Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1837 - Gina Carano
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1837 - Gina Carano' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2022-06-28. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1837 - Gina Carano

Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
We're up for your first ever podcast, Gina Clown.
Oh my goodness.
What if I don't have anything to say?
You do, I guarantee you do.
How did you avoid doing podcasts for this long?
Just saying no.
Really?
I just tell people I'm kind of just don't know what's ever going to come out of
my mouth.
So it's going to get, I have no idea what we're going to talk about today.
Well, that's good.
It's always better that way.
I mean, we can talk about anything.
We can talk about, well, there was a moment where you were going to come back.
You're the OG.
Oh, well, I mean, gosh, there was.
No, you're the OG.
Thank you.
In terms of women's MMA, who the fuck is more OG than you?
You're the original star.
Well, like, not MMA, but like Lucia Riker.
Yeah, for sure, yeah, and Muay Thai, yeah, and in boxing, yeah, and then there's
Christy
Martin and, you know, a lot of other folks.
And then there was, like, the Debbie Purcells and Aaron.
Anne Wolfe.
Yeah.
There's been a lot of, like, women combat sports athletes, but in terms of MMA,
you're the OG.
Well, I appreciate that coming from you.
That means a lot.
What was it like back then?
Because, like, you were the OG when it was weird to be fighting, and it was
weird to be fighting as a woman.
Yeah.
It was just, um, you would go into the gym, and it was just, well, we started
at Master Totties, so there was a couple girls there that really liked to fight,
but they liked to more look good and the attention that fighting came from.
Oh, yeah.
It wasn't all about, like, the fight.
There's a lot of that now, right?
Now it's like that, but it was like that then, too.
I don't know, a lot of, like, the, what's her name?
Erin, God, is Debbie Purcell and Erin something?
Erin Toehill.
Toehill.
Yes.
So they were actually the people, I would say, that started way before.
Yeah, Erin, she's been around a long time.
And Cyborg was doing it as well.
So.
Tara LaRosa.
Tara LaRosa.
Old school.
Yeah, I can't, I know.
The early days.
We're old.
Yeah, we're old.
But the early days were interesting because, like, you know, there was a lot of
people disparaging women fighting.
Yeah.
You know, including Dana White.
Yeah.
Including most of the guys I trained with, which I love them, but, you know,
even Mark Beecher, he was like, no, get out of here.
I'm not going to train any women.
Okay, fine, I'll train you, Gina.
It'll be cool.
And now that's all he does, you know.
You know, even, let's say, the Diaz boys.
Like, I remember fighting on the same card as Nick Diaz.
And he was sitting next to me.
And, of course, I was just nervous because I absolutely adored him.
Still do.
I think he's amazing.
I just haven't seen him in, like, a decade.
But he was like, you know, we're sitting there before our fight having our post,
you know, weigh-in dinner.
And he was like, you know, I've got to tell you, I don't really like women
fighting.
You can obviously say it like that.
He's like, you know, I don't like what you do.
I don't like women fighting.
And I was like, that's okay.
You know, maybe you're just a little old-fashioned.
And I was like, do you think my dad likes this?
Do you think anybody in my family likes me fighting?
And he was like, no, old-fashioned.
Okay.
So I'm just old-fashioned?
And I'm like, yeah, you just might be a little old-fashioned.
And then he was, like, pulling out my chair and opening my door.
He took it to the next level.
Yeah.
He was, like, so sweet.
I was like, he just needed to be told it's okay.
You don't have to like it.
You know, it's old-fashioned.
So, yeah, some people get disturbed watching women get bloodied up.
That's a big one for some folks.
Yeah.
Was it a thing for you?
It feels different.
Obviously, I'm a big fan of women fighting.
But when I watch a big cut on a woman, it feels different.
Like, if I was, like, Yuri Prochaska in that fight with Glover Teixeira had
this giant cut over his eyebrow, it was a massive cut.
But it didn't bother me.
But if that was you, if that was a woman, it was, you know, Valentina Shevchenko
or something like that, I'd be like, Jesus, that's a big cut.
And honestly, in my perspective, that's sweet, you know?
Wow.
That's nice.
That's nice that you don't like to see women get cut out.
Yeah.
I think that's a really nice, I don't know why women or anybody is trying to
get rid of that.
Well, I get it.
But, I mean, look, if you're going to land elbows, it is a part of the sport.
You're going to get cut out.
It's like people are going to get cut.
Yeah.
It's just part of the game.
But, you know, if you want to say, like, here's a good example.
Like, the last UFC where it was Zhang Weili versus Ioannion Jacek and then
Valentina Shevchenko versus, Jesus Christ, why am I not?
Remembering her name.
Is it the Chinese girl that?
No, no, no.
Valentina Shevchenko had a really tough fight.
Talia Santos.
Which was an amazing fight.
Split decision.
Which could have gone either way.
And a lot of people are like, oh, this card sucks.
I'm like, because of those two fights?
Like, you think the card sucks because two, like, super ultra competitive women
fights that were insane and one of them was a spinning back fist knockout?
Do you have a problem with that?
Yeah, right?
Like, I don't understand where people get off on the internet judging any, like,
when I'm in a building or at a fight when people are booing, it, like, it boils
my blood.
It's like, you get in there and do that, you know?
Until you've done that, then you can, you know, talk about it.
It's just like, do you boo like that at baseball?
Because baseball at its most exciting is not as exciting as two people clenching.
Yeah, maybe the fight fans just need to, like, get a couple more, I don't know,
hot dogs or beers and just sit back and enjoy a little bit.
