i got a i don't know eight or nine messages
from google uh telling me that my website had been hacked
and that they were blocking access so i thought the first thing i thought was
why why am i getting these notices from google
who made google the sheriff of the internet why am i why isn't this coming from
the government why isn't it coming from some nonprofit organization
so that got my attention and then because i'm a coder i've been a programmer
since i was a teenager
and then i started wondering wait a minute okay they're blocking me on the
google search engine i get
that that's that's them right so they so so they have these crawlers you know
that look at all the websites every day
and their crawler found some malware on my website that happens all the day too
everyone gets hacked i'm sure you've been hacked and google has itself has been
hacked
so i get that they're blocking me on google google.com search engine i get it
okay but i noticed they're also blocking me on firefox which is owned by a
nonprofit
owned by a non-profit they're blocking me on safari which is owned by apple i i
thought that's how could that be these are these are completely separate
companies
took me a while took me a while to figure this out i finally published a piece
in u.s news and world report
uh an investigative piece called the new censorship and i described nine of
google's blacklists this was 2016 so this was a while ago
in detail in detail i described nine of google's blacklists i explained how the
blacklists work i explained google can literally block access
on multiple platforms that aren't even theirs they can block access to any
website that google at one point in time
uh 2009 i think it was i don't know i might get the date wrong let's just say
january whatever 30th
uh google blocked access to the entire internet for 40 minutes google google
google anyway in this article
i mean when you say that if with all browsers when you say blocked access to
the entire internet so like
if you use the brave browser back then did it even exist back then probably
didn't exist brave didn't exist
but no there were well there were lots of search engines google was not the
first search engine it was the
21st search engine so but what i'm saying is with all web browsers it blocked
access to the internet
it blocked access to virtually the entire internet to virtually everyone in the
entire world for 40 minutes
what and this but this was reported in the news so is what's happening with
their their system is because
so many people are searching for things because they're monitoring so many
different things to add to their
search engines do they have some sort of ultimate control over the internet in
some weird way
here it is right here google blacklists entire internet glitch causes world's
most popular search
engine to classify all web pages as dangerous wow google placed the internet on
a blacklist today after a
mistake caused every site in the search engine's result page to be marked as
potentially harmful and
dangerous holy shit the fact that they can even do this i like how it gives you
like a at the top this
article is more than 12 years old okay imagine that like 12 years means like it's
ancient like they
wrote it on stone tablets 12 years ago yeah but but you know this is nonsense
this report is nonsense is it of
course they they this is google is full of geeks okay i'm part geek so i i can
relate i can speak
uh and and and and geeks for fun okay sometimes for profit but most of the time
it's just for fun just
to be cool and get their kicks and show the how powerful they are to be elite
yeah so they do so
they do crazy things so they shut down the internet i i guarantee y