Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1861 - Dave Mustaine
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1861 - Dave Mustaine' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2022-08-23. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1861 - Dave Mustaine

Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
Oh, we're up.
How are you?
Dave, what's happening?
How are you?
Here we are, finally.
Yeah.
I'm excited to talk to you, man.
You've had a wild ride for life.
I have.
You really have.
I love people like you.
I always get my hands on the wheel.
Yeah.
No, you, well, you, obviously, you're here, right?
Yes, sir.
Yeah.
And what a fucking wild ride, though.
I mean, everything, your religious background, being the first Metallica, I
mean, it's pretty
wild.
What is it like, like, looking back?
Does it seem, I mean, being a part of Megadeth and being a part of Metallica,
like, you're
rock loyalty.
Thanks.
Thanks.
I, you know, first off, thanks for having me on.
My pleasure.
It's, it's, it's, uh, I'm stoked to be here.
And, uh, um, yeah, what, what's, what was it like?
Uh, there's, there's so much to explain.
Uh, of course, you, you know, being in showbiz, that there's different degrees
of, of, you know,
how excited you can get.
And then you have one of those days and it's like, yeah, shit, it'll never be
better than
this.
And then, you know, keep working hard.
You keep applying yourself, associating with the right people.
And, uh, there's always going to be another level.
My sensei, uh, out in California, I used to train with Sensei Benny the Jet,
you keep
this.
And he would say.
One of the all-time greats.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's my first, my first black belt came from Sensei Benny.
That's amazing.
Were you at the Jet Center?
Yeah.
I was in, I'm number 17.
So when I went to California, that was one of the first places I went to, I
wanted to
go to the comedy store and I wanted to go to the Jet Center.
That got ruined in the earthquake.
Yeah.
I was there right afterwards.
Oh, that's smart.
And when the rains came, the, the roof was all fucked up and they wound up
having to close
the place down.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Then he had a place in North Hollywood for a while that I went to.
Yeah.
That was over by Vaughn.
So I went there a couple of times, but just didn't have the magic that the Jet
Center did.
You know, knowing, uh, Bill Superfoot Wallace and Chuck Norris and all these
greats
had gone in there.
And Blinky Rodriguez.
Blinky, Blinky.
I was really close to Blinky.
My wife, uh, had trained with, uh, Sensei Lily Rodriguez too, before her
unfortunate passing.
I met her as well.
Yeah.
She was a badass.
She beat.
Why did she pass?
Uh, she, uh, it was probably in the last 10 years or so.
I remember that, uh, there was a lot of talk about her and June Castro at the
time about,
you know, who was the toughest and she had fought June and June broke her leg.
And, and I can't remember how long she had continued to, to, uh, uh, defend
herself before
she stopped.
I think actually someone stopped it, but yeah, just amazing stories of
resilience in that family.
It really gave me a lot of encouragement and, and a lot of the drive to get out
of the mess
that I was, uh, no doubt going to end up in if I hadn't, you know, fallen in
love with the art.
Found something like that.
And what a great place to do it too, because that, that family, those people,
Benny, Blinky,
Lily, all those people that were attached to them too.
That's a giant part of the history of kickboxing in America.
I mean, they were the elite of the elite.
Benny was the baddest motherfucker ever during his time.
Yes, he was.
People don't realize.
You go back and watch those tapes of Benny Arquides when he was young.
Like, it's kind of like lost on some people for some reason, but he was
phenomenal.
It's sad to watch how he dismantles people.
There was a fight that I, I have one of his tapes, I have all of his tapes, but,
uh, one
in particular that I really liked.
He'd gone to Thailand and he was, uh, fighting a guy.
He said, look, I'll come to your country, fight your rules, your champ, your
ring, whatever.
And he went there and, you know, uh, all I can compare it to is in Star Wars
where they
have those guys with the big hat, you know, the big forehead, the Klingons,
whatever they
are.
Yeah.
Sensei Benny had kicked him, uh, in, across his forehead with a shin kick so
many times
that his whole entire forehead just, uh, had this contusion on it.
Looked like, like, almost like a Darth Vader helmet, you know, after he'd had
his head, and
it was, in a way, I guess, you know, maybe he was taunting him a little bit,
you know,
just, uh, um, you know, slapping him around on, on, on TV because it was in
front of, uh,
the, the whole nation had shown up there to, to watch this fight.
But, uh, I, I guess he's had a lot of fights like that.
I heard that the, the story about Frank Dukes was actually about Sensei Benny,
too.
Did you ever hear about that one?
No.
Well, the Frank Dukes thing was kind of a hoax, right?
Like, he'd claimed to be a part of some kumite that was proven to not really
happen.
Is that, what, what was the exact story?
Okay.
So, uh.
Because I know they tried to make it into Bloodsport, right?
They did.
Yeah.
But it's not true.
But they tried to.
Well, from what I know, this is, this is what I know, uh, what I was told.
So, I don't know how accurate this is.
But I heard from the people who participated in this whole thing.
So, what had happened was, uh, the movie was Jean-Claude Van Damme and, um,
Frank Dukes.
Uh, I was told that, uh, Frank Dukes wasn't the guy who had actually, uh, been
the fighter
in that.
And that it was Benny the Jeyukidus.
And that when, um, he had come home or something, he had his school in the Los
Angeles area,
Simi Valley area, somewhere like that.
And, uh, uh, Sensei Rubin, uh, Benny's older brother, and, uh, Sensei, uh,
Arnold, his other
brother.
He had nine brothers and sisters.
They were all black belts.
Oh.
And, um, his mother was a professional wrestler and his dad was a professional
boxer or vice
versa.
One was a boxer, one was a wrestler.
