Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1936 - Krystal Ball & Saagar Enjeti
Uploaded: 2023-02-04T00:00:00.000Z
Description: Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1936 - Krystal Ball & Saagar Enjeti' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2023-02-04. Transcript available.

Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1936 - Krystal Ball & Saagar Enjeti' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2023-02-04. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1936 - Krystal Ball & Saagar Enjeti

all right now the first time we did this my hair was fucked up the whole time
and
another one of y'all told me about it so i hope we're better friends now
you just don't say a word is that recorded did you record that we should leave
that part
okay number one is different number two i had like this piece was like protruding
i've been bald
like shaved head for like 13 years now or something like that so i don't even
think about it like your
hair's fucked up i'm like who cares yeah you know i get it though i get it yeah
it was a real betrayal
but it's okay we're moving forward we're moving well it's really on him because
you and i were just
getting to know each other so it was really his fault no you guys are a very
unusual combination
it's very funny because they're like having someone who's on the right and
having someone's
on the left it's usually like some sort of a formulaic thing it's like yeah you
know what i
think of hannity and combs yes yes do you remember that yeah oh god because it
was fake that was a
thing exactly it is it's kind of hard to describe what we do because if you say
like you know we're
we're on the right we're on the left it does sound like this sort of thing that
like
yes or like like that terrible cnn show crossfire is the other thing who was on
that one well the
original one was paul begala paul begala and then they did the reboot of it
which was
yeah was tucker was on the right and tucker was on the left yeah and tucker
used to have bow tie
that was when he had the bow tie he's never lived down that like people still
in their head i feel
like that's the picture they get of tucker even though he hasn't worn it but it's
just like like
seared into people's memories that this is what this man wears there's
something about bow ties there's
crossfire yeah there it is oh that's uh carville and there's the the infamous
john stewart when he
just yeah destroyed destroyed that yeah and then they did the remake with uh
newt gingrich oh remember
that yeah elliot spitzer was on there right um no no that was that was another
terrible show newt
gingrich and van jones that was stephanie cutter who was one of the most unlikable
people ever created
and then sd cup is actually a long time she she and i were uh at msnbc together
so she and i are
friends so i can't say anything bad about her she's a very nice person yeah she
seems i love her yeah
yep so anyway i don't know who that other lady is stephanie cutter she works
for obama she didn't laugh
yeah yeah i think is she a hillary person i can't remember yeah anyway it was
bad it was bad anyway
that's not what we're doing i hope what is really no you're not doing that at
all but what is really
fascinating is that having these long-form discussions like you guys do uncensored
and undirected
right without uh an executive leaning over your shoulder and telling you what
to do
it's the best way to discuss things and when i get to hear from a reasonable
person on the left and a
reasonable person on the right who respect each other it's like it gives me
hope like hey we can all get
along like we can sort through what's good and what's bad it's possible that's
that is actually
the core goal of the show because i mean we are living through incredibly like
politically fraught
times where you have a lot of people whose whole business model is to persuade
you that like half
the country hates you and is destroying the country and it's existential and we're
headed to civil war
and so i feel like if saga and i can you know agree on some things which we do
and have debates on topics
that are you know difficult and tense and fraught and be able to do that day
after day in a way that
is respectful that's like not just trying to score points but actually trying
to learn from each other
you know i hope it makes a small difference in the political atmosphere yeah i
mean what i'm most proud of
and like in our analytics is like half the audience is genuinely right and half
the audience is genuinely
left and one of the pitches that we give our people we're like hey if you're
going to support us like
you're not going to agree all the time so you're almost conditioning people to
be like hey this is
a message that i'm buying into and i think the most impactful like sometimes
you don't meet people
or whatever and they're like man you know i watch the show with my dad and i'm
just like dad like
crystals what i believe and dad is like i'm with saga on some things and we sit
down and we talk about it
afterwards and like that with building that for people that's so important man
yeah because that
is one of the dangers in independent media there's a lot that's so exciting
about independent media
right now i mean you see the traditional media is just like dying the ratings
are failing people are
abandoning them in droves obviously trust has completely fallen off a cliff but
there are some
pitfalls in independent media too and one of them is that you develop an
audience that is one ideology
that just wants to hear one thing and is there to hear what they already think
about things
and so i think because of the fact that we have different opinions and our
different you know
political ideologies that has sort of protected us against having an audience
that is there for any
one particular idea and you know we'll see sometimes like people go oh you guys
said this and that we
disagree with you and it's like you know what if this isn't the thing for you
you owe it to yourself
to go somewhere else where you're going to hear every day i guess whatever it
is that you want
to be told from within your bubble well i think you guys have reached a point
where i have to give
