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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'The Possibility of Russia Using Nuclear Weapons' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2022-07-27. Transcript available.

the Joe Rogan experience we are gonna invent forms of weapons using the
artificial intelligence way before we invent something that is capable of the
type of intelligence you're talking about I think you're right and the
opportunities that to blow and the opportunities to destroy ourselves are
gonna be so multiple because the world is getting so much more complicated all
the time yeah right the number of things that can go wrong is much bigger than
in
the past right five thousand years ago there was no technology that could have
destroyed the planet now there is right right and that is going to continue the
our ability to destroy the planet is only going to get greater it's going to
take a
smaller mistake to destroy the planet as technology gets more sophisticated so
you
feel it's just human nature that if we have control of artificial intelligence
the first thing it's going to do is devise weapons of no no no we are gonna
devise the weapons using artificial intelligence before there is any
overarching artificial intelligence that could take care of us do you see what
I'm saying so you're you're saying the kind of artificial intelligence that's
already available not like general artificial intelligence which is what
they think of as like a sentient being yeah yeah yeah I mean like stuff that we
can do tomorrow like YouTube algorithms or whatever I don't think we disagree
so
you're saying that this artificial intelligence that's in place right now that
they already use for a lot of things yes is going to be used and make weapons
it's
gonna be we are overwhelming we're gonna use them and we're to use them on each
other we're gonna blow each other up yes and if we don't artificial general
intelligence is what I'm talking about oh if we don't destroy us I'm sorry I'm
just convinced we are that's all we may you're right we've dropped bomb I mean
whenever talks about anybody talks about anything that anyone's done anywhere
in
the world when they talk about horrific things I always think dude Hiroshima
and
Nagasaki that is insane yeah that was a completely untargeted city in the sense
that like there's not like there's an army there and they're shooting at us we're
shooting no they just nuked cities that the kind of death and destruction that
must have happened on those days to be a person who's an innocent person living
on
this regime in this city and know that the consequences for something that
you've done nothing all you've done is live your life all you've done is work
in a
market all you've done is do whatever the you've been a farmer and then your
entire world is obliterated instantaneously by an atom bomb for the
first time in human history and it's happened to your fucking city yeah well
you know what in terms of the the bombings Hiroshima and Nagasaki weren't
really that big a deal in comparison to the fire bombing in content
comparison to the fire bomb is in comparison to what the Germans were doing in
the Soviet Union I understand but there's a thing about the instantaneous
nature of
those bombs that was uniquely terrifying yeah which is why we haven't used them
yes agreed do you have a fear that Putin would use one a nuclear weapon yes so
when why I was on question time that program of Francis did they asked me this
question and they said if pushed would he use them now my understanding of the
word
pushed is if he feels that his life is in danger that's what I mean by pushed
right
I think in that situation he would he would use them however that does not mean
that they would end up being used he may press the button but the signal might
not
get to the destination you sure I'm saying yes there is a team of it's not just
a
button that releases nuclear weapons there's a bunch of people in between right
right and
and if some of those people think that they have a chance of survival that this
is a personal
thing against the leader what's that what is their rational what is their
rationale for pressing that
button down the line how terrifying because the answer is that few people but
the answer is death
right if you're in that situation you your family your kids is going to burn to
ashes or die in a radioactive
wasteland yes so why would you push that button if you felt there was any
chance of survival at
all that is one of the biggest fucking sources of anxiety for people is the
idea that we're living in this
conflict that we have zero control over that might lead to a global thermonuclear
war at any moment in
time the wrong buttons might get pressed and the wrong people might get mad at
the wrong military
decisions might be get made and someone just tries to fucking do something wild
we didn't really think
that that was a possibility until this ukraine invasion yeah I think the ukraine
invasion opened up
a lot of people's eyes because there's so many people from ukraine that have
relatives in russia and vice
vice versa it's it's not like you're you you you might be at war with your own
people like people that you
are literally related to yeah that's what's crazy my family on both sides it's
wild yeah the idea is wild
and the idea that the the country has such extraordinary control over the
narrative of what the people know
about and hear about it is well eighty percent of russians get their news from
tv and the message is very
consistent and very clear we're about to be attacked uh nato is about to
destroy us uh ukraine's full
of nazis and all of this stuff uh completely baseless but that if you feed
people that line long enough
that's what they're gonna believe how do you think this plays out uh i think
anyone who attempts to
predict this is bullshitting man no you can't predict things like this right
now the situation is russia is
inching forward uh both sides are losing a lot uh i think what uh the russian
strategy is to
uh to wait until winter that's what i'm being told to hold out until winter and
by winter they think they
can persuade the germans to essentially sabotage the western efforts to stop
them i think that's their plan
how that goes how do we know we can't predict that um and in the meantime it
also depends on what's
happening on the ground right it depends on what russia is going to do depends
on what uh the western
