Name: Joe & Lex React to "#1 Cause of Obesity is Genetics" Claim
Uploaded: 2023-01-31T19:00:55.000Z
Description: Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe & Lex React to "#1 Cause of Obesity is Genetics" Claim' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2023-01-31. Transcript available.

Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe & Lex React to "#1 Cause of Obesity is Genetics" Claim' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2023-01-31. Transcript available.

The Joe Rogan experience. Did you see that lady on 60 Minutes? They interviewed
her. She's some new woman who works in the White House.
And they asked her about obesity. She said the number one cause of obesity is
genetics. And it doesn't matter what you do, you could be a person who has a
perfect diet and exercises and sleeps right and you're still obese.
And the health experts went fucking nuts. That's not what the data shows. The
data shows that most people who are obese have obese parents and they come from
an obese family, but they're all doing the wrong thing.
There's not like a person in that family that's eating grass-fed steak and
running marathons and lifting weights and getting up at 6 in the morning and
getting in a cold plunge and doing all these different things, but it's still
fat as fuck.
And they're watching their calories in and calories out and they're burning,
you know, a thousand calories a day and exercise and they're still fat as fuck.
That's not real.
Like to say that and to say it on 60 Minutes, there's this weird thing going on
where people want to say it's not your fault. And it isn't your fault.
I mean, if you believe in determinism, if you believe in the impact of the
people around you and the environment that you're in, which is most certainly
real, the impact of your parents, the impact of modeling, you're modeling after
other people's bad decision making.
That's all real. That's 100% real. But to say that all obesity is just genetic
is bonkers.
That's a bonkers thing to say. And it discredits all these people that we know
that were obese that without surgery lost all that weight and look great.
Like Ethan Soupley, perfect example. There was a guy that was at one point in
time, like 500 plus pounds, right?
How big was Ethan was yet his biggest? But anyway, doc, Jamie will find out
documented all of it, did it publicly because he was a fucking star.
He's a famous actor, lost all the weight and now looks great and did it through
exercise and discipline and, and even like was really open about the fact that
he gained a lot of it back a couple of times.
He went from 550 to 255. He did that. He did that himself. I mean, he, he, he
did it and he documented it and he had to go through surgery to get the skin
removed so that his, uh, you know, he wasn't like a flying squirrel, but, but
he did it.
And to say that you, that it's all genetic, like, no, he had the same genes.
Like this is the same guy. It's not.
And it's also not inspiring.
Yes.
So like, uh, to, to say that, that, but that's the tension. If you say it's all
genetic or it's significantly genetic, then you're encouraging people to be
more accepting of the challenges of other people's lives.
Like your life might be, uh, everybody's walking a hard road is basically the
philosophical thing that you don't,
just because it's easy for you to exercise doesn't mean it's easy for others to
exercise.
Sort of. But aren't they also saying you don't even have to walk that road
because it's not going to help you?
Yeah, exactly. So that's a very poor statement of that. It's a, it's a trade-off.
I mean, that's, it's a different philosophies.
Pull up, pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
Right.
It's a really inspiring, powerful, empowering philosophy, but it's like, you
know, sometimes it's harder.
You can't, you can't say that because different people have different, some
people don't even have fucking shoes.
Like the idea of pull yourself up by your bootstraps is stupid. And the, I did
it, why didn't you? No, you did it with your life.
The idea that your life, because it was difficult is exactly the same as
somebody else's life, which may be more difficult or have insurmountable
obstacles that are in the way.
There's also like different temperaments, different mental fortitude that
people are just, for whatever reason, from the womb have.
Some people are just determined from the time they're really young. And some
people are just not.
Some people are discouraged easily and some people are not. And I don't know
why.
But to say that there's no way is crazy. To say there's no way is like, that's
irresponsible.
And it's also like to say that and just put it on 60 minutes. Hey guys, that's
not true.
And you could talk to a lot of people that have lost weight and they'll tell
you it's not true.
It doesn't mean that the people who are obese didn't get a really bad hand
genetically, a really bad hand in terms of the environment they grew up with.
Yeah, they got dealt a bad hand. No doubt.
It's not the same as someone who grows up in a house where everybody's skinny
and the fucking whole family runs.
Like, no, it's not going to be the same.
Someone who's eaten organic and the whole family does a lot of exercise and
does stuff together.
Yeah, they're going to be thinner.
Yeah.
But you can't lie.
You can't lie.
And you can't expect me to think that you're really an expert when you say
things like that.
Yeah, but you also can't criticize Bill Gates by saying he has a soft body.
Of course you can.
Of course you're being a comedian.
But he does.
And if he's talking about health, hey, buddy, get your house in order first.
Yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
There's a lot of incredible doctors that don't have their house in order.
That's true.
But if you're giving health advice, one of the core components to health is
your metabolic health, your overall metabolic health.
I'll put up this story.
Right out of the gate, they're talking about using that drug, that semaglutide
stuff we've been talking about.
Is that what they're doing?
So this is like an ad for semaglutide?
I'm not saying that, but that's what it seems like.
Oh, my God.
Because there's even like the whole thing about the shortages of it.
Oh, no.
You know, I think Huberman was discussing this.
He might have been discussing this with Peter Attia.
And they were discussing that semaglutide doesn't just make you lose fat, but
also makes you lose muscle in many cases.
And that's probably because you're not taking in enough food, right?
Because what it's doing is, I'm just guessing.
There might be some other mechanisms involved, obviously.
But if you're like full quicker, which is the idea behind this stuff, it's
almost like you're taking an injection that does the same thing as like a belly
band.
I mean, if you're not eating enough food and you're losing fat that quickly,
you might be losing muscle too.
Because when people go on like binge diets, they starve themselves, they lose
muscle.
Like when guys lose weight for fights and they get down to a very minimalistic,
you know, very minimal calorie input, they lose muscle too.
Like when someone cuts themselves down from like 205 and fights at 170, 100%
they're going to lose some muscle too.
Yeah, but there's an interesting – so fighting is different, but if you're
doing it in a healthy way for your own personal life, there might be some
strength training combined.
I mean, that's a really interesting dynamics, right?
Like how do you lose weight while maintaining muscle mass?
Well, it depends on how much – how many calories you're burning.
Much of the weight loss resulting from GLP-1 agonists is the loss of muscle,
bone mass, and other lean tissue rather than body fat.
Holy shit.
It's dark.
For example, a 2021 – but at least you look good.