Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1885 Andy Stumpf & Mike Sarraille
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Joe Rogan Experience #1885   Andy Stumpf & Mike Sarraille

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So tell me about your dip problem.
Tell us about your disgusting mouth.
Is this how I start?
Yes.
So, you know, you talked about high school.
You did in high school.
I did it one time.
He's got to turn it on to you.
You did it one time.
One time in high school and never touched it again.
Go ahead, Mr. 19 years.
Mike was just saying that he had to get his skin grafted.
And he's like, you did it once.
Well, I remember the first time I did it.
Somebody gave me Redman Chaw.
And it was over.
I was just yakking everywhere.
Where I started was in the Marine Corps.
When we're in a hide site, you have to stay awake when it's your turn for
security.
But that could be like 3 a.m. in the morning after you've been hiking for like
six hours.
So eventually, my team leader was like, you're going to put a dip in.
To do whatever it takes to stay awake during your watch.
Does dip keep you awake?
The nicotine does.
It should.
But dip will?
Yes.
Absolutely.
And so it morphed from there in the Marines.
And we lived, I like to say we lived off of three things on deployment.
Water, coffee, and dip.
And even on a patrol with these guys, I would have a dip in, chewing caffeine
gum, and drinking
water.
Super healthy.
I'm going to send this to Brendan Chubb.
Because that motherfucker keeps, he has those little pouches.
They're so nasty.
He keeps four or five of them in his mouth at a time.
He looks like a squirrel.
Like he's got a little, like he's storing nuts.
Well, no, I'm going to get grafted.
So you have to have skin grafted?
So they take the tissue from the top of your mouth and then graft it to the
bottom of the
teeth because it's receded quite a bit.
Hold on.
One second.
Sorry.
Are you good now?
Okay.
So what did it do to your mouth?
I think after 19 years of, so I did switch from long cut to pouches and then
pouches are.
Like that makes a fucking difference.
There was a logical progression.
I switched from beer to vodka.
It's totally fine, guys.
I went from heroin to pills.
So the intent was long cut to pouches, and pouches you would wean yourself off,
and that
did not work.
And so what is it?
Is it rotting your gums?
It just recedes your gums.
It doesn't rot your gums, but it recedes it.
Wow.
So you have yuck mouth.
I don't have yuck mouth.
Let me see.
Let me see it.
How bad is it?
First off, I'm here just to debunk or fact check anything that Andy says.
Andy, people know you.
Andy Stump.
Mike, please introduce yourself.
Tell you how you know that's degenerate.
Yes, absolutely.
I'm actually embarrassed.
Mike Cirelli, born in California as well, enlisted in the Marine Corps, was a
recon Marine
and a scout sniper, and eventually crossed over to the SEAL teams as an officer
and retired
after 20 years like Andy.
We served at the same place, but I've got to tell you about the first time I
met Andy.
Because people ask me, like, what's Andy Stump like?
Because I meet people that are like, oh, Andy Stump.
I'm like, he is a real dick.
Andy?
Andy is a dick.
It's always been nice to me.
How weird.
Yeah.
I don't remember the story.
Always been a good friend.
Always been friendly.
The story he's about to tell.
Great sense of humor.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
Handsome guy.
A little reckless.
So we're at SEAL Team 3, and SEAL teams are younger.
The average age is what?
I think like 19 to 23.
At a conventional team?
Early 20s at best.
Early 20s at best.
And so, you know, there's a bunch of officers in the operations room at SEAL
Team 3, and
we're talking, there's a lot of groupthink going on.
We're bad-mouthing the leadership on a decision that was made.
And all of a sudden, this guy walks in, who's got just a, he's in his uniform,
which is rare.
He must be checking in.
He's got this big stack of ribbons to our two rows of ribbons.
And we're talking.
He's listening, and we sort of see this guy in the background.
And which was odd was he, you stepped in, and you're like, I think you're all
wrong.
And he killed us with logic.
Because remember, each of us has like two combat deployments at this point.
We think we have it all figured out.
And Andy's coming in with his eight combat deployments and just destroys us.
What were you guys wrong about?
Everything.
What were they saying?
I don't even fucking remember this interaction.
He could be making this all up.
No, it's not.
So, I forget the subject, but two of us left the room.
And I remember, I can't remember if I looked at him or he looked at me, and he's
like,
was that guy a dick?
And I'm like, yeah, he was a major dick.
But was I right?
You were right.
I think that was the problem.
That was wrong.
What were you guys wrong about?
So, you know, you get a little experience.
It's like the Dunning-Kruger effect.
You get a little experience under your belt, and you think you have everything
figured out.
And for a young SEAL, whether enlisted or officer with two combat deployments,
you think you're
the top dog.
The way the conventional SEAL teams work is that's a lot of combat experience
for the conventional
SEAL teams.
But he was coming from a different side, a side we all knew about, but knew
very little
about.
And we held them in high regard, because that's the 2%.
He walks into the room, and we knew once he stepped up, it was wrong.
But testament to Andy, he had a reputation for going against the group think,
and the SEAL
teams have a lot of group think.
That's the easy answer, is just to get on board.
We still haven't gotten to what you guys were wrong about, though.
Do you remember?
I cannot recall.