powers do in terms of providing weapons and ammunition and all of that uh so we've
got no idea at all
it's so wild and when you hear the government bragging about how much money
they're sending over to ukraine
to help fight the russians it's like maybe you should shut the up about that
maybe that one you
might want to keep under your hat uh yeah oh you mean in terms of talking about
it publicly i mean
i'm joking but i'm saying like the the idea that we're we're essentially paying
for this war so are
we at war or like no at what point in time do you become at war with russia you're
not paying for this
war you're supporting a country that's defending itself i agree but that's i'm
not saying they shouldn't do it
what i'm saying i'm not saying they should i'm just i'm not saying i don't have
an opinion about it's
for american taxpayers to decide that right it's not american soldiers but it
is american money right
so you're funding the war not and again i'm not saying i'm against this yeah
but i'm saying at what
point would someone who knows we're funding that consider us at war with them
they already consider us
at war with them but i mean enough that an attack would be warranted like that
someone would do
something if the united states is so vulnerable i mean if someone just attacked
our power grids
there's a lot of vulnerability in the united states right yeah if they just did
that and shut the power
down for six months i mean how how effective would we be at almost anything
like the whole world is
vulnerable at this point in time with nuclear weapons but but we're we're all
particularly vulnerable
and if there's some sort of an engagement going on like that where we're
funding
and maybe people believe we should maybe we should i don't know but this is
what they're doing is
they're funding this war they're helping ukraine fund this war right at least
and i'm not against
the blowback from i'm not even concerned i'm just saying at what would not just
blow back from russia
blow back from any country where we would do this at how much money do you put
in before they go oh you're
at war with us i see what you're saying yeah i mean if you think about all the
different times we've done
this yeah all throughout history and yeah to aid armies and and fund them and
give them weapons at
what point in time would someone who opposes those people feel like we're at
war with them yeah i see
what you're saying so in russia the narrative is that we've been at war with
the west this entire time
the entire time yeah well this is a defense of action because of nato because
we are quite this is the
russian version you understand i'm not saying i believe this i'm saying that
the the argument not
the perception of the russian people the argument that is being made is that we
are uh you know it's
siege mentality right right and so that's what people there think so from their
perspective they
already feel that we're at war and have done from the beginning now if you're
talking about kinetic war
right then i think if the only way that becomes an issue is if the united
states gets directly met or
nato gets directly militarily involved it's like you start shooting down russian
planes or shooting
russian tanks then then then then of course well but apart from that i don't
see it because you talk
about vulnerability america is the least vulnerable country in the world you're
the world's superpower
but even the world i'm not saying you're not vulnerable oh of course yeah i
know i understand
what you're saying yeah i think um what's terrifying to all of us is that we
didn't expect this and we
we don't know where it's going yeah you know and that it's happening it's it's
it's happening to
this place that used to historically be connected as the soviet union yeah it's
it's fascinating to me
but here's the thing if people are terrified yeah people are terrified in the
uk because we've bought
into this idea that the west has eliminated war you know with a few pockets of
things going on but we're
safe and we don't have to concern ourselves with that about being having
another country you know
being aggressive and invading and whatever else so we've bought into that and
we felt really safe so
safe that we've eliminated it from our minds and this has been an incredibly
sharp wake-up call this has
been a slap to the face around the west and it's what it's saying is you ain't
as safe as you think
you are and the world never and the world doesn't change there will always be
war have you ever you
read anything by thomas soul yes have you read a conflict of visions no he
talks about most of what i've
seen a solo just watched him speak yeah brilliant brilliant um he talks about
two visions of the
world right the constrained what he calls the constrained vision and the unconstrained
vision
and the constrained vision says that human beings are flawed human beings have
certain predispositions
human beings aren't rational human beings that behave the way they behave and
the best way to understand
how they are likely to behave in the future is to look at how they behave now
and how they've always
behaved right right and the unconstrained vision is essentially progressivism
it's the belief that
this can be changed fundamentally right is the belief that if you um if you do
enough social engineering
you're going to get to a position where people are going to stop being the way
that they are and we're
going to build new people a new man this is what people said in the soviet
union homo sovieticus
right a new type of human being can be created and we view the world now
through that vision through
the progressive vision the idea that there would never be war the idea that
people would never want
to attack us the idea that you know when i went to university to study politics
the the thing that was
doing the rounds at the time was they called it the golden arches theory of
international conflict
which was that no two countries with mcdonald's had ever gone to war
right that's hilarious yeah and the idea was everyone's too fat no the idea was
the corporately
involved and they would prevent that there's so much trade going on yeah that
it just doesn't make
sense for countries to attack each other right right because and that is a
belief that human beings are
rational right you believe that people will always act in their own self-interest
as they understand them
right but they don't people act because they want status people act because
