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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'LIV Golf vs. the PGA - The Controversial Divide Over the Future of Golf' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2023-01-12. Transcript available.

The Joe Rogan Experience.
What do you think about the fucking, the live golf thing?
Love it. Absolutely love it.
Why not?
Tell me more.
Here's the reason.
And I told you, before this, I know a guy that went over there.
And here's the thing.
Some people love the preservation in the history of the PGA.
I get it. Tradition.
A lot of things about the PGA are bullshit.
And particularly the idea that the PGA had a stronghold on them.
It was kind of like, it has like the remnants of like contracts from studios in
the 50s for actors.
Where you're like, we own your fucking ass.
Your likeness, your rights, your images.
When the golfers golf, they can't use that footage.
They have to license it from the PGA.
So if I'm out playing and I want to be like, hey man, I want to put a post on
Instagram about this dope ass putt I hit or whatever.
This great.
You have to buy it.
You have to buy your shit back from them.
Bullshit.
Why?
If I'm Zion Williamson in the NBA and I fucking yoke on someone, I put my dick
in their fucking face and dunk on them.
The NBA can't wait to give you the footage.
They're like, dude, post that shit.
Because it's going to help their brand.
PGA is old, white guy bullshit.
And I get it that it's antiquated.
So some of the younger guys were like, fuck this.
I want more freedom and fun.
I want something different.
Some of them, their careers are on the other side.
So they might not be making so much more to win money.
Right?
So this is a great alternative.
The problem people had was like Dustin Johnson or, you know, guys that are at
the top and they're like, why are you pulling your game over there?
Do you think you can't win anymore in this?
Which is part of the controversy.
It's like, oh, do you?
But what's the big controversy?
The big controversy is from the Saudis.
Yeah, but Saudi money is invested in tons of shit.
Look up Saudi money LPGA.
Look that up.
The investment of the Saudis isn't like a new thing in American sports.
So people are just mad because, the PGA particularly is mad, because they're
looking something in the face that's threatening them.
It's not going to be bigger than the PGA.
But it's an alternative that's fun.
People like it.
It's not going to be bigger.
Not going to take it over.
But what people are concerned with is that people are leaving and they're going
to work for someone who's been accused of some horrific shit.
Sure.
But who made your jeans?
These are American jeans.
But you know what I mean?
It's like most people.
These are made by origin.
But most people go, oh, dude, I don't like that.
It's like, your fucking shirt was made by a Chinese kid.
There's a lot.
Well, your phone.
If you're complaining about stuff, you're literally complaining on a device
that was made by slaves.
Well, that's my point.
So I think that when you start to get into the nitpicky stuff, I'm always like,
mm.
I understand the idea of being like, people are anti them playing for Saudi
money.
But if you think you're not involved in Saudi money at a high sports level, I'm
sorry, but it's there.
Well, the WWE fans are freaking out now, right?
Why?
Jamie?
Yeah, yeah.
What's that about?
It's last night that the Saudi investment fund bought the WWE, I believe.
Okay.
Well, what are you going to do?
What happens now?
I don't know.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I just fucking know.
What happens now?
Well, there's no divas.
There's not going to be any women.
Look at that.
Vince McMahon.
WWE talent done if company is sold to Saudi Arabia.
Thank you, brother.
He says it's not sold to Saudi Arabia, according to them.
This is what was happening on Twitter last night.
WWE Twitter world freaked out.
It was like trending all night.
Well, go to Snopes.
What does Snopes have to say?
Oh, they had an answer?
Is WWE being sold?
Research in progress.
Still going.
So, yes.
So, the answer is yes, and they just can't leak it.
Well, the money comes around if it's a substantial increase in money.
I think here's the deal.
I understand tradition, but if these guys want an alternative league to play in,
fucking let them go play.
Who gives a shit?
I don't know.
Why do you need a monopoly of one league?
I mean, you look at the history of-
That's not what the problem is.
What people have a problem with is Jamal Khashoggi.
Jamal Khashoggi, who was a journalist for the Washington Post,
who was dismembered at the Turkish embassy,
supposedly at the instructions of the Saudi royals.
Yeah.
He was critical of them.
Yeah, but I mean, I don't know, man.
I don't know who literally is funding.
They could be just Saudi businessmen that are funding live.
