Name: Homeland Security's Plan to Police Misinformation on Twitter
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Description: Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Homeland Security's Plan to Police Misinformation on Twitter' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2022-11-01. Transcript available.

Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Homeland Security's Plan to Police Misinformation on Twitter' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2022-11-01. Transcript available.

the Joe Rogan experience I don't think this is gonna work oh my god I can't see
oh fuck I can't like I can't see at all I don't know how you're supposed to see
out of that it's a deadly outfit I guess I'll just put that on when I want to
say
something incriminating yeah what do you mean well the thought police so pull
up
that article Jamie at the beginning of this podcast we should probably go
right into this because apparently the Department of Homeland Security and
Twitter yeah we're working together are we on yeah I don't hear there we go the
Department of Homeland Security was they had a plan to police information and
they were working with Twitter in some fashion look at this quietly broadening
its effort to curve speech it considers dangerous yeah
what does that mean I don't know an investigation by the intercept has
found years of internal DHS memos emails and documents obtained via leaks in an
ongoing lops and all and an ongoing lawsuit as well as public documents
illustrate the expansive effort by the agency to influence the tech platforms
the work much of which remains unknown to the American public came into clear
view earlier
this year when DHS announced a new disinformation governance board a panel
designed to police misinformation false information spread
unintentionally and then now intentionally excuse me and mal information
factual
information shared typically out of context with harmful intent mal information
is a weird one
mal information yeah because it's factual but it's shared typically out of
context with harmful intent that's where you're like you look you don't
understand why we mowed down those reporters
with a chopper it's out of context you can't just show the video while the
board was widely ridiculed immediately scaled back and then shut down within a
few
months other initiatives are underway as DHS pivots to monitoring social media
now
that its original mandate the war on terror has been wound down so that's been
wound down apparently platforms have got to get comfortable with government it's
really interesting how hesitant they remain Microsoft executive Matt Masterson
former
dhs official texted Jen Easterly look at that platforms have got to get
comfortable with
government oh what does that mean I don't know Tim Pool sent me this this
morning I didn't get a
chance to read I was in the gym look you got to get comfortable with government
yeah that's what I've
been saying just get comfortable yeah why aren't you comfortable cozy up put on
some sweatpants cozy up
wow that's creepy I mean I guess we all kind of suspected it though right it's
not like anybody
that's is that a shocker well with what uh Tim Pool said is that Twitter was
working with them
that uh they I guess like they weren't being honest about it they were working
with them what were you
telling me that the Jimmy Kimmel tweeted something and tried to delete it yeah
it looks like I could be
wrong about this but Kimmel was pissed at Musk why for buying Twitter what does
he care what is he mad about
so basically like a lot of people seem to be really upset with Elon for buying
Twitter because
Elon is saying that he's not going to censor Twitter anymore he's gonna like
let you know all the band
people are gonna get back on apparently you know it's like they're trying to
figure it out how to do
it and so this is upset a lot of people who were happy with the idea that it
was being like hyper
moderated in a way I think that fits in with their politics yeah that was the
idea so it's like
so like their team was in control for a second and now somebody you know what
it reminds me of
it's like when a new booker shows up in a comedy club
and all the comics start talking shit it's like scary
uh it has been interesting over the years to watch you blossom from the
electric car guy into a fully
a fully formed piece of shit wow and look see it says this tweet was deleted by
the tweet
author learn more he was uh replying to a tweet that elon tweeted and what was
the tweet that elon deleted
which i think was that was a tweet where it's this uh it's like the santa monica
observer or something like that was tweeting something about the paul pelosi
attack and that santa monica observer has been known to tweet things that are
aren't that aren't correct or at least has or not tweet publish things that
aren't correct at least has in one instance that they were citing
something about hillary clinton i don't know but you know he i think what elon
tweeted was there's a tiny chance that we might not be getting the full story
and then he tweeted that story yeah this is the idea that maybe paul pelosi
knew this guy because people have been trying to pin that guy for the
and say that he was a right wing mega guy but didn't he live in like some hippie
collective and he made like hemp jewelry he did woo to q pipeline he went woo
to q so like he apparently had some kind of uh blog or something i think he
started off woo super hippie ayahuasca mystical and then gradually kind of devolved
into q q anon
q anon twitter's twitter's twitter's fact checking the president united states
is incorrect facts right which is crazy that that's happening well this is the
emperor wears no clothes yes that's the fable right like naked dudes going
around everybody's scared of them so they're like beautiful robes yeah and then
some kid is like he's naked look he's obviously naked and then another person's
like oh yeah you're right he is it's like that is
that's the pot that is the like i guess the hope of the internet is that truth
comes out and it destabilizes bad power structure bad structures exactly you
want to you want to throw a monkey wrench into shit that doesn't work so that