they want power
people act because they're scared people act for all sorts of irrational
reasons that don't necessarily
correspond to the reality and i think we also have to take into consideration
that when you're
talking about russia when you're talking about the population they're not as
exposed to information
to the free flow of information as we are in america they there's a lot of
people that might have these
notions in their head based on what they've seen on television they might buy
it hook line and sinker
yeah and there might be good people they're just duped well most people in russia
are good most
people in every country in every country have you ever traveled to a country
where most of the people
were assholes new york new york is a bit like they're a little they're a little
celebratory in their
assholes yeah they are they yeah they call it a new york attitude hey i'm from
new york

The Possibility of Russia Using Nuclear Weapons

the Joe Rogan experience we are gonna invent forms of weapons using the
artificial intelligence way before we invent something that is capable of the
type of intelligence you're talking about I think you're right and the
opportunities that to blow and the opportunities to destroy ourselves are
gonna be so multiple because the world is getting so much more complicated all
the time yeah right the number of things that can go wrong is much bigger than
in
the past right five thousand years ago there was no technology that could have
destroyed the planet now there is right right and that is going to continue the
our ability to destroy the planet is only going to get greater it's going to
take a
smaller mistake to destroy the planet as technology gets more sophisticated so
you
feel it's just human nature that if we have control of artificial intelligence
the first thing it's going to do is devise weapons of no no no we are gonna
devise the weapons using artificial intelligence before there is any
overarching artificial intelligence that could take care of us do you see what
I'm saying so you're you're saying the kind of artificial intelligence that's
already available not like general artificial intelligence which is what
they think of as like a sentient being yeah yeah yeah I mean like stuff that we
can do tomorrow like YouTube algorithms or whatever I don't think we disagree
so
you're saying that this artificial intelligence that's in place right now that
they already use for a lot of things yes is going to be used and make weapons
it's
gonna be we are overwhelming we're gonna use them and we're to use them on each
other we're gonna blow each other up yes and if we don't artificial general
intelligence is what I'm talking about oh if we don't destroy us I'm sorry I'm
just convinced we are that's all we may you're right we've dropped bomb I mean
whenever talks about anybody talks about anything that anyone's done anywhere
in
the world when they talk about horrific things I always think dude Hiroshima
and
Nagasaki that is insane yeah that was a completely untargeted city in the sense
that like there's not like there's an army there and they're shooting at us we're
shooting no they just nuked cities that the kind of death and destruction that
must have happened on those days to be a person who's an innocent person living
on
this regime in this city and know that the consequences for something that
you've done nothing all you've done is live your life all you've done is work
in a
market all you've done is do whatever the you've been a farmer and then your
entire world is obliterated instantaneously by an atom bomb for the
first time in human history and it's happened to your fucking city yeah well
you know what in terms of the the bombings Hiroshima and Nagasaki weren't
really that big a deal in comparison to the fire bombing in content
comparison to the fire bomb is in comparison to what the Germans were doing in
the Soviet Union I understand but there's a thing about the instantaneous
nature of
those bombs that was uniquely terrifying yeah which is why we haven't used them
yes agreed do you have a fear that Putin would use one a nuclear weapon yes so
when why I was on question time that program of Francis did they asked me this
question and they said if pushed would he use them now my understanding of the
word
pushed is if he feels that his life is in danger that's what I mean by pushed
right
I think in that situation he would he would use them however that does not mean
that they would end up being used he may press the button but the signal might
not
get to the destination you sure I'm saying yes there is a team of it's not just
a
button that releases nuclear weapons there's a bunch of people in between right
right and
and if some of those people think that they have a chance of survival that this
is a personal
thing against the leader what's that what is their rational what is their
rationale for pressing that
button down the line how terrifying because the answer is that few people but
the answer is death
right if you're in that situation you your family your kids is going to burn to
ashes or die in a radioactive
wasteland yes so why would you push that button if you felt there was any
chance of survival at
all that is one of the biggest fucking sources of anxiety for people is the
idea that we're living in this
conflict that we have zero control over that might lead to a global thermonuclear
war at any moment in
time the wrong buttons might get pressed and the wrong people might get mad at
the wrong military
decisions might be get made and someone just tries to fucking do something wild
we didn't really think
that that was a possibility until this ukraine invasion yeah I think the ukraine
invasion opened up
a lot of people's eyes because there's so many people from ukraine that have
relatives in russia and vice
vice versa it's it's not like you're you you you might be at war with your own
people like people that you
are literally related to yeah that's what's crazy my family on both sides it's
wild yeah the idea is wild
and the idea that the the country has such extraordinary control over the
narrative of what the people know
about and hear about it is well eighty percent of russians get their news from
tv and the message is very
consistent and very clear we're about to be attacked uh nato is about to
destroy us uh ukraine's full
of nazis and all of this stuff uh completely baseless but that if you feed
people that line long enough