I don't know this particulars, but I don't know.
That's what I'm saying is like, whatever.
If they want to go play in that league and they're comfortable with it,
let them go play, I guess.
Fuck it.
What an American perspective.
Well, let them go play.
It's fucking capitalism, baby.
You want to get that fucking check, dude?
That's the Trump perspective.
Get that fucking check, dude.
Trump told them.
It's an amazing, amazing organization.
They're doing great things.
Doing great things.
Go get that money.
I think, honestly, here's what's really going to happen.
They're going to go get that money and then they're going to leave.
Then it's going to be over and it's going to dissipate into nothing.
Or not.
If they have that kind of cheddar.
They have enough cheddar, they could literally keep this going forever if they
wanted to.
And they wouldn't put a dent in them.
No, no, it's not that.
And you're right.
It's more that what guys are going to be willing to either stay there or
continue to go over there.
So the problem is the talent, right?
It's like anything else.
But they're having the events here.
Correct.
I went to one.
So you don't have to stay.
You don't have to go over there.
I think they only play one over there.
All of them are here.
Like I went to one in Chicago, Rich Harvest Farms.
And yeah, I mean, you know, look, it's really interesting to see the internal
uproar,
which I immediately attribute to golf is an old tradition sport.
So people are really particular.
So they don't even like that someone's entering the conversation.
The other perspective, obviously, is the one that is the bigger deal is people
think it's an immoral move, unethical move.
If it was instead some enormous hedge fund got together and they put all their
money together and decided to fund their own alternative golf agency or golf
tour.
Just as mad.
I think they would be just as upset.
People would be the PGA does not want competition.
They don't like that guys are even thinking about going.
And then I think personally, they're shoehorning in the Saudi stuff to go.
And that's bad.
See, they're more mad about business interests.
They don't give a, they don't fucking care about the Saudi stuff.
How much of an effect is it having on the top players?
Nothing.
I mean, my buddy, my buddy's doing a documentary that's coming out on Netflix.
I think coming up soon in the first quarter of the year about the PGA.
And during it, during the middle of filming, half of the guys left and went to
live.
And he films both perspectives.
So, and it's supposed to be really good.
It's just, it's not changed much.
What's the highest level player?
The highest paycheck?
The highest level, like a guy who's like a championship caliber.
Phil Mickelson is one of the greatest of all time, arguably, in a span of many,
many golfers.
I'm not saying he's like number one.
I'm not saying, I'm just saying he is one of the best of all time.
And he is, I think he's the biggest money, right?
Wasn't he the biggest?
Him or Dustin Johnson.
Yeah, him or DJ got the most.
And what kind of money are we talking about?
150 mil, supposedly, to just come over to play before they won any extra money.
Before they got paid out.
Whoa.
Yeah.
But it's also part of a contract.
No one knows the details of these contracts.
Well, they're private, right?
They don't have to disclose.
Didn't they lose all their sponsors once they went over there, though?
A lot of them lost some of their sponsors.
But I don't know if you need them anymore after 150 mil clears.
Right.
Yeah, I think, I think.
Like, what kind of sponsors are we talking about?
CDW, you know, like business investment firms.
Golf is sponsored heavily by like, you know, TD Ameritrade and shit that you're,
it's a lot of that shit.
Which makes sense.
Yeah.
Because all those guys are the guys who like golf.
Yeah.
That's who likes golf.
Yeah, businessmen.
Old businessmen.
They love to do business meetings on the golf course, right?
Good to see you, Phil.
I bet if you're like a businessman, you probably have to play golf in some
circles.
It's an advantage.
I don't know if in the new era, I'm, you know, my, you know, our age is, what's
going on now in the youth of business?
I don't fucking know what 22-year-olds have to do to like get through in the
corporate world.
But I imagine it's still a part of it to a degree, you know?
It's an inner circle that you're going to get leverage from some way or another.
It's like going to a good school.
It's like, dude, I went to Arizona State.
Did I have any connections?
I made zero fucking, friends.
Yeah.
I made a lot of fucking friends, but none of them could help me business-wise.
It's not like going to Yale.
No, yeah.
You go to an accredited university, someone's daddy is a somebody.
And so that's a big advantage in going to a good school.
And you meet that guy and you might wind up working for his firm.
