Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1887 - Maynard James Keenan
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Joe Rogan Experience #1887 - Maynard James Keenan

Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
Do you have a sauna? Do you do that?
I have a sauna, yeah.
Yeah?
Well, it had, initially it had issues because it was like a janky ass actual
heater that died and we had to try to get another.
Yeah, we had to order another one, but no luck with that company.
So we just, it's like, oh, that company doesn't exist anymore.
And so had to get a different one in there, but it's fine.
We just got done putting a bunch of the oil on it.
Sauna oil, it's kind of, because Arizona, the sun just like cooks the fucking
wood.
So there's like, it was cracking in spaces.
The real hardcore folks, they use the wood-fired sauna, old school, like you're
cooking pizza.
Yeah, well, they can do that.
Yeah.
I'm not that guy.
Yeah, they sell those.
I'm like, that seems like a lot of work.
Plus, you got to kill trees.
Yeah, we, you know, so we, you know, we use it quite a bit, actually, when it
was running.
But then, like, I was on the road and then harvest, we didn't bother with it
until just now we got it back running.
It's so good for you, man.
It's so good.
I just got out.
I do it after every workout.
It's like religious.
I make sure I get in there right afterwards.
It's the best.
All right.
You're training hard there, fella.
Well, John Donaher teaching you finder points of triangles.
That was fun to watch.
Yeah, I mean, it's hard on, as you, I discussed this before, being on the road
is, it's hard to find consistent training.
Consistent training is your gym, that instructor in your city, your drive back
and forth to your house, doing two classes a day, maybe, if you can.
You know, like, that kind of thing.
But, like, the road is, like, inconsistent.
So the only consistency I can really rely on is picking a particular subject
and going to people that I know that know how to do it.
Rather than allowing them to go, hey, I got this cool thing where you go upside
down and stand on your head and do a backflip and, like, buggy choke.
Don't, please, I don't, I'm 58.
Please don't try to tell me what a buggy choke is right now.
You can't do a buggy choke?
I might, someday.
But right now, I just want to fucking get the triangles right.
Buggy choke's a good thing to learn, though.
Yeah, I want to learn it, but, like, I got, it's, let me, let me learn it when
I'm going to spend three weeks on it and focused on it with somebody who
understands the details.
Somebody who also understands the counters.
Because the counters end up being as important as understanding the actual
thing.
Somebody caught a buggy choke recently in MMA.
I think it was in Bellator, and the dude picked him up and slammed him.
And he's out.
Yeah, he got fucked up, and then he beat the shit out of him.
I was like, hmm, yeah, that makes sense.
Because it's like, you really are committed to that.
You've attached yourself to the person and that they're big and strong and can
drop you on some, a surface.
You just don't have options like you do with a triangle.
You know, like if someone picks you up with a triangle, you drop down to the
leg, you let go.
Like, when you're in a buggy choke, you're kind of committed, I think.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe I should talk to, like, the Rotolo.
Yeah, this is it right here.
No, this is not it.
This is a different one.
But people are getting these left and right now.
You know, someone pulled one off in the UFC the other day, and people didn't
even know what the fuck it was.
I had to kind of explain it, and I'm like, this is so fascinating that this is
a technique that is, you know, for jujitsu, it's been around for like a year or
so.
He's out cold.
For jujitsu, it's been around for years, rather.
But for MMA, it's just starting to be applied.
Right.
But the beautiful thing about, especially that high level of MMA, is that
somebody's going to figure out how to counter it or prevent it.
And then it's gone.
Yeah.
I mean, for a while, all of a sudden, people were catching the Von Flu, and
then all of a sudden, people were like, no, no, we're going to counter that now.
But then every now and then, somebody catches one.
Yeah, well, OSP's the master.
He's the best at it.
He's caught more of them than Von Flu.
Von Flu, I think, invented it.
But OSP, I think, has more than anybody.
He gets it all the time.
It's like, it's a natural instinct when someone takes you down to hang on to
that guillotine.
You just want to have some sort of control over them.
And then all of a sudden, that person shifts weight, and they're on top of you
sideways.
You're like, oh, shit.
Then your arm is trapped.
Good night.
Yeah, it's a nasty joke.
There's just, jujitsu is so beautiful.
It's so cool watching you guys today, like watching Donaher.
Like, I learned something, that position of the knee to the ear.
Like, I didn't know that.
I kind of did it anyway.
But watching, like, he's so good at pointing out the finer details.
Yeah.
You know, he's just such a master.
What a fucking interesting person he is.
There's no John Donaher's out there.
No.
Like, if you said, I want a guy who was a professor of philosophy at Columbia
University,
who's a genius, who fell in love with jujitsu,
and is dedicated to it so much so that he walks around with a rash guard every
day.
Yeah.
He doesn't even have regular clothes.
I was like, I just, you know, I was just kidding myself.
Like, so, John, are we going to do gi or no gi?
Ah.
I think he abandoned the gi a long time ago, right?
Yeah.
He's like, no gi.
Yeah.
I mean, you can do, the good thing about doing the gi is you must be defensively
responsible
because you can't get out of stuff.
You can't just power out of things.
You know, like, there's certain techniques that you just, you know, when you
get trapped
in them, you really have to mind your P's and Q's when you get out if you have
a gi.
And, you know, I like training both because I like kind of training my mind to
not rely on the gi.