What a terrible house to break into.
Oh, my God.
You know, he, that, uh, Sensei Benny used to tell me that when the kids would
get in fights,
the dad would say, go outside and fight barefoot in the stickers.
And I thought, wow, that's, talk about getting toughened up.
Cause he used to tell me he would get his teeth worked on without any, uh, Novocaine.
And, and I was saying cleaning, right?
No, they just, yeah.
And, and, and so I was, I could, couldn't do that.
I, I drive past Dennis, Dennis offices and I get freaked out.
I know Benny participated in some kind of a mixed rules, Kumite type situation.
And I think if I'm not mistaken, I think it was in Hawaii.
See if you can find that out, Jamie.
The, the story with Dukes though, when, when Arnold and, and, uh, Ruben, um,
they had gone
to Frank Duke's school and they, this is what the family told me.
They walked in, they locked the door.
There was a student or two there.
They told him you need to leave.
The students left and they went in the back office of Frank's dojo.
And this is what I heard, you know, and I, and I'm not saying this to draw
Frank Dukes
out of, uh, retirement or anything like that.
You know, that this, this is what I heard, um, is that, uh, when our, Arnold
and Ruben
went in there, he, he freaked out and kind of lost control of himself and, and,
uh, that
they had words and, and fortunately there were no fisticuffs, but that was the
story.
And so when I watched it again, it was really neat to think that, you know,
Jean-Claude
Van Damme was portraying Cincy Banny instead of this other person.
So I'm confused about the story.
So Benny and someone else went to visit Frank Dukes.
Ruben, Ruben and Arnold went there because it was Benny's story.
Oh, I see.
So Ruben and Arnold went there to confront Frank Dukes because Frank Dukes had
ripped off
Benny's story.
Right.
That's what I was told.
And this is Benny's story that was about the Kumite that we'd, but it wasn't a
real
story.
Did he really rip off the story?
It's just, he kind of made something up, right?
Well, I'm not saying he ripped anything off.
What I'm saying is that's what I was told.
The story was about that, that it wasn't Frank.
It was Benny.
I knew a dude who faked a Kumite.
It's a crazy story.
He, uh, he told a friend to drive him to the woods and he said, and I come back
in a
day.
I'm, I'm fighting in like a secret karate tournament.
So he goes off in the room and he brings a bag with him, right?
Like a duffel bag.
And then a guy comes back a day later to pick him up and no duffel bag.
But now he's got a trophy the same size as the bag.
Oh, wow.
He said, he said he won a karate tournament in the woods.
Did he take the trophy out there and bring it back?
Yes.
What a dog.
It's hilarious.
How people don't understand?
I think that before the UFC, before we got to watch mixed martial arts, meaning
like an
Aikido guy could fight a judo guy or a wrestler guy could fight a karate guy.
Before we saw that, we didn't know what was the best art.
We didn't know.
And then there was a lot of like speculation, but very few mixed rules
engagements.
Like there was judo Jean LaBelle fought a boxer once and he made the boxer wear
a gi and he
just took him to the ground, strangled him unconscious.
Ali.
Yeah.
There's Ali and Inoki.
They had that weird thing where Inoki's on his back and he's kicking him in the
legs.
But there was very few of those.
So you could have room for like some person who pretends that they fought
overseas.
There's no internet back then.
Some person who fought and, you know, beat the world in some sort of a, you
know, to the
death tournament.
So there was a lot of those kooks out there.
Yeah.
So that story, I mean, that's not even really based on Frank Dukes' version of
what he says
happened.
It's just kind of Hollywood corny, right?
Yeah.
Well, that happens with a lot of those movies.
So obviously, but just when it comes to reality though, like Ben Iarkides was,
uh, he was
a real important force in the early days of kickboxing, particularly in America.
One of my favorite, um, uh, martial art choreography, um, uh, things that he'd
ever done was with
Roadhouse.
Um, you know, I had-
Oh, he choreographed that?
Yeah.
I skydived with Patrick Swayze and I knew that he was, uh, Dalton in Roadhouse
and there
was a couple of moves at the very end, you know, when he was tacking that up.
He was tacking that other guy, the bad guy and he does this cross punch on the
inside
of his knees and blows out the guy's knees.
And I thought, uh, I just learned that last week, you know?
So it was really cool to see this stuff applied in this, uh, almost, you know,
like fight to
the death, Kumite.
Yeah.
So I, I mean, I don't know how many people know what Kumite means.
Uh, so for people that don't know what that means, it's a death match.
So, um, I know there's going to be some people out there that aren't going to
know exactly
what that means.
I think the word Kumite just means sparring.
Yeah.
It just means fighting.
The, um, the red sash, uh, Oh God, what is that called?
When they do, what is, what is the word when they go, uh, two guys go, one
comes back.
That's a death match.
Do they have those or have they had those?
I'm sure people have had them.
Yeah, of course they do.
I'm sure over the course of history, people have decided to, to karate fight to
the death.
Absolutely.
I'm sure they did.
Yeah.
But I think the word Kumite doesn't mean that though.
I think it just means fighting.
Yeah.
Right.
Well, that's what I was asking you.
So, yeah, I'm pretty sure it does.
You know, I, that's a Japanese word.
I came from a Korean martial art background originally.
So I don't know that much about it.
Kumite, martial arts, freestyle fighting.
So sparring, literally sparring.
Okay.
What does death match say?
Is there a, a Japanese term for karate death match?
Yeah.
I had heard of it.
That'd be a good name for a band.
Yeah.
Karate death match.
What year?
Get that website.
What did, what year did you start martial arts?
I was 12.
Wow.
I was 12.
I was, uh.
So you, you h