He might give you a fucking job.
Yeah.
You want a job?
Does your kid want a job?
It's like that shit, but.
Billy's a good kid.
Really good kid.
And he's top of his class.
I'll give him a couple hundred grand a year out of school.
We'll let him fuck off for two years, then we'll figure it out.
Show him how to do coke.
We'll give him a bump.
But so I think, like, at the end of the day, whatever people,
whatever those guys want to do, I just want to watch golf.
So I don't give a shit.
I'm definitely, the PGA is still going to be the number one
because it has, you know, the Masters.
It has tournaments where you're, it's just.
Now, is this the general attitude of most people?
Most people are just letting it go.
They don't care.
I think most guys.
Or some people are outraged.
Most guys my age, I think Jamie might be in a similar boat
where you're like, I don't fucking give a shit.
But my dad's generation is like, you know, fucking ridiculous.
You don't have to go supporting the fucking Saudis.
And you go over there and you're abandoning the ship that, like, you sailed in
on.
You know, the PGA built you and it formed you.
It would be like if the UFC had a big competitive,
had a competitive thing come forward with way more money,
which I don't know if that's happened.
I'm ignorant, you could tell me if it has.
It hasn't.
But if it has, that's kind of the same thing.
There's some guys who get really good deals that they wouldn't get in the UFC.
So what happens is if there's talent that's available that's top flight talent,
Bellator has options.
You know, that's an option.
Yeah.
A lot of guys will go to Bellator because Bellator will pay them more.
But it's like when you get to the World Championship,
like the Conor McGregor, Khabib Nurmagomedov level,
I think they make more money in the UFC.
Right.
I think because they have pay-per-view.
Excuse me, pay-per-view.
You don't see pay-per-view with Bellator.
I think they've done a couple pay-per-views.
I don't think they've been that successful.
Whereas UFC does a pay-per-view every month.
Right.
Every month is an enormous pay-per-view.
There's World Championship fights where you get the best of the best,
and everybody knows who they are.
It's like Q-tips, NFL, NBA.
Like that's MMA at the highest level.
Right.
You can get cotton swabs at CVS that aren't made by Q-tips.
You're asking for Q-tips.
Where's the Q-tips?
Where's Kleenex?
Yeah, where's the Kleenex?
And that, I mean, that's not even the best example, right?
Because the Q-tips at, you know, CVS that aren't Q-tips,
the cotton swabs are probably just as good.
It's not that fucking hard to have a little stick and a little cotton on the
end of it.
But it's the name.
To get elite, world-class fighters to compete in the biggest organization to
hold that UFC belt,
you know, and have Bruce Buffer say,
and no!
Yeah.
You know, and they put that fucking strap on you.
Whoa.
That's the cream of the crop when it comes to combat sports.
Well, that's what it is in the PGA.
It's like they hold tradition.
They've got it by the balls.
So no one will, there's no, it's not accredited.
You know, Liv is for fun.
It's for money and fun.
And I think they're trying to appeal to like a new young market.
I think they need to do that shit with the crowd.
That, well, the Liv is, Liv has live music.
They have like, it's...
Who has that?
That one with the crowd.
That's a different thing?
That's the PGA.
That's the PGA.
Yeah.
This has got to be the, this is like the one time they kind of let this chaos
go.
It's because it's in Phoenix.
Waste Management runs it.
Listen, it's a great move.
No, it's, it's, well, you should show him a picture of what the 16th hole looks
like without those stands.
It, what, what they build is mind-blowing.
The course outside of that looks nothing like that.
They build this huge structure that's around it.
So that structure they put in temporarily?
Yeah, that's gone.
Most of the time it's not there.
What?
That's what it looks like.
That enormous structure they built temporarily?
Yes.
And they keep it or they take it down?
Just for the tournament.
They take it down?
The moment the tournament's closed, that course goes back to what it looked
like.
Look at the 16th without it.
Oh my God, that's insane.
Or 17, is it?
How many people are in there?
I mean, dude, that's got to be, I don't know, 5,000, 6,000.
Oh, more.
Yeah, at least.
It looks like more.
If that was a show that we were doing together, we'd be like, bro.
Just without grandstand, right?
Without grandstand.
That looks like 30, 40,000 to me, man.