But then when it's, when there's something like a lapel or, you know, a jacket
or a gi available,
then I've trained how to deal with that piece of fabric that's your, now a tool
for you.
Well, I got very fortunate that I learned gi from John-Jacques Machado and John-Jacques
Machado only has one hand.
His left hand, he only has a thumb.
So, John-Jacques game was always overhooks and underhooks and clinch.
And, you know, that's why he was so successful in Abu Dhabi in the early days
because it,
all of his strategy completely applied to no gi, you know.
And so I sort of, when I was training with gi with John-Jacques and no gi with
Eddie Bravo,
I would do the same things.
I would just have to be more responsible defensively when I trained with the gi.
You just, you just can't explode.
Right.
You know.
I got back problems.
I probably shouldn't train as much gi anyway because guys get a hold of it.
And then you're, you're dealing with lower back issues.
Do you have back problems?
What kind of back problems you got?
Just lower back stuff.
Yeah.
Trying to do all the, try it every, it's just age and beat, beat down and
traveling, you know,
like on the bus, trying to describe, I was just trying to describe bus life to
your guys out there.
Like, you know, you're sleeping in kind of a coffin.
Mm-hmm.
So it's kind of weird.
You know, you can't really sit up because there's a, there's something above
your head.
How much time do you spend on the bus?
Well, between every gig, unless there's a day off.
So, you know, we're doing two on, three on and you're, so you're sleeping on
the bus.
But it's like, imagine sleeping and then four people on each corner of your bed
every 45 minutes,
just shaking it.
Fuck that.
Yeah.
So you're like, you're trying to get a solid seven, eight hours sleep, but you
end up having to get 11 hours of sleep
because three or four of that is you waking up in the middle of the night
because you hit bumps, bad roads, you know.
So what do you do?
You have the driver drive you in the middle of the night?
Yeah.
So after the show, you're in the bus and you're going to the next city.
And, you know, depending on the, depending on the drive, if it's, you know,
four hours, six hours, eight hours, nine hours.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have friends who do that.
Like Bert Kreischer does that.
That's his thing.
He loves tours and buses.
I'm not into it.
I don't love it.
Um, I enjoy performing the songs.
The travel part is the most difficult part.
And then, you know, so you're, you're in air conditioned, uh, scenarios.
So you're getting a little dehydrated.
You're trying to have to hydrate a little bit more than you normally would.
And you're having to perform that other, that night.
So training is, can be difficult on the road.
So try to do where I, you know, do whatever I can, uh, to get training in.
Yeah.
I admire people that like just hit gyms, like random gyms to show up to places
when they're on the road.
Like that's a bold move.
Never know who you're going to train with.
Yeah.
No.
And that's, and I'm, I'm a, I'm a pussy that way for sure.
I, I, I, people that I know, I have, I have the mats that come to me or if it's,
if I'm going to a place, it's because I know the person.
Do you weight train at all?
Not much.
I used to a little bit.
Um, it's really good for preventing injuries.
Like when you're talking about your lower back situation, I'll show you some
stuff, some of the equipment we have out there afterwards.
Yeah.
Is it, um, like kettlebell stuff?
Kettlebell stuff's great, but for the lower back, there's a machine called the
reverse hyper that we have out there.
Okay.
That's phenomenal because it decompresses your back and it also strengthens all
the muscles around it.
All right.
It was invented by Louie Simmons, who's this, uh, genius.
That's Louie right there.
Rest in peace.
Hello.
Hi, Louie.
He has left us and gone on to the next stage of existence.
But that machine, he developed because, um, Louie was like a world famous power
lifter and his, um, his back got fucked.
And they told him to get his back fused because it was compressed.
And so he figured out a way to decompress the spine with, uh, active decompression.
So that thing, as it swings down and you'll, you'll feel it, I'll show it to
you afterwards when we go into the gym, that, that thing decompresses your
spine on the downswing.
And then on the upswing, it actually strengthens the muscles around the back.
Okay.
Anybody that has the room for it and has like some issues with their lower back,
even if you don't have issues, if you don't want to ever have issues, I can't
recommend that machine enough.
It's phenomenal for the back.
I will, I will take that advice.
I just feel like when you get to our age, you must weight train.
It just, I don't think it's an if and or, but I think it's, you have to do it
because you, otherwise you lose muscle density, you lose bone density, you, you
know, we're deteriorating.
Yeah.
Father time wants to fuck us over and grind us into dust.
Yeah.
And you know, that's, and I, this is me making excuses, but you know, there's a
lot going on with the winery.
Oh yeah.
So even just going to do jujitsu during harvest is like nearly impossible
because you're doing 10 hour days.
And so I just don't have the time and you're in the sun.
So by the time your day is done, you're like, I need a beer and I need to go to
sleep.
Yeah.
Do you take electrolytes?
Mm-hmm.
What do you take?
I don't know if the, Henry Aikens turned me on to this little packet of stuff
that it's pretty good.
Do you know the company that makes it?
No, I don't, I don't have.
There's a bunch of good ones.
I like liquid IVs.
That's like when I have, when we have like a couple extra interns that are
starting with us in the cellar, because it's Arizona.
It's a hundred, you know, it might be 90 degrees, but it's 110 on the concrete.
Just that, all that radiant heat off the, off the concrete.
So I make everybody have electrolyte drink to even just before we even start
here, drink thi