it like stops working and you rebuild instead of patching up old wobbly things
that are like smokes coming out gears are flying off and you're supposed to
pretend like it's working right that's where it gets creepy it's like
you know if you know if the if the machine that is failing starts telling tech
companies or whoever like what is real and what isn't then a broken machine is
then like articulating truth which then so if someone starts telling the truth
the emperor wears no clothes and then like twitter throws up underneath like
this is potential misinformation
or whatever that's why this department of homeland security thing is so creepy
because that would be the same people the same people that are telling you
things that are telling you things that are so creepy and that's why this
department of homeland security thing is so creepy
truth which then so if someone starts telling the truth the emperor wears no
clothes and then like
twitter throws up underneath like this is potential misinformation or whatever
that's why this
department of homeland security thing is so creepy because that would be the
same people
the same people that are telling you things that are factually inaccurate or
that are getting fact
checked on twitter would be the very people that would get to dictate what is
mal information yeah
like mal information was the craziest one like everybody thinks you shouldn't
be able to say
things that aren't true right or if you do you must correct them like are you
are you telling the truth
are you manipulating with lies right you can't manipulate with lies so if maybe
you said something
and you thought it was true let's correct that yeah but if you just keep doing
that over and over and
over again you never admit that and then you're the one who gets to dictate
what's mal information
right it's like the death throes of a dying system and it's reaching out in a
time and it's acting and
behaving the way it used to be able to behave when it had total access to what
gets in what what people
get informed about or not right it had complete control of that at one point in
time well it's
massive i mean we're talking about how many offices are filled with people
working for the government
right now like how many if you put them in a in a building like would the
building go all the way
to the moon would it be like a high rise that went probably the moon would be
covered with government
office buildings but like it's it's massive and then it's so huge that you know
just people get put
in the departments and some and some of the people that get put in the
departments are good smart people
and some of the people that get put in the departments they suck right like
everything in
all walks of life yeah right that's all it takes so you get one like everybody's
had a shitty manager
you get one shitty manager in some job where like he's he's got a little or
more power than he's
supposed to have and then he's probably got people around him we're like this
is a bad idea and he's like
well you're fired and then people come in who are like this is a really good
idea he's like you're
a genius if you think this is a good idea because it is then you have this like
terrible geometry of
like where a contagion happens where this one asshole like starts getting
surrounded by concentric
circles of assholes and then those people have so much power and um and that's
i think what's going
on with it is it's just like there's just too many people running things and of
those people there's
got to be some that are great i know there is and there's some that are just abject
monstrous power
hungry coked up assholes and i think that's when you start seeing shit like
that it's clearly a sign
of i mean again maybe i'm being naive but i'd like to imagine that that's
coming from like a few
assholes that's not coming from the totality of the u.s government all of it it's
just coming from like
what a thousand assholes but then there's also the real problem of actual
misinformation that's being
spread by bad parties right like we know that we know that there's
misinformation that gets spread by bad
governments by like our enemies like we know that there's a whole industry yeah
like these russian
troll farms sure you know we've talked about this before but in on facebook 19
of the top 20 christian
sites were being run by russian troll farms i remember you saying that you know
how nuts that is up that
means they're like they're like some conversations that are insane that don't
make any sense like how is
this how is this a conversation well it might not be it might be right we're
getting manipulated it
might be there's a bunch of and then the problem with people we were talking
about before that we
have this natural inclination to follow leaders we do that online too man and
if there's like some
really good tweets that point in a certain direction people will start agreeing
with it right people are
easily the idea that manipulation only applies to like verbal or or or written
in a statement no it
fucking applies to tweets too you can manipulate people dude i get manipulated
all the fucking time
are you kidding me i'm like always getting caught up in online i like go
through like phases of like
yeah oh my god i i pendulum between teams or i'll get caught up in some like
deep crazy conspiracy i like
i get like i it's a very potent by the way i'm not saying it's potent because i
get manipulated easily but
it's a potent drug yes the internet's a potent drug there's all kinds of
operators it's not just
russian troll forms it's discordians it's just basic like trolls who are bored
it's who knows what
probably some cult will never know about just some weird cult on an island
somewhere with some nefarious
purpose it's like trying to put some certain information on the internet it's a
ocean of
madness and maybe like the the the horrible idea is okay we can control the
ocean of madness that's
what we're going to do because some of these people are are other states trying
to cause discord in our
society that could lead to a civil war the collapse of the united states we've
got to do something about
this call up twitter listen it's a problem you got to let us tell you what's