Look at, that's what it looks like, Joe, without it.
Whoa.
It's nothing.
It has a time lapse.
How many people were there?
Google the, what's the amount, the audience size?
You're allowed to walk in and out of that area.
It's not like you need a seat.
Yeah, you don't stay.
You can go anywhere on the course the whole day.
Right, but how many people get seated by those, that structure they put in
place?
How many seats are available?
Take a guess.
I'm saying 40 grand.
I would say 20K.
Yeah, it's like 15,000.
15 or 20K.
It seems more than that, man.
It does.
It's so big.
There's a lot of boxes, too.
They sell those boxes.
It's the 16th and 12th.
They sell those boxes because people now know how fun it is.
Right, but what's the actual number?
I don't know that we'll know it.
Oh.
It changes year to year because they add more people.
Yeah, but they have, okay, let's go the 2021 waste management open crowd size.
Yeah, there's got to be a way to find it, right?
Yeah, 100%.
I mean, they'll give you an estimate of something.
They'll give you, like, usually how many people show up because they brag about
it.
20,000.
20,000.
But that's the whole event.
That's not sitting in there.
Yeah, but I would argue half of them are there.
That's probably 10 grand, maybe.
But what a great idea to get it exciting because that was so much more exciting
than a normal golf situation.
Well, you should hear when they interview pro golfers.
This is only 5,000.
5,000 fans per day.
But that was 2021.
This is when the pandemic was happening.
Oh, right, right, right, right.
The grandstands are nonexistent.
Pro golfers say that that's the most nervous they are because people talk shit.
They're yelling.
It's, dude, it's, most times, you know, they get this.
As a guy that holds up a thing to shut the fuck up.
Yeah.
There, there's no rules.
I love that.
And you know what's so funny?
When somebody does get a hole in one like that, they all throw beer.
Like, you can, he's got pictures of it where they'll throw beer on there,
but they don't get kicked out or anything.
It's like the one time you're allowed to throw beer.
Thank you.

LIV Golf vs. the PGA - The Controversial Divide Over the Future of Golf

The Joe Rogan Experience.
What do you think about the fucking, the live golf thing?
Love it. Absolutely love it.
Why not?
Tell me more.
Here's the reason.
And I told you, before this, I know a guy that went over there.
And here's the thing.
Some people love the preservation in the history of the PGA.
I get it. Tradition.
A lot of things about the PGA are bullshit.
And particularly the idea that the PGA had a stronghold on them.
It was kind of like, it has like the remnants of like contracts from studios in
the 50s for actors.
Where you're like, we own your fucking ass.
Your likeness, your rights, your images.
When the golfers golf, they can't use that footage.
They have to license it from the PGA.
So if I'm out playing and I want to be like, hey man, I want to put a post on
Instagram about this dope ass putt I hit or whatever.
This great.
You have to buy it.
You have to buy your shit back from them.
Bullshit.
Why?
If I'm Zion Williamson in the NBA and I fucking yoke on someone, I put my dick
in their fucking face and dunk on them.
The NBA can't wait to give you the footage.
They're like, dude, post that shit.
Because it's going to help their brand.
PGA is old, white guy bullshit.
And I get it that it's antiquated.
So some of the younger guys were like, fuck this.
I want more freedom and fun.
I want something different.
Some of them, their careers are on the other side.
So they might not be making so much more to win money.
Right?
So this is a great alternative.
The problem people had was like Dustin Johnson or, you know, guys that are at
the top and they're like, why are you pulling your game over there?
Do you think you can't win anymore in this?
Which is part of the controversy.
It's like, oh, do you?
But what's the big controversy?
The big controversy is from the Saudis.
Yeah, but Saudi money is invested in tons of shit.
Look up Saudi money LPGA.
Look that up.
The investment of the Saudis isn't like a new thing in American sports.
So people are just mad because, the PGA particularly is mad, because they're
looking something in the face that's threatening them.
It's not going to be bigger than the PGA.
But it's an alternative that's fun.
People like it.
It's not going to be bigger.
Not going to take it over.
But what people are concerned with is that people are leaving and they're going
to work for someone who's been accused of some horrific shit.
Sure.
But who made your jeans?
These are American jeans.
But you know what I mean?
It's like most people.
These are made by origin.
