Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1819 - Cameron Hanes
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1819 - Cameron Hanes' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2022-05-17. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1819 - Cameron Hanes

Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
And Cameron Haynes, author.
How's it feel to be an author?
You've actually been an author for a long time though.
Yeah.
Backcountry bowhunting, when did you write that?
Not really, those didn't really count.
Those were like bowhunting books.
So it's like, I mean, I guess it counts,
but it's different than, this is an actual book book.
This is a real book.
Yeah.
Endure, it's from a real publisher.
Yeah, exactly.
It's legit.
The other ones weren't really like that.
I've had two other books, Backcountry Bowhunting,
Trophy, or wait, Bowhunting Trophy, Blacktail was in 1999
and Backcountry Bowhunting was in 2006.
And then this one is tomorrow, which is today.
If you're listening to this, it's coming out today.
It's Endure and it's got that face of you
from when you were moose hunting.
You have the manliest photo with the cheek cut
and the blood trickling down your face.
When you had that, when the blood was trickling down your face,
were you like, ooh, get some pictures?
No.
This is pretty fucking manly.
I was, so Roy wasn't up there.
That was Roy and I's last hunt,
but he wasn't up there yet.
And I was going through these alders, snow covered,
pretty foggy.
And all it was weird when you're fighting through alders,
they're slapping you in the face and things like that.
And I slipped and there's one that was broke and it was kind of sharp.
And I slipped and it went right on my cheek.
And I was thinking to myself at that time, I'm like, could have taken out an
eye.
You know, that would have been great.
But it just did that.
There it is.
Come on, Ben.
That's probably one of the most badass pictures a person's ever taken.
So I got up.
Thank you.
Selfie.
And I got up there.
And then I got up to the top and was kind of looking around.
And you see it's kind of foggy back there.
And then I didn't know I actually had blood.
And then, yeah.
Did you, like, look at it in a selfie to find the blood?
I had my phone and I looked.
I was like, oh, okay, cool.
Snap a shot of that.
Impress all the fellas back home.
Yeah.
Well, it turned in, it's meaningful because it was an amazing hunt.
It was a hard hunt.
And it was, Roy and I had, you know, it was a hunt we always, it's what we love
to do.
Hard, cold, miserable, grizzly bears, long pack, killed a good bull.
Just loved it.
And this is the last, for people that don't know,
Roy was your good friend who got you into bow hunting who died shortly
afterwards.
He fell while sheep hunting and fell to his death,
which is a lot more common than I thought it was.
I was talking to someone about people falling while sheep hunting.
And you're saying, like, it happens every year.
Yeah.
It's, what I've noticed, because there's a lot of guys I look up to
because of their mountain abilities or hunting or just, they're just, I don't
know,
just people I look up to, if you spend a lot of time in the mountains, there's
risk.
And, you know, eventually it only takes one.
And those kind of mountains, like the sheep hunting mountains are very steep.
It's rugged terrain and it's snowy and cliff.
Sometimes, sometimes, where Roy fell, it was dry at that time.
And it was just, it was just one, because there's a dry side of the mountain.
And then on the north side or the other side, it's cooler.
So there's more snow and the ice, as you mentioned, like where I killed my
sheep on that same hunt in 2008.
That was on the cold side where he fell on the warm side.
It was dry, but it's so steep.
And it just takes one mistake.
And, you know, he'd been up there for years.
Remy Warren was on the podcast a couple weeks ago.
He was telling me a story about sheep hunting that he was guiding, actually.
And he was guiding this woman and she killed a sheep, but it fell on this, like,
ledge on a cliff.
And so he figured, you know, I'll just climb over there and knock it loose.
And then he climbed over there and knocked it loose and then basically had a
panic attack.
And he realized, like, how steep it was and how very dangerous it was.
And then when he got back, the woman was screaming and cussing and hitting him.
You know, don't you ever fucking do that again?
Oh, right.
She was scared.
She was terrified because he almost died.
I mean, he was like, this is the most scared I've ever been while, like,
climbing around on something.
Well, the hardest thing for me is climbing up is way different than trying to
come down.
Yes.
And you can feel and gravity is kind of keeping you against the rocks a little
bit.
It's just different.
You're climbing up.
You're looking for handholds and footholds.
Right.
But coming down.
You can't see.
Everything changes.
Yeah.
And that's what he said.
That was the thing is him trying to make his way back.
He made his way over there, but making his way back, he's like, oh, my God, I
can't go back the way I came.
He was he had to go all the way up.
Oh, right.
And then crest over the top.
And that was the only way he could do it.
I thought that was possible.
Thank God it was possible because he didn't know it was possible.
Yeah.
I mean, if he would have had to try to come down something that sketchy.
What the fuck?
Yeah.
Jesus Christ.
And, you know, falling.
Yeah.
Falling there.
Rocks.
It doesn't take a long fall to be dangerous.
I was reading about this guy who died in front of his family recently on a
vacation.
He was cliff diving and he decided to try to just make this crazy jump and he
didn't jump far enough.
And he hit the rocks and his family was filming him.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
Fuck cliff diving.
Yeah.
Those people are out of their minds.
And, you know, it's like people do things for these, like, quick little weird
thrills.
Mm-hmm.
And I just, I don't understand it for the life of me.
Maybe it's because I know so many people that have gotten hurt doing dangerous
things that I think are maybe more worthwhile.
Yeah.
Like, hunting or, like, you know.
There's a reward at the end.
Yeah.
But, like, when we talk to Andy Stumpf.
