Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1791 - Sadhguru
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1791 - Sadhguru' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2022-03-14. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1791 - Sadhguru

Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
Pleasure to meet you.
How close did this shit be?
Right there, that's good.
Yeah, like a fist from your face is what I usually tell people.
Well, I'm enjoying your book.
Which one are you reading?
I'm in the middle of Inner Engineering.
Oh, okay.
Why is that funny?
Is that a funny one?
No, that was the, I mean, after the three books have come,
so I was thinking you must have gotten a more recent one.
Well, I found some of your stuff online,
and I started watching some of your videos online,
and they're very interesting and very educational.
And then I said, all right, let me find out what this guy's all about.
And so I got into that book.
That's good.
How did you find out about me?
Because your people reached out to be on here.
Well, right now we are on this soil mission.
I brought you a little bit of gift.
It's an Indian mint.
Indian mint?
This leaf.
An empty stomach, if you just chew two leaves, they're not very pleasant to eat.
And then drink some maybe tepid water.
Okay.
It is a great blood purifier.
Blood purifier?
Yes.
Oh.
How does it purify your blood?
How does that work?
It has the necessary juices in it to do that.
The necessary juices.
Safe soil.
Mm-hmm.
I always wondered about these things, about pots that plants come in.
Do you think plants like that?
No, definitely not.
They would like to grow wild.
This is just a baby.
It's in a nursery.
You have to take it home and put it in your backyard.
Okay.
That's what I want to hear.
Or a much bigger pot.
Because once I started learning about mycology and how...
This is not where it would like to grow.
This is just a baby.
Just a baby.
Even a big pot, they don't really like that, right?
They would like to be in the ground.
Ground is best, no question, because there is an ecosystem which has to connect
with it.
There's nothing like the ground.
But because in Texas or in Austin, it could get too cold for her.
Oh.
So she may not survive in your garden, then you have to bring her in.
I don't want her to die.
So wintertime, maybe you will have to bring it in.
So maybe I can pot it outside during the spring and then put it inside.
Winter, you have to bring her in.
Okay.
All right.
We'll work it out.
We'll figure it out.
Because she's Indian, you know.
She's Indian.
Yeah, I know.
I mean really Indian, not Native American.
Right.
They have a lot of Indian animals in Texas, believe it or not.
Really?
Yeah, Axis deer.
It's a very common animal out here.
Really?
Okay.
Yeah, they imported them here.
I don't know when, but they're all over the place.
I saw one like six months ago on the side of the road.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So some things from India survived, but a lot of them died off.
Last year we had a very big freeze that lasted for a couple of weeks and a lot
of exotic animals
from other countries that people brought in.
Unless they're from northern part of India, where it's in the Himalayan region.
They may survive.
Right.
But South Indian animals like me won't make it in winter.
So you're on this grand tour right now, you were saying.
You just got back from, you were in New York, right?
Yes.
I was in, I just came from India two days ago.
Then I was in New York, Tennessee, New York and here and today.
This night I'm leaving for Caribbean because we are making, signing some memorandum
of understanding
with the CARICOM nations for the Save Soil movement.
So they're all coming on board.
We have made a policy document specific for each country depending on their
latitude, soil
types, economic conditions, and agricultural traditions of an individual nation.
Based on this 192 nations, we've made soil policies.
So this is something that you're very concerned about, and rightly so, that
there's a problem
with the topsoil in America in particular that we've been aware of for a long
time where there's
only like, what is, what's the number, like 45 years worth of topsoil left if
we go about
practices the same way?
Generally, most UN agencies are talking about something like 60 to 80 harvests,
which could
be somewhere between 45 to 60 years of topsoil.
But it's not like it's suddenly going to get over one day.
It's not like…
Right.
It's not like a bank account.
It'll start sliding, which is already sliding.
So sliding means on one level there is loss of nutrients in the food, and
another level
the yields are coming down.
We are going on increasing the inputs.
The input cost is going up.
They tell me 50 percent of the American farmers have not seen a dollar in the
last 12 years,
and the highest suicide rate among all professions is among the farming
community in the United
States.
Really?
Yes.
It is so in India also.
I know it's in India and I thought they attributed that a lot to debt.
There are some issues with…
See, but why debt?
Okay?
Why the debt is piling up?
See, the banks give debt only what is suitable for that crop, all right?
It's not like they're going to give you a billion dollars to do some farming.
They're going to calculate and give you.
Why is he not able to pay it back?
He's not able to pay it back.
One main reason is the input cost is going up year on year because the soil
fertility is
going down and the input cost is going up to a point where it's no more
practical to do it.
There was also some sort of an issue with Monsanto, correct?
Those things are there, but…
You don't think that's a big deal?
It would be if it came big time, but Monsanto is not so big time in India yet.
It's not?
No, the policies have kind of blocked it and made it regulated.
So we are not… we have not taken to GMO crops in a big way.
Only a few… a few items we have taken.
Even that people are protesting and generally farmers are aware and most people,
large number
of farmers have rejected it.
So that's a different aspect.
Obviously, the problem is always… we are always seeing whom to hit, all right?
So this is a movement which is not against anybody because in this one thing,
we can all come together
as one.