you the speech and it's like you got to stop paying attention to the comments
yeah it's so true
i've been giving you this speech i'm telling you i'm right i'm right on this
you are you are right
kyle actually preaches this to me all the time yeah no kyle's kyle's indoctrinated
yeah he's fully
bought in he's fully on board with the philosophy it's so true though it's true
yeah it's like you feel
like you should engage with your fans and everything like that but you just got
to tell them look i love you
guys just i'm not reading your i love you i do this for you i hope you enjoy it
i'm happy that you
enjoy it i'm not reading your the hardest is whenever it's like people who pay
like help support the show
and they'll be like i pay ten dollars a month and like i pay you to represent
me i'm just like all
right man like then maybe you should cancel because that's actually not what we're
here for not reading
that yeah i'm not engaging yeah i'm not you and you yeah i'm not gonna do that
that will get in your
head yeah it will and it will mess with you in terms of like just your clarity
of thought so 100
i mean the trade-off is sometimes people do have good critiques valid critiques
good ideas whatever so
you do you know there is a trade-off there but some of that ultimately i i also
buy into the the rogan
philosophy if just don't read the shit well you guys get bigger and bigger the
numbers become more
and more untenable it just becomes ridiculous yeah you can't engage and it's
also we we are creatures
of community and when there is any negativity that negativity gets highlighted
so much more so than
positivity and by the way you don't need positivity you're good you guys know
you're good you guys you
know what i'm saying like you're objective you neither one of you has is crazy
you know you sometimes
yeah but you're not you don't have a distorted perception of what you do you
guys do great you
do great work you try hard you can't like those little negative ones they will
get in your head
yeah because we're creatures of community and that person that you don't know
that lives in indiana
that is on meth and is like really mad because you know the progressive in her
district doesn't
represent her views and she's like typing the meanest fucking shit like even
though you know that that's
nonsense this is probably a crazy person that's in your head now you know the
toughest thing actually
was when we and by doing the show is actually by disconnecting from the broader
like because
in traditional media the way it works is like we used to go on fox uh when you're
in fox is like an
ecosystem you're in the green room there's all the other conservatives that are
around you and then there's
all these other people who work in conservative inc like conservative world and
you're not if you can't
dissent and actually the best most rewarding part of our show is we're not
connected to the system
anymore i'm like i don't give a like they're like i don't really appreciate
what you know trump's
person or whatever some trump flacky's like you didn't say this about president
trump i'm like i don't
give a i'm like what are you gonna do you're gonna take me on fox i don't care
i don't care i don't
actually want to be on fox i'm like i could be on my own show but being
disconnected from like the broader dc
machine it totally frees you up for conversation on stop the steel anything
anything that's
controversial and i just be like i think this is i truly 100 guys i believe
this is i see
commentators out there who i know don't believe what they're saying and are
saying it because they
have to they have to maintain their context they maintain their salary that's
the corruption that's
and that's like a self-imposed corruption if you're doing that online yes and
some people are doing it
online and you guys are not and i really appreciate it i know that i'm watching
you guys i'm getting
like real opinions like i'm getting well thought out informed opinions and you
know and you guys are
going to be cool to each other i mean we take it we do take it really seriously
and i think we take it
this year even more so than ever um you know our biggest podcast download and
our biggest youtube
numbers last year were right when russia invaded ukraine and you know you talk
about a high
stakes situation where it's very difficult to sort through all the propaganda
to really figure out
what's going on and you know we were trying our best to do that in real time
and the fact that so many
people came to us to try to understand this conflict and what the u.s is
rolling and what it should be
that really meant a lot number one but it also i think put on both of our
shoulders like a real sense
of all right we got to make sure we're on top of our show we got to read as
much as we possibly can
we need to go back and look at like russian nuclear doctrine and just go as
deep as we possibly
you know are capable of on this topic because um there are a lot of people who
tell us we're
we're it in terms of the news that they consume so we have shifted to focusing
you know we still do like
fun and stupid and silly topics or whatever and indulge whatever our little
hobby horse interests
are but we've shifted the program somewhat to do more hard news um because we
care about it because
it's important because there are a lot of people are looking to us to
understand what's going on
in the world and also because ultimately you know if there's going to be an
alternative to the you know
liars and propagandists at places like cnn and fox news and msnbc and some of
the mainstream print
outlets as well you're going to have to have that kind of you know serious
coverage of hard news
events that people feel like they can trust what you're presenting them and
listen we say all the
time sometimes we're going to up sometimes we're going to be wrong about
something we're going to
predict something it doesn't happen whatever that is going to happen 100 of the
time but what you
can count on as far as we are always going to come back we're going to correct
it we're going to own
up to the mistakes and we are trying from the beginning our very best to sort
through what
the truth of the situation is yeah every six months i do a monologue i'm like
here's everything i got
wrong i was 