Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1831 - Colion Noir
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1831 - Colion Noir' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2022-06-14. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1831 - Colion Noir

Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
Good to see you, always good to see you.
I wish I didn't see you so often after mass shootings, though.
Yeah.
Because it seems like so many times when there's a gun control.
Well, you're the first guy I always call.
Because I think you're the very best at explaining gun issues from, first of
all, from a Second Amendment perspective, from an enthusiast perspective, and
also you're a lawyer.
Yeah.
So you understand the law aspect of it better than anybody that I know.
So I always want to talk to you when some shit is going down.
But the current mass shooting, the most recent one, it's like there's so many
of them that it gets to a point where you go, people almost just go numb.
Like they don't know what to do.
And then there's a lot of scrambling and crying out for legislation.
Yeah.
I think it's, you know, one, no one can deny our media does a beautiful job
memorializing everything about every mass shooting in terms of the killer, what
we know about them.
You know, for the most part, almost sensationalizing it.
And so there is something to be said that, you know, someone walking into a
school, somebody walking into a building where you don't expect anything
shooting a bunch of people deserves that type of attention.
I'm not going to be so naive as to say that, you know, I don't get why anybody,
why they cover it so much.
But there is a admitted sense of helplessness when these things happen where it's
like, OK, so what do we do?
What can we do?
I think the the scapegoat route is gun control.
Because I think what it does is it tells it gives us that the immediate gratification
of, all right, we did something, we passed this.
All right, let's move on and hope it never happens again.
The problem is, though, it never touches the underlying issues about why people
would do this.
Like, this is weird.
It's fucking odd.
It's not normal for people who want to go out and just kill as many people as
possible.
Well, not just that, just kill children.
That's even that and that takes it to a whole new level.
Yeah, and this this guy, I mean, obviously, there was something really wrong
with him.
You're out.
I think you're out.
But the the thing about the killing the children is it's like it's that's why
school shootings are so fucked because they're the most horrific version of a
mass shooting.
Because you're going after innocent little kids.
And this was the most evil.
And then there's there's also so much to this one, right?
There's so much to the amount of time that the cops were outside that they didn't
do anything because they didn't want to get shot.
But that's that's just it, too, though, which is the weird thing for me.
So we can acknowledge that in this situation, the same situation that happened
in Florida, right?
The resource officer didn't go in in time when he could have probably stopped
it sooner.
But at least that was one guy.
True.
This is insane.
I mean, how many cops were outside that school?
Jesus.
Enough that they should have probably went in without without saying.
But they were outside for 75 minutes.
Could you imagine?
But that's just it, though, if you think about it.
Like.
The same people, not same people, but then you'll have people who say, OK, well,
we need to we need to limit and restrict these guns.
And like that all that does is force us to depend on people who we've already
established in some a lot of situations aren't necessarily incapable of being
there to protect us or in situations like this, refusing to go in.
Right.
Protect us.
Now, I can see someone coming up on the other side saying something.
Oh, so you want the kids to have guns there, too, so they can.
It's not what I'm saying.
Well, that's crazy.
Yeah.
But what I am saying is that further justifies why we need to have the firearms
that we do have, because at the end of it, when it all boils down to it, the
only person we can rely on to defend ourselves is us.
Right.
Is you.
Somebody walks in his door right now and does something.
The only people in a position to stop it in enough time to make a difference is
me, you and.
And Jamie.
Yeah.
So from that perspective, I try to keep things and break things down to that
simplistic level so people can understand that.
Instead of just kind of immediately reacting to, all right, let's ban this and
let's ban that and let's ban this.
But we are talking about, like you said, a group of officers who stood outside
while kids were being shot and killed.
Those guys should never be cops again.
I'm going to have to agree with you in that regard.
I just don't understand.
Now, this is me not being in Uvalde, not knowing all of the intimate details
about why they stood down.
But at the end of the day, I have a hard time seeing what supersedes there's a
guy in classrooms killing kids right now.
Well, you know about that mom, the mom that was arrested.
Yeah, who went in.
They cuffed her.
She got, they released her.
She went back in, got her kids.
Fuck yeah.
Fuck yeah for her.
Horrible that she had to do that.
But the fact that they cuffed her.
That, that.
That's fucking insane.
That's unacceptable.
That's utterly unacceptable.
I don't understand.
I just don't understand.
I mean, maybe I'm missing something, but nothing has been exposed.
There's nothing that's been explained.
I think there's a part of me that wants to believe, right?
That there was some extenuating circumstance that, that justified.
And I, like, I don't see it.
I can't, my, even my imagination, as vivid as it is, can't think of something
that would substantiate or justify why they hadn't gone in.
Well, it's a perfect storm, right, because we're in a terrible time for law
enforcement in that, you know, all this defund the police stuff has gotten
people very skittish about, like, I know cops that don't want to do things
because they don't want to get in trouble.
Like, they, they, they don't want to show up for things.
They want to wait before they show up for things because they don't want it to
be something that they have to handle because they feel tied up.
They feel like their hands are tied.
It's a balancing act too, right?