But most people go, oh, dude, I don't like that.
It's like, your fucking shirt was made by a Chinese kid.
There's a lot.
Well, your phone.
If you're complaining about stuff, you're literally complaining on a device
that was made by slaves.
Well, that's my point.
So I think that when you start to get into the nitpicky stuff, I'm always like,
mm.
I understand the idea of being like, people are anti them playing for Saudi
money.
But if you think you're not involved in Saudi money at a high sports level, I'm
sorry, but it's there.
Well, the WWE fans are freaking out now, right?
Why?
Jamie?
Yeah, yeah.
What's that about?
It's last night that the Saudi investment fund bought the WWE, I believe.
Okay.
Well, what are you going to do?
What happens now?
I don't know.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I just fucking know.
What happens now?
Well, there's no divas.
There's not going to be any women.
Look at that.
Vince McMahon.
WWE talent done if company is sold to Saudi Arabia.
Thank you, brother.
He says it's not sold to Saudi Arabia, according to them.
This is what was happening on Twitter last night.
WWE Twitter world freaked out.
It was like trending all night.
Well, go to Snopes.
What does Snopes have to say?
Oh, they had an answer?
Is WWE being sold?
Research in progress.
Still going.
So, yes.
So, the answer is yes, and they just can't leak it.
Well, the money comes around if it's a substantial increase in money.
I think here's the deal.
I understand tradition, but if these guys want an alternative league to play in,
fucking let them go play.
Who gives a shit?
I don't know.
Why do you need a monopoly of one league?
I mean, you look at the history of-
That's not what the problem is.
What people have a problem with is Jamal Khashoggi.
Jamal Khashoggi, who was a journalist for the Washington Post,
who was dismembered at the Turkish embassy,
supposedly at the instructions of the Saudi royals.
Yeah.
He was critical of them.
Yeah, but I mean, I don't know, man.
I don't know who literally is funding.
They could be just Saudi businessmen that are funding live.
I don't know this particulars, but I don't know.
That's what I'm saying is like, whatever.
If they want to go play in that league and they're comfortable with it,
let them go play, I guess.
Fuck it.
What an American perspective.
Well, let them go play.
It's fucking capitalism, baby.
You want to get that fucking check, dude?
That's the Trump perspective.
Get that fucking check, dude.
Trump told them.
It's an amazing, amazing organization.
They're doing great things.
Doing great things.
Go get that money.
I think, honestly, here's what's really going to happen.
They're going to go get that money and then they're going to leave.
Then it's going to be over and it's going to dissipate into nothing.
Or not.
If they have that kind of cheddar.
They have enough cheddar, they could literally keep this going forever if they
wanted to.
And they wouldn't put a dent in them.
No, no, it's not that.
And you're right.
It's more that what guys are going to be willing to either stay there or
continue to go over there.
So the problem is the talent, right?
It's like anything else.
But they're having the events here.
Correct.
I went to one.
So you don't have to stay.
You don't have to go over there.
I think they only play one over there.
All of them are here.
Like I went to one in Chicago, Rich Harvest Farms.
And yeah, I mean, you know, look, it's really interesting to see the internal
uproar,
which I immediately attribute to golf is an old tradition sport.
So people are really particular.
So they don't even like that someone's entering the conversation.
The other perspective, obviously, is the one that is the bigger deal is people
think it's an immoral move, unethical move.
If it was instead some enormous hedge fund got together and they put all their
money together and decided to fund their own alternative golf agency or golf
tour.
Just as mad.
I think they would be just as upset.
People would be the PGA does not want competition.
They don't like that guys are even thinking about going.
And then I think personally, they're shoehorning in the Saudi stuff to go.
And that's bad.
See, they're more mad about business interests.
They don't give a, they don't fucking care about the Saudi stuff.
How much of an effect is it having on the top players?
Nothing.
I mean, my buddy, my buddy's doing a documentary that's coming out on Netflix.
I think coming up soon in the first quarter of the year about the PGA.
And during it, during the middle of filming, half of the guys left and went to
live.
And he films both perspectives.
So, and it's supposed to be really good.
It's just, it's not changed much.
What's the highest level player?
The highest paycheck?
The highest level, like a guy who's like a championship caliber.
