Name: Spearfisher Valentine Thomas on Sustainable Seafood
Uploaded: 2022-01-26T18:00:56.000Z
Description: Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Spearfisher Valentine Thomas on Sustainable Seafood' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2022-01-26. Transcript available.

Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Spearfisher Valentine Thomas on Sustainable Seafood' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2022-01-26. Transcript available.

the Joe Rogan experience. So when did you start hunting? Because you're all
about your whole
message is like sustainability, right? Yes. And this is the knock on fishing,
is that people
have an idea that fishing is not sustainable. And Jordan Peterson actually
talked about this
yesterday and he said what they've figured out is that if you take large blocks
of the ocean
and make them off limits to fishing, because all the fish live within 40 miles
of the shore,
most of the fish do. He said if you take large blocks of these areas and designate
them as off
limits to fishing, then the fish grow and thrive in those areas and they
venture out into other areas
and it's like it helps. It's a win-win. Well, actually that study was retracted
in October.
Dammit, Jordan, you fucked up. Sorry, Jordan. It's so basically what they call
MPAs,
which is marine protected areas. And there was a study who came with a
conclusion of the fact that
if you increase by something like four or five percent the amount of marine
protected areas,
you would increase a fish stock by 20 percent. And the story was retracted
because the doctor who was
in charge of the study, apparently the study, the result was, was, or the study
was depending on the
result of this one. And it was a bunch of stuff that was just like kind of not
okay at all. And
like the other guy who co-authors the paper with her was her brother-in-law. So
she broke a bunch
of rules when it comes to, to etiquette kind of scientists. The guy who wrote
the paper was her
brother-in-law? Yeah, there was like some, some weird things going on. And so
the story,
the paper was retracted. Oh. The paper being retracted in the scientific
industry is pretty,
pretty intense. Here it is. Retraction of flawed MPA study implicates larger
problems in MPA science.
Goddammit, Jordan. So they not only, they not only found that out, but they
also found it out that
basically she had vested interests in governmental policies. So there was also,
there was a political
meddling into all of this. Right. So she had a bias in what she was trying to
achieve from that
study. So this is, this is also, also a pretty good website. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm
partner with them and
they're a university of Washington and they talk about a lot of sustainable
seafood and things like
that. You partner with them? Yeah. We just, uh, built up a blood, a blog
basically together to talk
about sustainable seafood, you know, like people are interested into seafood,
which is about six
people in the world, but you know, we're a great little community. People are
interested in seafood.
A lot of people are interested in seafood. So what is, uh, what's the best way
to keep, uh, ocean fish
and ocean wildlife sustainable? It's, it's such a complex topic. It's very,
very complicated because
there's a lot of assets to it. Right. But it's just the thing that I tell
people is tell me what
you believe in and I'll tell you what to eat because there's not one answer.
You know,
you can think about protecting the ocean. You can think about carbon footprint.
You can think
about modern slavery. You can think about modern slavery. Oh, there's a lot of
people who works
on both and different countries that are barely paid. Really? So if you're
buying fish, you might
be buying fish that was caught by slaves. Yes. So there was a big documentary
called fish.
Okay. So just to clarify on that point though, is the Cispiracy talk about that
a lot, but
you have a French accent. And sometimes when you talk, it's fine. English is
your second language.
I only have one. You're better than me. But when you say Cispiracy, nobody
knows what the fuck you're
talking about. You might see Cispiracy. It's a film. It's a documentary. Yes. Cispiracy.
So it was a Netflix and they kind of portraits, a pretty doom and gloom
situation of fisheries
around the world. And it's, there's, there's about 80% of the seafood being
consumed around the world
that is still sustainable. There is issues. There was issues in third world
countries and remote places.
The United States is the best country in the world when it comes to sustainable
seafood.
Really? It's about 99% of the seafood being consumed that's coming from the US
that is sustainable.
Oh, well that's good. Yeah. So when you say sustainable, how do they do that?
Are they doing that with
offshore farms? Cause I know they have some of those because I was in Hawaii
and we were, shout out to my
friends at strike zone. There was a, we were on a boat and we were catching
these yellow fin tuna.
And this guy was telling me, um, one of the gentlemen that I was fishing with
that these fish are not
even native to that area, that they were a part of like a, like a farm. They
have this enormous,
like kind of roped off area where they had left, like, I don't know how they do
it. They have like
a large net or something like that. Yeah. Enormous area. And they would feed
these fish and they were
using them for sushi and they were, you know, capturing them. So they live in
the ocean. They
would feed them little fish and shit like that and plump them up. And then a
storm came and fucked up
their net. And then they got out into the ocean and we were catching them. And
apparently there was
one area where you could catch a lot of them. And that's where we caught them.
And I was like,
this is really interesting because it could they do this all the time? Like, is
this a way to like
reintroduce fish into the ocean? And, you know, cause they behaved like wild
fish. It's not like a,
any other animal that you raise in captivity and they become domesticated fish
just have that little
robotic go eat, kill, like switch in their brain. You don't have to teach them
how to do it.
Yeah. I mean, it's farming is, it's like, it's a pretty touchy subject because
there's good farming,
there's bad farming, you know, same thing. Right. Like things with animals,
same thing, right?
Yeah. But when you think about fish farming is the same thing as cattle, it's
basically the exact same
thing. So it is a good way to raise it and it's a bad way to raise it. And it's,
I think it's just
about finding that species. Tunas are a bit tough because they're pelagic. So
it means that they're
migratory fish. Yeah. Migratory.
Yeah. And, uh, so it's, you know, what they often do, especially with bluefin
tuna,
like tuna that have very high value is they're going to catch it in the wild.
They're going to
put it in pans and just fat them up, making sure they're nice and chubby and
then they can sell it
too. How do they catch them in a net? Yeah. Normally Prusain is probably one of
the,
it accounts for a lot of, uh, I think over 65% of the tuna catch around the
world. It's,
it's, it's, it's a great way to catch tuna because it's basically you throw a
net around a school of
tuna. So there's very little bycatch because you just grab that school and then
that's it.
Oh, okay. So you don't have to worry about dolphins.
Yeah. So the problem becomes when you use what you call a FAD. So FAD is the
fishing or graining device.
And what it does, it creates like a little habitat. Normally it's like some
stuff hanging and then you
have a small fish, then the medium fish and the big fish and the predators
around. So what a lot of
people do is they put those FADs in the middle of nowhere, it creates an
ecosystem, throwing gigantic,
sorry, net around it, pick up everything. That's when the bycatch gets terrible.
But Prusain, when you're catching a school without FADs, the bycatch is very,
very low.
So bycatch is what they call a collateral damage. So it's a bunch of fish that
you don't want. What do
they do with the fish that they don't want? Like, what if they do that and they,
they, they throw
a net and they get like, like manta rays or something that they're not looking
for?
It's, they, they throw them overboard. Most of the time they're dead.
A lot of people try to say like, why don't we just keep the bycatch when it
comes to fish?
Obviously not, nobody wants to eat dolphin apart on other parts of the world.
What parts of the world eat dolphin?
Japan, I think.
Do they eat dolphin?
I think so.
I know they kill them. That cove documentary is horrible.
So you can buy it at the, at the store.
Really?
Yes.
I want to see dolphin meat on a shelf. Let me see that.
That's like, to me, that's like people meat.
It's pretty, it's pretty, yeah, it's pretty intense. They're very, very smart.