Name: JRE MMA Show #129 with Gordon Ryan & Mo Jassim
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JRE MMA Show #129 with Gordon Ryan & Mo Jassim

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All right, what's happening?
Not much.
Good to see you, good to see you.
Mo, introduce yourself.
My name is Mo Jassim.
I'm the head organizer of ADCC 2019.
And for people who don't know what ADCC is, Abu Dhabi Combat Club.
When was that founded?
In 2000?
No, 1998.
98?
Inaugural one.
That was the first one.
Yeah, way back in the day.
That's pretty wild.
When you think about the UFC starting in 93, and that's where everybody really
got excited
about jiu-jitsu.
And then Abu Dhabi only five years later.
Yeah, because, I mean, the owner and creator...
Pull this sucker right up your face.
It moves around.
You can grab it.
Is that okay?
Yeah, perfect.
Hold on one second, sorry.
What's mine?
I'm not recording.
It's a mic on accident.
Oh.
Wrong one.
Start again?
No, it's good.
Did you record it at all?
But was he recorded before?
I was just going through the wrong input.
I have it on a different thing.
I'll take care of it.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
All right.
We're good.
So, 1998 it started.
And why did they...
No Gi back then was very unpopular.
100%.
It's sort of an interesting story how it started.
So, the owner and creator of ADCC is Sheikh Tachnoon.
And he was going to college in the 90s in San Diego.
UFC comes out in 1993.
He gets hooked on it.
And he just starts training.
Walks into a jiu-jitsu school in San Diego and starts training.
He hides his identity.
No one knows who he is.
Not even his instructor.
He just goes by the name of Ben.
And then...
That's pretty gangster.
Yeah.
Like, literally no one knows who he is except a few people.
So, he graduates, I believe, in 1995, goes back, and then tells everybody who
he actually really is.
And, you know, he starts creating this rule set.
And you're right.
No Gi back then was just pretty much non-existent.
So, he went against the grain.
And he did something interesting, sort of like what the UFC did.
You know, the original UFCs, it wasn't mixed martial arts.
It was art versus art.
And that was the concept of ADCC.
Judo guys versus jiu-jitsu guys versus sambo, et cetera, et cetera.
So, he created this rule set.
And then, 1998, the first ADCC happened in Abu Dhabi.
It was really interesting because back in the day, it was frowned upon to have
no Gi competitions.
Like, Brazilian jiu-jitsu guys wanted you to train and compete only in the Gi.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You started in the Gi, right?
I started in the Gi.
The first, like, two and a half years was only in the Gi.
And then, I made a transition to no Gi.
When year did you make the transition?
So, I started in 2011.
So, 2014 is when I really started to make the transition.
And then, by, like, late 14, 2015, then it was, like, pretty much all no Gi.
Because I didn't have any Gi training partners.
Eddie Cummings, Gary, like, all the competitors at Henzo's.
At least, John's students were all no Gi guys.
Eddie Cummings, has he vanished?
I have no idea what happened.
I went to his Instagram the other day to see what he was up to.
He posted, like, three years ago.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He stopped training with us.
And then, he was training for a while at Unity.
And then, I haven't talked to him.
I don't even know if he's still training.
Like, he had a PhD in physics.
So, I heard he, like, started teaching again.
He's got, like, a normal job now.
I have no idea.
So, maybe he's trained, maybe he doesn't.
But, he definitely doesn't compete anymore.
So, weird.
He was so talented.
He was.
He was.
He went in and was crushing EBIs and had really good, tough ADCC matches.
He had that super close match against Tankinho.
And then, yeah, he just, like, after the EBI with Gio, where he lost to Gio, he
just, like,
we didn't see him anymore after that.
Wow.
Crazy.
But, you know, it's such a wild sport.
And, it does so much damage to your body.
You know, so many guys.
I mean, everybody that I talked to years later, like, oh, I got two discs
replaced in my neck.
I got this going on.
I got that going on.
Because, everything we do is concave shoulders, like, with the shoulders coming
forward.
I, like, can't lift my, I can't do, like, anything overhead.
I can't, like, wash the back of my neck because my shoulders are just, I'm
always inverting doing this.
It's, like, anything like this I can do.
But, I can't bridge, like, trying to scrub my back of my head.
I'm, like, can't get my shoulders back there.
So, it's just, like, all a mess.
And, I'm only 27.
So, once I'm 40, I'm going to be fucked.
But, I think you could probably fix that.
Yeah, I could.
I'm just lazy.
I'm just, like.
You saying you're lazy is hilarious.
That is hilarious.
Every day, I go to watch, like, John teach.
And, I'm, like, just sit up straight.
And, then, I do it for, like, 30 seconds.
I'm, like, my back is tired.
And, then, I just, like, end up sitting like this the whole class.
My fucking head's, like, leaning forward.
I'm, like, oh, my God.
Yeah, you got to wonder, like, what.
I mean, who's been able to do it the longest?
Like, what's the longest running, like, competitor?
I would say there's Andre Galvao.
I mean, Andre, yeah.
I would say Andre.
Because, I mean, he's competing, what, since he's 16?
He's been at the highest levels for 20 years.
You know, I saw him in the early 2000s.
There was a documentary called Arte Suave.
He was a brown belt back then.
This was, like, 2001, 2, or 3.
And, here he is.
How old is Andre now?
He's got to be close to 40, right?
I think he's 40.
I think he'll be 40 for this ADCC.
Is that his last one?
Well, last year was supposed to be his last one.
But then he came back for this one.
So, I'm going to plan to make sure that it's his last one.
When you do these matches, since you've been doing these no-time limit matches,
like the Felipe match, which I think you really shine in those matches,
but that's really for the cognoscenti.
You know, that's really for the hardcore people that want to see.