We may be of different nations, we may be of different racial backgrounds,
religious backgrounds,
caste, creed, gender, whatever, and political ideologies, whatever.
But we all come from soil, live off the soil, and when we die, we go back to
the soil.
Yeah.
The only question we have in our life is, will we get this, that soil is the
basis of our
existence here.
Will we get this now?
Or will we get it when we're buried?
That's the only choice we have.
So having said that… see, people are talking about organic farming.
These are all urban people talking about it.
They've never farmed in their life.
They don't know what it means to do organic farming.
Right now, if the world shifts to organic farming 100%, let's say tomorrow
morning, our
food production in the world will come down to 20 to 25% of what it is right
now.
So that is death for most of the population.
So when they're talking about organic farming, they're talking about farming
with no pesticides,
no herbicides?
No pesticides, no fertilizer, all this.
For this to…
No fertilizer?
Yeah.
Fertilizer is non-organic?
Yes, it is chemical fertilizer, right?
Okay.
But what about organic fertilizer?
That is a manure.
Right.
Okay.
That is…
Organic content is different.
So that's…
So people who are talking about this, it's an ideal life.
Okay?
Right.
The farmer who is doing it for his commercial requirement, will he be able to
conduct his
agriculture in an idealistic way?
No, believe me, I've been engaged with farmers.
It's not like that.
It's like you're eating good food, but if you have yourself checked up, your
doctor may
say, "Well, your calcium is a little deficient, your iron is deficient."
Right.
So take these two pills.
So you took these two pills and tomorrow you felt great.
Then you decided you don't have to really eat food, you can just eat a lot of
these pills
and you will be fine.
That is how we have done agriculture.
We had rich oil in that whatever is deficient, we put a little bit of nitrogen
or phosphate
or something, suddenly the crops burst out.
Then we forgot that we have to put organic content.
We just started putting these salts forever and in 25 to 30 years' time, the
soil becomes
fallow.
Yeah.
There was a book I read years ago called Dead Doctors Don't Lie by a man named
Dr.
Joel Wallach and it talked about mineral deficiencies from topsoils.
It was a big issue and one of the things that he brought up is that people who
grow agriculture
agriculture and have animals have known forever that they have to supplement
the animal's diets
with minerals and that this is primarily because the food that they're getting
is not minerally
sufficient.
Yes.
And that's the same thing with our own food.
Even though you can grow a lot of these vegetables, you're not getting the same
nutrients that
you would if you had rich topsoil.
Not at all.
Not at all.
See, the amount of nourishment or micronutrients that you got from a given
vegetable, let's
say in early 20th century, let's say 1920.
And today what you're getting from the same thing is approximately 10% of that.
10%?
Yes.
90% drop has happened.
Wow.
So it's enough to grow the food.
Especially these studies are available in United States.
Everywhere in the world, there are not enough studies, but it could be a
similar number, if
not the same amount.
It could be something like that, anywhere between 10 to 25%, let's say.
For example, if you ate an orange in 1920, today to get the same stuff, you
will have to eat
eight oranges.
Wow.
So it's simply not practical.
So people think this malnourishment, these problems, and this starvation, these
things
will happen only to Africa or South America or somewhere.
No.
World Food Program predicts that by 2035, there could be famines around
Illinois region.
Illinois?
Yes.
Really?
Because the food that they're eating is deficient in nutrients?
No.
The thing is, the soil has been so used up.
You heard of 1930s, the Dust Bowl.
Yes.
Yesterday, I was in New York and I was talking to somebody there.
So they're saying that some whatever volume, I don't know the volume, but some
enormous
amount of dust came and settled in New York City when the Dust Bowls just came
up.
You know, it just blinded the whole, half the country.
So people are calculating how many whatever million tons or hundreds and
thousands of tons
of dust or soil landed up in New York City.
See, it stopped in New York City because of the tall buildings and stuff.
But how many millions of tons of soil, American soil, went and landed in
Atlantic Ocean?
That you can never calculate, right?
Right.
When farmers are growing these monocrop agriculture, like if they're growing
corn or soy or things
like that, is that part of the problems?
Yes.
It's not enough regenerative agriculture, not enough manure animals grazing on
the same lands?
Monoculture is a basic problem, okay?
And we've gotten into this kind of thing because we are looking at soil like
some industrial
machine that we put in so much and we have to get so much.
But soil is a living thing.
If you take a handful of soil, there are anywhere between seven to ten billion
organisms in it,
anywhere between fifty to seventy-five thousand species of organisms in it.
But now with… we are ploughing with machines, it ploughs anywhere between
twelve to fourteen
inches.
Eighty-seven percent of the life on this planet, including you and me, come
from the first twelve
to fifteen inches of the soil.
But we are ploughing the soil twelve to fourteen inches, leaving it open to
harsh sunlight,
and leaving it like that for months.
That itself is a tremendous damage.
We have taken to this because of monoculture, you crop everything at once.
If it was multi-culture, you would crop one thing, the other thing would be
still there.
And by the time you crop that, another one would have again grown up, you know?
Yeah.
There would be some greenery on the soil and organic activity would be going on.
Micro-organisms w