Well, it's, it's casuals, unfortunately, you know?
And it's a lot of people that don't, they don't appreciate what's going on or
how hard it is.
Look, I can understand some fights where people get bored and they boo,
especially in comparison to some other fights, you know?
I'm, I'm never going to be the one booing.
No, I'm, I'm wouldn't boo either, but, you know, there's some times where it's
just like, oh, Jesus Christ.
And you're at all of them, so.
I'm at a lot of them.
This, this past one was the first one I did.
What do you think happens there, like, with, like, the, you know, when they're
just, you know, nobody's trying to even, like, make, they're just stuttering
and in front of each other.
Like the Rose Namunas fight, like, that last fight?
Yeah, which I'm, I love her, by the way.
I do, too.
Yeah, yeah, I do, too.
Oh, I, I love Carla Esparza, too.
I don't, I don't get it.
I don't know.
I, I, you know, I'm a big fan of Pat Barry.
I love him.
But he was saying something different than the rest of the corner was saying,
you know?
It's like.
It's like kind of when you go into Spar and then you just don't really want to
be there or something and you're not trying to, I don't know, it just isn't
flowing the chemistries off or something.
I think maybe the game plan was make Carla frustrated and take big risks
because she has to win, right?
She has to go after Rose to win.
But there was, like, by the time we were in, like, round three, I was having
this conversation with Cormier.
I was like, who, who fucking knows who won?
Who knows who's winning this?
Because this is, nothing's happening.
Like, it's, when nothing's happening.
This is my number one problem with scoring.
The way we have scoring with MMA, that that could, either one of those rounds
could be a 10-9 round or a round where someone beats someone pretty cleanly and
lands a lot of shots.
Could also be a 10-9 round.
That doesn't make any sense.
Right, right, right.
That's great.
That's, that's a flaw in the scoring system.
Time to update the program.
Yeah, we need a better system.
We don't need boxing system.
We need something that it's, like, it shouldn't have anything to do with 10-9.
It should be, there should be a bunch of factors, like volume, the amount of
strikes, submissions, takedowns.
Damage.
All the damage, all, all, all that shit added up.
And it should be a totally different, I mean, we should have scores, like, 57.
96 for one round, you know, 120 for another round.
Like, that kind of shit.
Yeah.
Because that's more indicative of what's actually happening in a fight than 10-9.
Yeah, that's awesome.
That's how it should be.
Let's make it happen.
How do we make that happen?
Jesus Christ, I don't know.
I've been preaching this for years, and everyone's like, bro, they already have
fixed the system.
Bro, you don't understand the system.
Like, I understand the system as it stands.
What I'm saying is the system as it stands fucking sucks.
Yeah, we can say that, like, over a multitude of subjects as well.
We need to get better systems.
Yeah, yeah, not just for MMA, right?
Yeah.
It's, um, it's interesting, though, like, for you to watch these women become
superstars now.
Like, when you watch Rhonda, because Rhonda was, it was you, and then it was Rhonda.
And you most certainly paved the way for someone like Rhonda.
Like, what was that like?
Um, I don't know.
For me, at the time, it was just, okay, so this, I was going to a college for
psychology.
And I'd show up to, you know, the college classes in full-on pajamas.
I didn't care.
I wasn't paying attention.
I didn't want to be there.
I just, I felt like this is the thing you do after high school, right?
You go to college.
And, um, I don't really think that it did me any favors, because I'm a type of
person that, you know, like, idle hands.
If I'm not interested in doing this, then I'll get into trouble.
And so, um, then we started getting into trouble.
And, um, I guess what happened was Kevin, um, Ross, who you had on your show,
um, and he's, I've known him for 21 years now.
We're like that couple that's always on and off, and nobody, everybody's like,
my family just stopped asking.
They're like, are you together now, this Christmas?
Um, so, so he decided one night to, he'd always wanted to, um, do mixed martial
arts, and he always loved Bruce Lee.
And we were drinking, of course, these 40 ounces of old English, which, I don't
know if you tried one lately.
Oh, yeah.
Old English makes you reckless.
And it's just like, this much of it hurts.
Yeah.
We used to drink full, we used to try to go, I used to get to like a one and a
half.
That is strong stuff.
Yeah, it's, I tried it, and I was like, I cannot believe I used to drink this
poison.
Um, but his dad had asked him, you know, well, I'll, I'll sponsor you for your
first couple lessons if you promise me to put that down.
And that night, he put it down, and he went and started training with a guy
called, uh, Master Tati.
Um, he's this Thai man who, of course, came from Thailand, um, but he went over
to the UK, taught over there, and then he came to the States and, you know,
like, uh, taught people like Angela Parr and John Wayne Parr, um, who came
before me as well.
Um, Kit Cope and all of them, so, um, Kevin walked into the right gym and
learned Muay Thai from the very authentic Thai style, and then I would go in
there, and, uh, Master Chan, who I think is still in Las Vegas, he, I would
walk in, and I'm still drinking and partying and everything, and he was like,
oh, baby, you're fat, you need to lose weight.
And I was like, no, that didn't come from my dad, that came from this Thai man
that has nothing to gain in my life, but to be like, hey, you need to work out.
And so, I immediately signed up for 20 lessons with him, and, um.
So he fat shamed you in your training.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know if you know this, Thais are really good at that.
Are they really?
Yeah, I probably need Master Chan back in my life right now.
If I'm being really honest, like, he's probably like, oh, baby, baby, get back
in the training.
They're so friendly, though, I wouldn't thi