Andy, that goddamn psychopath.
Mm-hmm.
He's so crazy.
He's always, like, sending me, like, videos of him skydiving.
Don't you want to try this?
I'm like, no.
No.
Oh, that's even.
Yeah.
But he's in the squirrel suit also.
The squirrel suit's the scariest.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, just amazing.
But, yeah.
People need that thrill makes them feel alive, I think.
I don't get it.
I'm good.
Yeah.
I like if there's, if I'm doing something.
If it's an activity.
If I'm hunting grizzly or hunting buffalo or something like that.
Right.
I'll take the risk.
Yeah.
But, yeah.
Just risk for risk.
It's a little different.
There's a different kind of a thrill being in the wild.
It's weird.
It's hard to describe when people, like, say to me, like,
why do you like hunting?
You know, not just for the meat.
Not just because it's difficult to do.
But there's a thing about being in the real wild.
Like, when we're in the mountains in Utah,
and you know there's big cats out there.
I told you I saw that giant cat last year.
When you know they're out there, too,
there's, like, an extra crackle in the air.
It's, like, every way you walk, it's, like, you're looking around.
And now that I know, now that I saw one, like, within 30 yards,
now I've just got, like, a totally different feeling about it.
Right.
Because I always knew they were there.
Yeah.
But then when you see one, and that's not even the scariest.
The scariest is grizzlies.
Yeah.
Seeing a grizzly bear, I mean, I saw one with Jen up in Alberta.
Yeah.
But it wasn't even a big one.
It was, like, six feet away.
But just the way he looked at me, I was like, oh, my God.
That's so, they look at you so different.
Yeah.
That stare means something.
I mean, there's...
Can I eat you?
Yeah.
You know what they're capable of.
Because to them, that's all they do.
They're measuring risk, reward.
Yeah.
And they're calculating.
Yeah.
Sometimes.
But that, I mean, that unpredictability, that's what...
When you're in grizzly country, like in Alaska, especially at night,
you know, that's where you feel very vulnerable, in your tent.
And knowing that those things are out there, they could be close.
That's tough.
This is a thin piece of cloth between you and a fucking 900-pound enormous
animal.
Yeah.
That's been killing things its whole life.
That was the biggest thing.
One of my first...
I think it was the very first trip I took to Alaska with Roy.
He had moved up there, and we went to Kodiak Island.
Just got dropped off.
And we split up because we like to, you know, call the shots, do our own thing,
just looking for adventure.
Mostly, neither one of us wanted to...
At that time, we were pretty competitive.
So, if we saw an animal, we both wanted to kill it.
Right.
So, to eliminate that problem, we just split up.
Good luck.
And then we'd go make our own luck.
But at night, because it would get dark, you're hunting the rut,
which is late in the year, say, late October, early November.
It gets dark at, I think, 4 in the afternoon.
And then it doesn't get light until...
I mean, I think it's dark 17 hours.
Oh, wow.
And you're just in this little tent, and there's a brown bear on Kodiak Island.
And you're just hunkered down, and what do you do?
Hoping.
Hoping.
Yeah.
It's a long night.
And those...
You know, I saw one the first time there,
and it looked like a Volkswagen bug, like, but on legs.
It's just like...
That's how big it looked.
I was just like, oh, my...
I don't want to see a black bear.
A bug or a bus?
Like a bug.
A bug.
Yeah, yeah.
Like a car.
Like a car.
Yeah, yeah.
Beetle, bug, whatever those are called.
Yeah.
But it looked like that big, but a bear.
So big as a car.
And maybe it was.
Yeah.
It's kind of counterintuitive, right?
You would say, like, why would anybody want to be around that?
But they make the experience more interesting because you are around them.
Yeah.
Because...
It's part of the adventure.
Yeah.
Well, it's also, it's part of the reality of where you are.
Like, you are in an ecosystem, and there's apex predators, and then there's
prey animals, and
then you, every now and then, enter into this world.
In this world, and you're kind of somewhere in between, yeah.
And you're running around, and if you're successful, you get an animal, and
then you're at home,
eating that animal, you know, weeks, months later, thinking about that
experience, and
it brings that experience back, back to you in a weird way.
It's very hard to describe to people, but when I eat a piece of elk, I think of
where
I was when I shot that animal.
Yeah.
For me, it's not, the meat kind of looks like meat.
But for me, where it's really driven home, the reality is when I open the
freezer, and
I see how the packages are labeled, and it'll say, Colorado elk backstrap.
Right.
20, you know, 20.
Or, and I go right back.
Those packages of meat are, capture this memory, this experience, like nothing
else to me.
Yeah.
Because it's like saying, what the animal is, what year it was, and then I
remember that
episode.
Yeah.
Or that experience.
And, uh, a freezer with, with meat in it just does it for me.
And it's not regular meat either.
It's like, you know, I've been talking to Jocko about this.
It's like super food.
There's something about it.
Like for someone who's eaten steak their whole life, and then you eat elk, you're
like, hey,
what's going on here?
Yeah.
Why do I feel so good?
It's like there's something in that meat.
There's like a quality to wild game.
You know, and I think people want to talk about like, you know, whether or not
ranchers use
hormones or antibiotics.
There's a lot of that talk.
I'm not sure if they do or don't.
I don't think I feel that in the meat.
But what I feel is the difference between an animal that is running away from
giant cats
and wolves and bears, and it's just alive.
Yeah.
The meat is alive.
There's some, there's some power to it.
You know, it's a more potent living creature.
And when you eat that more potent living creatu