Yeah.
Because it's like, we don't necessarily want cops to go in there, not, I don't
mean just in this particular situation, Evaldi, but just having, be completely
let off the leash to the extent that they can do anything that they want
anytime and there'll be no, they can't be held accountable for anything, right?
Yes.
While at the same time, we need them to go in without having to essentially be
attorneys, you know, in the moment, trying to decide.
Like, I was just in Wisconsin, and I was with the USCCA, which is a concealed
carry insurance membership program, and what we were doing was working scenario-based
training.
So they set up this whole, whole situation for me, like, we're in a coffee shop,
I have a girlfriend that I'm talking to, and then a guy comes in, robs the
place, and a bunch of other scenarios that happen.
And because of my knowledge base and things that I'm aware of from a legal
perspective, even in that moment when I'm trying to decide, do I shoot, do I
not shoot?
Because, you know, you ever run Sims?
No.
Sims are like the, they're basically real guns converted into more or less fake
guns, so to speak.
So they shoot these cartridges that hurt like a bitch.
They hurt and they sound, they're really loud, the gun operates the same,
everything's the same, except they shoot these.
It's kind of like elevated paintball, right?
And in this case, we weren't using the actual projectile.
What we were using was, what this did, is an emitted laser instead of actually
shooting a projectile.
But everything else was the same.
It was loud, recall, and all of that stuff.
And so in that moment, I'm sitting there and I'm thinking, all right, when is
it justified for me to shoot?
Now, in that moment, in that scenario, you can only kind of mimic reality to a
certain extent before, you know, you get overwhelmed with the thought of, okay,
I might die.
I have the benefit to some degree to kind of think logically through, okay, if
I shoot now, is it justified?
If I don't shoot now, and so forth and so on.
Are you talking about like from a legal perspective?
From a legal perspective, yes.
And so in that moment, when the guy's in there, he's already shot at one person,
he's about to shoot another person.
I'm like, okay, this is my time to shoot, but he's not shooting at me.
And so I'm like, what do I do?
Can I shoot him and it be justified?
So if you're like, let's say if you go into a store and you see a gunfight in
the store and you see a guy shooting at someone behind the counter and you're
armed.
Yeah.
Are you allowed to shoot him?
It depends.
If he's shooting at people that work at the store.
Well, it depends.
Because if you find out later on that the guy behind the counter pointed his
gun at him and said, I'm going to kill you.
Right.
Imagine if you shot him first.
Right.
So you don't know.
You don't know.
You walk into 7-Eleven, there's a gunfight.
Yep.
You don't know.
And so in that situation, and I'm probably kind of giving away too much
information because the video's not out yet, but I think it's necessary.
So the guy walks in.
He says he's robbing the place.
He hasn't shot anyone yet.
But he starts arguing with another person.
And the other guy is supposed to be like a new concealed carrier.
And then the guy stands up.
He's like, yo, what is your problem?
What are you doing?
And he's kind of angling towards his gun, but he hasn't gone for it yet.
The other guy has a gun, too.
The guy who came in to rob the place.
But he hasn't pointed his gun at anyone.
He hasn't shot anyone.
So at that point, theoretically speaking, you could argue that's just mutual
combat.
Yeah.
So which one can I shoot?
Who's actually endangering who?
Right.
Right.
So I ended up shooting the guy who came to rob the place.
The problem is I shot him in the back, too.
But that was from the standpoint of when I decided to shoot, I know how to
shoot.
So I dropped four or five rounds just naturally into the guy.
He's like, oh, shit.
He turns around because he's getting shocked as I'm shooting him.
So he turns to run.
So is it like a laser that sets off like a haptic feedback?
Yeah.
So you're wearing a vest.
It's called a stress vest.
So you're wearing a stress vest.
And so it sends out a laser every time you hit that person.
And it shocks you.
And does it shock you like a taser?
It's as bad as you want it to be.
Really?
So you could get it to the point where it immobilizes your body?
I don't think it gets that high.
I think it gets to the point where you're like, okay, get this thing off me.
Have you ever been tased?
No.
I haven't either.
But I've watched people get tased.
And I'm curious.
I'm not.
Because some people can just fucking handle it, man.
They can't.
But aren't they usually high?
I don't know.
It's a good question.
I think sometimes they're high.
But how does that stop your body from shutting off due to the electricity?
That is true.
That I don't know.
Because I've seen people just get zapped.
And they just stand there.
And they just pull the shit right out of the body.
Now, I did see this one video.
A guy did that.
The cop was being very patient with the guy.
And he zapped him.
Nothing.
And he's like, all right.
And he zapped him again.
He dropped.
Really?
The second time he dropped.
So I don't know what plays, what part, you know.
I don't understand.
That's outside of my wheelhouse, honestly.
My friend Dana White, he went.
For one of his shows, they all got tasered.
And they felt like their body just shut off.
They just fell over.
See, the funny thing about it is I had the stress fest on, too.
So when I was doing it.
So the whole time, I'm like, I don't want to experience this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So if he hit you, he turned and hit, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm curious to what that's like.