real and what's not real
and at first maybe that's great it's like look this is 100 coming from russian
trolls this this whatever
this is this is russian ai trolls but then all of a sudden the president calls
that department like
hey is there any way that you could also start applying that to uh people who
say that i seem like
like i'm kind of out of it you know what i mean

Homeland Security's Plan to Police Misinformation on Twitter

the Joe Rogan experience I don't think this is gonna work oh my god I can't see
oh fuck I can't like I can't see at all I don't know how you're supposed to see
out of that it's a deadly outfit I guess I'll just put that on when I want to
say
something incriminating yeah what do you mean well the thought police so pull
up
that article Jamie at the beginning of this podcast we should probably go
right into this because apparently the Department of Homeland Security and
Twitter yeah we're working together are we on yeah I don't hear there we go the
Department of Homeland Security was they had a plan to police information and
they were working with Twitter in some fashion look at this quietly broadening
its effort to curve speech it considers dangerous yeah
what does that mean I don't know an investigation by the intercept has
found years of internal DHS memos emails and documents obtained via leaks in an
ongoing lops and all and an ongoing lawsuit as well as public documents
illustrate the expansive effort by the agency to influence the tech platforms
the work much of which remains unknown to the American public came into clear
view earlier
this year when DHS announced a new disinformation governance board a panel
designed to police misinformation false information spread
unintentionally and then now intentionally excuse me and mal information
factual
information shared typically out of context with harmful intent mal information
is a weird one
mal information yeah because it's factual but it's shared typically out of
context with harmful intent that's where you're like you look you don't
understand why we mowed down those reporters
with a chopper it's out of context you can't just show the video while the
board was widely ridiculed immediately scaled back and then shut down within a
few
months other initiatives are underway as DHS pivots to monitoring social media
now
that its original mandate the war on terror has been wound down so that's been
wound down apparently platforms have got to get comfortable with government it's
really interesting how hesitant they remain Microsoft executive Matt Masterson
former
dhs official texted Jen Easterly look at that platforms have got to get
comfortable with
government oh what does that mean I don't know Tim Pool sent me this this
morning I didn't get a
chance to read I was in the gym look you got to get comfortable with government
yeah that's what I've
been saying just get comfortable yeah why aren't you comfortable cozy up put on
some sweatpants cozy up
wow that's creepy I mean I guess we all kind of suspected it though right it's
not like anybody
that's is that a shocker well with what uh Tim Pool said is that Twitter was
working with them
that uh they I guess like they weren't being honest about it they were working
with them what were you
telling me that the Jimmy Kimmel tweeted something and tried to delete it yeah
it looks like I could be
wrong about this but Kimmel was pissed at Musk why for buying Twitter what does
he care what is he mad about
so basically like a lot of people seem to be really upset with Elon for buying
Twitter because
Elon is saying that he's not going to censor Twitter anymore he's gonna like
let you know all the band
people are gonna get back on apparently you know it's like they're trying to
figure it out how to do
it and so this is upset a lot of people who were happy with the idea that it
was being like hyper
moderated in a way I think that fits in with their politics yeah that was the
idea so it's like
so like their team was in control for a second and now somebody you know what
it reminds me of
it's like when a new booker shows up in a comedy club
and all the comics start talking shit it's like scary
uh it has been interesting over the years to watch you blossom from the
electric car guy into a fully
a fully formed piece of shit wow and look see it says this tweet was deleted by
the tweet
author learn more he was uh replying to a tweet that elon tweeted and what was
the tweet that elon deleted
which i think was that was a tweet where it's this uh it's like the santa monica
observer or something like that was tweeting something about the paul pelosi
attack and that santa monica observer has been known to tweet things that are
aren't that aren't correct or at least has or not tweet publish things that
aren't correct at least has in one instance that they were citing
something about hillary clinton i don't know but you know he i think what elon
tweeted was there's a tiny chance that we might not be getting the full story
and then he tweeted that story yeah this is the idea that maybe paul pelosi
knew this guy because people have been trying to pin that guy for the
and say that he was a right wing mega guy but didn't he live in like some hippie
collective and he made like hemp jewelry he did woo to q pipeline he went woo
to q so like he apparently had some kind of uh blog or something i think he
started off woo super hippie ayahuasca mystical and then gradually kind of devolved
into q q anon
q anon twitter's twitter's twitter's fact checking the president united states
is incorrect facts right which is crazy that that's happening well this is the
emperor wears no clothes yes that's the fable right like naked dudes going
around everybody's scared of them so they're like beautiful robes yeah and then
some kid is like he's naked look he's obviously naked and then another person's
like oh yeah you're right he is it's like that is
that's the pot that is the like i guess the hope of the internet is that truth
comes out and it destabilizes bad power structure bad structures exactly you
want to you want to throw a monkey wrench into shit that doesn't work so that