It's not spectator-friendly.
Right.
It's just to determine who's better at jiu-jitsu.
But no-time limit matches for spectators are just atrocious
because who the fuck wants to watch four as at jiu-jitsu?
Like, most people don't want to watch ten minutes at jiu-jitsu.
Right.
So, who wants to watch, like, a two-hour match?
But they're important to have sometimes just to show who's the best
because you actually have to do jiu-jitsu and know how to do submissions.
Well, not in the Felipe match because there wasn't a submission.
But you have to be better at jiu-jitsu than the other guy.
There's no stalling and playing tactics for ten minutes and winning by
advantage or two points.
So, they have their place, but to build the sport to a spectator sport is not
– no time limit's not the way.
Well, it's not the way for spectators, but it is the way, as you said, to
determine who's the best.
And I think that's supposedly what jiu-jitsu is all about.
Really, the early days of the UFC, there was no time limits because it was just,
like, who wins?
And that's the purest form of any martial art.
It's like, you know, as soon as you have rounds, then you have people gaming
the system.
They try to win the round by sprinting the last 30 seconds and really going
hard or, you know,
trying to figure out a way to manage your time.
You can't really do that if there's no time limit.
Yeah, which I think that has a place, too, like points and rounds and stuff
because then you have the whole tactical element which comes into play.
But I think there's a place for both, for sure.
But spectator – spectators definitely need a time limit.
They want to know, like, when this is going to be over.
It would be fucking wild, though, if all UFC fights had no time limit in this
day and age.
I mean, they would be brutal.
Yeah.
Didn't Hoist have, like, an hour and something match with Kimo, I believe?
I don't think it was that long.
It was, like, something ridiculous.
It was pretty long, but only – I don't think it was that long.
Okay.
I don't – find out how long the Hoist-Kimo match was.
I think it just seemed long because it was so crazy.
Because he was finishing everyone so fast.
And then he was against Kimo, and it was a little bit longer.
Tom Erickson had a match with Murillo Bustamante back in the day
in one of the weird, you know, like, offshoots.
One of those little small companies that tried to make a big, like, an MMA
event.
I think it was a no-glove event, too.
It was back in those days.
And I think that match went, like, an hour.
Wow.
Yeah, and, you know, Murillo Bustamante was 185 pounds, and Tom Erickson was
300 pounds.
Yeah, he was a monster.
I remember Tom Erickson.
There's a weird sound.
Do you hear that?
What is that, Jamie?
What?
That sound?
What sound?
You don't hear it?
No.
I hear, like, a feedback.
You don't hear it?
You guys hear it?
You guys don't hear it?
No.
Maybe it's just my headset?
Hold on.
Yeah.
All right.
I'll deal with it.
But it's just, again, it's not fan-friendly.
Yeah.
I had my match with Keenan was an hour and 45 minutes, my first match.
That's my longest match, yeah.
Hour and 45 minutes.
Yeah.
How'd that end?
That heel hooked him.
Yeah.
That's actually an amazing story we have to go over.
Yeah.
That's how me and Mo first met.
Yeah.
He hired Keenan to beat me up.
So it was only four minutes and 40 seconds.
So it was really, like, one round in the UFC today.
Oh, wow.
I feel like that was just, it felt, like, so much longer because Hoist was
finishing everyone,
like, the first, like, minute.
He would just, like, hit a double leg and then strangle them when they turned
around.
It was also so chaotic.
And then, you know, it was so crazy because Keemo came in carrying a cross.
Like, remember he had a cross on his back?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Like, a giant wooden cross, like, walked in with it.
Joe Son, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Joe Son, yeah.
Yeah, I remember.
And that was one.
I remember when Keith Hackney was just punching him in the balls.
Yeah.
Those original UFCs were, those were really no rules.
They were pretty crazy.
Yeah.
But, you know, that's, uh, that's really the birth of Jiu-Jitsu.
I mean, that's where, for people in America, that's where they recognize, like,
oh, my God,
I don't know shit.
That's what got me into Jiu-Jitsu.
When I was, like, seven, eight years old, I was watching the UFC and it just
happened to
be a Hoist Gracie tribute.
And there was, like, all the reruns of the early UFCs.
And I was, like, yeah, I'm gonna fucking do that when I get older.
And then, like, for the longest time, I, like, wouldn't train.
I'll just, like, hear, like, I'll hear Joe, like, breaking down how to do a Kimura.
He's, like, oh, yeah, he needs to get his left hand here.
And I, like, go with my buddy the next day.
I'm, like, fuck yeah.
Like, shit works.
I'm, like, fucking doing Kimura's and my fucking friends and shit.
It's really amazing how one martial art was, if you look at all the other
martial arts,
every, you know, everybody wanted to be like Bruce Lee, the small guy who could
beat everybody
else.
But in reality, the bigger people win.
Like, in any kind of fight involving striking and size and speed, it's just
such a giant advantage.
Jiu-Jitsu is really the only thing where the smaller person actually can
dominate a bigger
person.
Yeah.
I agree 100%.
I was actually thinking about this recently.
I don't know any other combat sport where you could have two elite level
athletes and a 60,
70 pound weight advantage and the smaller guy wins consistently.
Right.
In absolutes.
Yeah.
I mean, look at what's his name.
We actually, so we're doing the Hall of Fame for this ADCC, the inaugural one.
So I had to look up the stats.
The highest submission rate in ADCC is Marcelo Garcia.
Right.
89%.
That's pretty crazy.
And he was submitting Rico Rodriguez.
Guy's 100 pounds heavier than him.
Rico Rodriguez, who was a UFC heavyweight champion at one point, he heel hooked
him.
And remember, that was after he took Rico's back and then Rico slammed him.
Remember, he l