that's what they're gonna believe how do you think this plays out uh i think
anyone who attempts to
predict this is bullshitting man no you can't predict things like this right
now the situation is russia is
inching forward uh both sides are losing a lot uh i think what uh the russian
strategy is to
uh to wait until winter that's what i'm being told to hold out until winter and
by winter they think they
can persuade the germans to essentially sabotage the western efforts to stop
them i think that's their plan
how that goes how do we know we can't predict that um and in the meantime it
also depends on what's
happening on the ground right it depends on what russia is going to do depends
on what uh the western
powers do in terms of providing weapons and ammunition and all of that uh so we've
got no idea at all
it's so wild and when you hear the government bragging about how much money
they're sending over to ukraine
to help fight the russians it's like maybe you should shut the up about that
maybe that one you
might want to keep under your hat uh yeah oh you mean in terms of talking about
it publicly i mean
i'm joking but i'm saying like the the idea that we're we're essentially paying
for this war so are
we at war or like no at what point in time do you become at war with russia you're
not paying for this
war you're supporting a country that's defending itself i agree but that's i'm
not saying they shouldn't do it
what i'm saying i'm not saying they should i'm just i'm not saying i don't have
an opinion about it's
for american taxpayers to decide that right it's not american soldiers but it
is american money right
so you're funding the war not and again i'm not saying i'm against this yeah
but i'm saying at what
point would someone who knows we're funding that consider us at war with them
they already consider us
at war with them but i mean enough that an attack would be warranted like that
someone would do
something if the united states is so vulnerable i mean if someone just attacked
our power grids
there's a lot of vulnerability in the united states right yeah if they just did
that and shut the power
down for six months i mean how how effective would we be at almost anything
like the whole world is
vulnerable at this point in time with nuclear weapons but but we're we're all
particularly vulnerable
and if there's some sort of an engagement going on like that where we're
funding
and maybe people believe we should maybe we should i don't know but this is
what they're doing is
they're funding this war they're helping ukraine fund this war right at least
and i'm not against
the blowback from i'm not even concerned i'm just saying at what would not just
blow back from russia
blow back from any country where we would do this at how much money do you put
in before they go oh you're
at war with us i see what you're saying yeah i mean if you think about all the
different times we've done
this yeah all throughout history and yeah to aid armies and and fund them and
give them weapons at
what point in time would someone who opposes those people feel like we're at
war with them yeah i see
what you're saying so in russia the narrative is that we've been at war with
the west this entire time
the entire time yeah well this is a defense of action because of nato because
we are quite this is the
russian version you understand i'm not saying i believe this i'm saying that
the the argument not
the perception of the russian people the argument that is being made is that we
are uh you know it's
siege mentality right right and so that's what people there think so from their
perspective they
already feel that we're at war and have done from the beginning now if you're
talking about kinetic war
right then i think if the only way that becomes an issue is if the united
states gets directly met or
nato gets directly militarily involved it's like you start shooting down russian
planes or shooting
russian tanks then then then then of course well but apart from that i don't
see it because you talk
about vulnerability america is the least vulnerable country in the world you're
the world's superpower
but even the world i'm not saying you're not vulnerable oh of course yeah i
know i understand
what you're saying yeah i think um what's terrifying to all of us is that we
didn't expect this and we
we don't know where it's going yeah you know and that it's happening it's it's
it's happening to
this place that used to historically be connected as the soviet union yeah it's
it's fascinating to me
but here's the thing if people are terrified yeah people are terrified in the
uk because we've bought
into this idea that the west has eliminated war you know with a few pockets of
things going on but we're
safe and we don't have to concern ourselves with that about being having
another country you know
being aggressive and invading and whatever else so we've bought into that and
we felt really safe so
safe that we've eliminated it from our minds and this has been an incredibly
sharp wake-up call this has
been a slap to the face around the west and it's what it's saying is you ain't
as safe as you think
you are and the world never and the world doesn't change there will always be
war have you ever you
read anything by thomas soul yes have you read a conflict of visions no he
talks about most of what i've
seen a solo just watched him speak yeah brilliant brilliant um he talks about
two visions of the
world right the constrained what he calls the constrained vision and the unconstrained
vision
and the constrained vision says that human beings are flawed human beings have
certain predispositions
human beings aren't rational human beings that behave the way they behave and
the best way to understand
how they are likely to behave in the future is to look at how they behave now
and how they've always
behaved right right and the unconstrained vision is essentially progressivism
it's the belief that
this can be changed fundamentally right is the belief that if you um if you do
enough social engineering
you're going to get to a position where people are going to stop being the way
that they are and we're
going to build new people a new man this is what people said in the soviet
union homo sovieticus
right a new type of human being can be created and we view the world now
through that vision through
the progressive vision the idea that there would never be war the idea that
people would never want
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