All I recall is the incident.
Do you remember being wrong?
But it was about combat, and we thought we had it figured out, and he came in
based off
of his vast experience, or vaster than ours, much faster.
You know what's interesting, though?
Two combat deployments at a conventional SEAL team is four years, because you've
got to
do an 18-month workup, six-month deployment.
Maybe they'll push you out to 12, depending on what's going on operationally.
The deployments that I came back with was like three and a half years' worth.
So the velocity that I was getting the experience was just crazy different in
the compressed
nature of it, because it would be overseas for 90, back for 180, overseas for
90, back
for 180, and just constantly going and going and going and going.
So about the same amount of time, but four times the amount of experience.
Wow.
Yeah.
I will say, the guys, I left SEAL Team 3, and I went to where he was coming
from when
I called back, because they were on deployment in Afghanistan, they're like,
dude, that guy
rocks.
I mean, because he brought all this experience, all the planning experience,
and you basically
embedded in a platoon.
It was amazing.
I got a .300 Win Mag, a Javelin missile, and I just was laying heat down with
both of those
things.
It was awesome.
They would say, what high ground position do you want to go to?
I'm like, this one looks good right here.
So the guys, and after I heard that, the guys loved him.
I, you know, first impressions, I was totally wrong, but how often does that
happen?
Especially in the SEAL teams where you meet a guy for the first time, and you're
like,
I hate that guy.
Well, I got to think everybody's like super alpha, hyper aggressive, and also a
little bit
of combat experience, full piss and vinegar.
And everything's a competition.
Everything is a competition.
Almost to a detriment.
Yeah.
How do the teams balance out that with camaraderie?
The competitive with each other, but also camaraderie.
Like, how do you avoid the internal conflict?
So I think there's a line you don't go beyond, but, you know, you look at the
civilian populace.
One of the things that they totally lack is something called shared adversity
that we have in spades.
And, you know, with guys you rolled with for years, you could not see them for
10 years.
You see them all of a sudden.
It's like you saw each other last week.
Right.
When you go through BUDS or you go through the hard training, because BUDS is
not the end
of the hard training, there's this homecoming belonging, this relationship esprit
de corps built
that will never die.
And so while we promote competition, it pays to be a winner, as we say.
There's a line at which if somebody wins, if Andy wins, the question now is,
okay, Andy,
what did you do differently than us?
And share that, you know, transfer that knowledge to us so that we can elevate
our game as well.
So we understand, you know, Proverbs, was it 27-17?
Are you asking me?
I have absolutely no idea.
Iron sharpens iron as one man sharpens another.
So you understand that.
But we understand competition makes the world go around to a point.
To a point.
To a point.
But at the end of the day, he's going to enter a room.
Well, first off, I'm an officer.
Nobody, I wasn't entering any rooms.
He was for most of his career.
But, you know, I might be on his back and he's trusting me.
So if he's got knowledge, he's going to transfer that knowledge to me in
training before we go to war to make sure that I'm the very best to cover his
six.
The thing about things like whether it's SEALs or any high-level military
operation group, whenever you're dealing with people that have done something
that's extraordinarily difficult, there's like a rite of passage you guys have
gone through that a lot of people think is missing from particularly young men
in our society and culture.
There's no real moment where you recognize that you've done something
incredibly difficult and you've actually become a man.
It almost seems like society is pushing it the other direction where that
shouldn't exist or it should be avoided.
Even with the teams.
One of the things I hear is this narrative that it's too difficult.
I think you've got to consider the source on that one.
You know, like the most recent thing that came out, I'm sure you saw this, Mike,
was there was a video of training that occurred.
I'm pretty sure it was on San Clemente Island because that's where they CS gassed
us.
And there's guys who are outside and they're getting exposure to CS gas.
Which I remember before I joined the military, if you look at any movie,
probably up to and including like Full Metal Jacket, or if you even went into a
recruiting office, exposure to CS gas is something that you do in basic
training.
Except, I don't know if the Air Force does it.
Yeah, I don't know.
Let's assume that they do.
Probably they don't, but let's assume that they do.
It was completely standard and normal to see.
And that room sucks.
You go into a room, you have a gas mask on, and they make you take it off and
they make you either do something or say something or talk so you can't hold
your breath.
That's the point of all that.
So this video comes out of students that are outside, which one, is actually a
huge advantage because it dissipates quickly, especially if there's any kind of
wind.
And they're getting gassed.
And there's already issues with the story that I'm telling because, one, who
the fuck is filming this?
Like, just the fact that there was somebody there who was filming this thing
and it made it onto the internet in any way, shape, and form is a mistake in
and of itself.
So it couldn't have been someone who was in the program.
It was an instructor.
It had to have been an instructor.
So the students, the last four weeks of training, you go out to San Clemente
Island.
It's called third phase.
And you get a very basic indoctrination into small unit tactics, rifle, weaponry,
explosives.
You throw some grenades.
You do some underwater demo.
But you're out there for, like, the last tight four weeks of training.
The students, I mean, I don't even remember having a cell phone when I went
through, actually, in 97.
I'd be shocked if they're allowed to have cell phones on there.
So it had to have been an instructor.
But they're getting gassed.
They're being made to sing happy birthday again so