it like stops working and you rebuild instead of patching up old wobbly things
that are like smokes coming out gears are flying off and you're supposed to
pretend like it's working right that's where it gets creepy it's like
you know if you know if the if the machine that is failing starts telling tech
companies or whoever like what is real and what isn't then a broken machine is
then like articulating truth which then so if someone starts telling the truth
the emperor wears no clothes and then like twitter throws up underneath like
this is potential misinformation
or whatever that's why this department of homeland security thing is so creepy
because that would be the same people the same people that are telling you
things that are telling you things that are so creepy and that's why this
department of homeland security thing is so creepy
truth which then so if someone starts telling the truth the emperor wears no
clothes and then like
twitter throws up underneath like this is potential misinformation or whatever
that's why this
department of homeland security thing is so creepy because that would be the
same people
the same people that are telling you things that are factually inaccurate or
that are getting fact
checked on twitter would be the very people that would get to dictate what is
mal information yeah
like mal information was the craziest one like everybody thinks you shouldn't
be able to say
things that aren't true right or if you do you must correct them like are you
are you telling the truth
are you manipulating with lies right you can't manipulate with lies so if maybe
you said something
and you thought it was true let's correct that yeah but if you just keep doing
that over and over and
over again you never admit that and then you're the one who gets to dictate
what's mal information
right it's like the death throes of a dying system and it's reaching out in a
time and it's acting and
behaving the way it used to be able to behave when it had total access to what
gets in what what people
get informed about or not right it had complete control of that at one point in
time well it's
massive i mean we're talking about how many offices are filled with people
working for the government
right now like how many if you put them in a in a building like would the
building go all the way
to the moon would it be like a high rise that went probably the moon would be
covered with government
office buildings but like it's it's massive and then it's so huge that you know
just people get put
in the departments and some and some of the people that get put in the
departments are good smart people
and some of the people that get put in the departments they suck right like
everything in
all walks of life yeah right that's all it takes so you get one like everybody's
had a shitty manager
you get one shitty manager in some job where like he's he's got a little or
more power than he's
supposed to have and then he's probably got people around him we're like this
is a bad idea and he's like
well you're fired and then people come in who are like this is a really good
idea he's like you're
a genius if you think this is a good idea because it is then you have this like
terrible geometry of
like where a contagion happens where this one asshole like starts getting
surrounded by concentric
circles of assholes and then those people have so much power and um and that's
i think what's going
on with it is it's just like there's just too many people running things and of
those people there's
got to be some that are great i know there is and there's some that are just abject
monstrous power
hungry coked up assholes and i think that's when you start seeing shit like
that it's clearly a sign
of i mean again maybe i'm being naive but i'd like to imagine that that's
coming from like a few
assholes that's not coming from the totality of the u.s government all of it it's
just coming from like
what a thousand assholes but then there's also the real problem of actual
misinformation that's being
spread by bad parties right like we know that we know that there's
misinformation that gets spread by bad
governments by like our enemies like we know that there's a whole industry yeah
like these russian
troll farms sure you know we've talked about this before but in on facebook 19
of the top 20 christian
sites were being run by russian troll farms i remember you saying that you know
how nuts that is up that
means they're like they're like some conversations that are insane that don't
make any sense like how is
this how is this a conversation well it might not be it might be right we're
getting manipulated it
might be there's a bunch of and then the problem with people we were talking
about before that we
have this natural inclination to follow leaders we do that online too man and
if there's like some
really good tweets that point in a certain direction people will start agreeing
with it right people are
easily the idea that manipulation only applies to like verbal or or or written
in a statement no it
fucking applies to tweets too you can manipulate people dude i get manipulated
all the fucking time
are you kidding me i'm like always getting caught up in online i like go
through like phases of like
yeah oh my god i i pendulum between teams or i'll get caught up in some like
deep crazy conspiracy i like
i get like i it's a very potent by the way i'm not saying it's potent because i
get manipulated easily but
it's a potent drug yes the internet's a potent drug there's all kinds of
operators it's not just
russian troll forms it's discordians it's just basic like trolls who are bored
it's who knows what
probably some cult will never know about just some weird cult on an island
somewhere with some nefarious
purpose it's like trying to put some certain information on the internet it's a
ocean of
madness and maybe like the the the horrible idea is okay we can control the
ocean of madness that's
what we're going to do because some of these people are are other states trying
to cause discord in our
society that could lead to a civil war the collapse of the united states we've
got to do something about
this call up twitter listen it's a problem you got to let us tell you what's
real and what's not rea