Phil Mickelson is one of the greatest of all time, arguably, in a span of many,
many golfers.
I'm not saying he's like number one.
I'm not saying, I'm just saying he is one of the best of all time.
And he is, I think he's the biggest money, right?
Wasn't he the biggest?
Him or Dustin Johnson.
Yeah, him or DJ got the most.
And what kind of money are we talking about?
150 mil, supposedly, to just come over to play before they won any extra money.
Before they got paid out.
Whoa.
Yeah.
But it's also part of a contract.
No one knows the details of these contracts.
Well, they're private, right?
They don't have to disclose.
Didn't they lose all their sponsors once they went over there, though?
A lot of them lost some of their sponsors.
But I don't know if you need them anymore after 150 mil clears.
Right.
Yeah, I think, I think.
Like, what kind of sponsors are we talking about?
CDW, you know, like business investment firms.
Golf is sponsored heavily by like, you know, TD Ameritrade and shit that you're,
it's a lot of that shit.
Which makes sense.
Yeah.
Because all those guys are the guys who like golf.
Yeah.
That's who likes golf.
Yeah, businessmen.
Old businessmen.
They love to do business meetings on the golf course, right?
Good to see you, Phil.
I bet if you're like a businessman, you probably have to play golf in some
circles.
It's an advantage.
I don't know if in the new era, I'm, you know, my, you know, our age is, what's
going on now in the youth of business?
I don't fucking know what 22-year-olds have to do to like get through in the
corporate world.
But I imagine it's still a part of it to a degree, you know?
It's an inner circle that you're going to get leverage from some way or another.
It's like going to a good school.
It's like, dude, I went to Arizona State.
Did I have any connections?
I made zero fucking, friends.
Yeah.
I made a lot of fucking friends, but none of them could help me business-wise.
It's not like going to Yale.
No, yeah.
You go to an accredited university, someone's daddy is a somebody.
And so that's a big advantage in going to a good school.
And you meet that guy and you might wind up working for his firm.
He might give you a fucking job.
Yeah.
You want a job?
Does your kid want a job?
It's like that shit, but.
Billy's a good kid.
Really good kid.
And he's top of his class.
I'll give him a couple hundred grand a year out of school.
We'll let him fuck off for two years, then we'll figure it out.
Show him how to do coke.
We'll give him a bump.
But so I think, like, at the end of the day, whatever people,
whatever those guys want to do, I just want to watch golf.
So I don't give a shit.
I'm definitely, the PGA is still going to be the number one
because it has, you know, the Masters.
It has tournaments where you're, it's just.
Now, is this the general attitude of most people?
Most people are just letting it go.
They don't care.
I think most guys.
Or some people are outraged.
Most guys my age, I think Jamie might be in a similar boat
where you're like, I don't fucking give a shit.
But my dad's generation is like, you know, fucking ridiculous.
You don't have to go supporting the fucking Saudis.
And you go over there and you're abandoning the ship that, like, you sailed in
on.
You know, the PGA built you and it formed you.
It would be like if the UFC had a big competitive,
had a competitive thing come forward with way more money,
which I don't know if that's happened.
I'm ignorant, you could tell me if it has.
It hasn't.
But if it has, that's kind of the same thing.
There's some guys who get really good deals that they wouldn't get in the UFC.
So what happens is if there's talent that's available that's top flight talent,
Bellator has options.
You know, that's an option.
Yeah.
A lot of guys will go to Bellator because Bellator will pay them more.
But it's like when you get to the World Championship,
like the Conor McGregor, Khabib Nurmagomedov level,
I think they make more money in the UFC.
Right.
I think because they have pay-per-view.
Excuse me, pay-per-view.
You don't see pay-per-view with Bellator.
I think they've done a couple pay-per-views.
I don't think they've been that successful.
Whereas UFC does a pay-per-view every month.
Right.
Every month is an enormous pay-per-view.
There's World Championship fights where you get the best of the best,
and everybody knows who they are.
It's like Q-tips, NFL, NBA.
Like that's MMA at the highest level.
Right.
You can get cotton swabs at CVS that aren't made by Q-tips.
You're asking for Q-tips.
Where's the Q-tips?
Where's Kleenex?
Yeah, where's the Kleenex?
And that, I mean, that's not even the best example, right?
Because th