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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'How Author Mark Greaney Feels About "The Gray Man" Adaptation of His Book' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2023-02-16. Transcript available.

- The Joe Rogan Experience.
- Yeah, I enjoyed "The Gray Man" movie,
but it was not as good as your book.
- Well, thank you for saying that, I appreciate it.
- It just wasn't the same story.
- Yeah.
- Like, they Hollywoodized it.
- Absolutely, and you know, I liked it,
and what I say, and I don't know how this makes me sound,
it's like the movie is the best possible commercial
for my writing, and if you're a writer,
you want eyeballs on your work,
and so it's, I love the movie.
And, you know, there's bits of dialogue in there
and things they did with the plot that I really liked,
but, you know, it's not as gritty, it's not--
- Not nearly.
- Yeah, you know, and they do things
that they have to do shorthand in a movie.
I get 100,000 words to write a book,
or 150,000 words to write a book,
so I have some luxuries that, you know,
they don't have putting something on the screen,
but I like the fact that they're different
because there's still a reason to read my book.
If you saw the movie and enjoyed it,
hopefully it turns you onto the book
and then you see something different in there.
- No, I definitely think there's that element to it
because it is, it's for sure a Hollywoodized version
of these gritty books that you write.
- Yeah.
- But it's also good.
- Yeah.
- Like, if you didn't know about the book,
and you just saw the movie, it's good.
- Yeah, they're two different things.
- But the book is so much fucking nastier.
- Thank you.
- And also Court Gentry.
- I said thank you.
I don't know if that's what I should say.
- You should, it's good.
But Court Gentry in your books
is just so much different than Ryan in the movies.
It's just like.
- Yeah, I mean, they did a lot without dialogue,
which I appreciated and I liked, you know,
he'd do a lot with a look.
But I mean, when you, in a book,
you're able to get into the character's head
quite a bit more. - Yeah.
- So it's a different experience.
- If you could pick a person, like an actor,
if you could start from scratch, no disrespect to,
is Ryan Reynolds or Ryan?
- Gosling. - Gosling.
- Yeah.
- Why do I always fuck that up?
I always fuck that up.
I couldn't pick either one of them
out of a fucking lineup to save my life.
Gosling, Ryan Gosling.
I really like the guy too, by the way.
Who would you pick if you were, if, you know,
just like, if you could just, like, say any actor,
like, who do you think you would go with?
- You know, that's, it's a tough question
because that thing has been in Hollywood,
The Gray Man's been in Hollywood since two months
before the little paperback came out in 2009.
So it's been bouncing around.
And I've heard every actor, at one point,
Brad Pitt was signed onto it and--
- Really?
- Yeah, yeah, like back 2011 or something.
And then it fell apart and it came back.
And each time they would send me a script
or whoever was doing it.
And at one point, Charlize Theron wanted to do it.
And they rewrote-- - What?
- Yeah, they rewrote the whole script.
- She wanted to be the girl?
- No, she wanted to be Court Gentry.
- Oh my God.
- And so they wrote a script for it
and it was good screenwriters.
And I remember reading the script going like--
- Was it the gray woman
or did you call her the gray non-binary person?
- It was still the gray man.
Her name was still Court Gentry.
But everything-- - What?
- Everything was different.
And they never really explained,
is that short for Courtney or something?
They never-- - Oh my God.
- But it was just a completely different plot.
- Thank God they didn't do that.
I thought if they changed, you know, like if--
and I love her because she had just done Fury Road.
So, I mean, I'd love to write something for her to be in.
- I didn't see Fury Road.
- Oh, the Mad Max.
- Oh, Mad Max.
Yeah. - Yeah, okay.
- And she was so good.
But as an author, you couldn't put out the gray man novel
with her face on it and they opened the book
and it has nothing to do, you know, with a woman.
And as much as I love her, like I was like,
well, this isn't gonna, you know, sell books
or get eyes in my work.
The screenplay was actually really good,
but I remember thinking if I went to the theater
and saw it and it had a different title,
I would not even know.
There'd be like one scene where I'm like,
oh yeah, I did a thing on a plane too.
You know, it was so different.
It was a completely different plot.
It was good.
I wish they'd make it and call it something else.
- Yeah, make it and call it something else.
You don't call it the gray man.
It's, that's such a weird choice.
- Yeah, yeah.
At one point, like real early on when it first got option,
people were asking me who should play the character.
And I thought it would be somebody who's not like,
you know, Rambo or anything like that.
So I was saying like Casey Affleck or somebody like that.
- Oh, interesting.
- That you wouldn't expect, you know,
in a big action film.
But wouldn't you need someone who's like physically formidable?
- You know, I don't, the thing is, is I've written 12 books
and I've never once had him working out.
I've never showed him working out, you know,
or even really training because-
- You talked a couple of times about him doing like calisthenics
or something.
- Yeah, I've thrown it in a little bit because I'm like,
all right, how does this possibly happen?
How does he keep these perishable skills up and his fitness up?
But, you know, there's, there's actors that like, I really like, like Max Martini.
I don't know if you knew who that is.
- I don't know who that is.
- You'd know him if you saw him.
He's, he, he was in 13 Hours.
It was a really good movie and the Michael Bay film.
Wow. Look at that. That's amazing.
And so he's, you know, he's like a formidable dude and a really good actor.
But there's, you know, he doesn't, I like the physical presence of him.
- Yeah. He might be good too, because even though he's kind of recognizable,
it's not Brad Pitt.
Like every time Brad Pitt's in a movie, it's Brad Pitt.
If that guy's in a movie, you could say,
Oh, I think I've seen that guy in something before, but, but he's court gentry.
- Yeah, exactly.
Well, I got a ton of people mad that Ryan Gosling was in it before it came out.
And they were like, you need to get some unknown guy because nobody recognizes
the great man.
And I'm like, you probably don't understand how $200 million movies work.
They don't, what we're going to do is we're going to get this guy out, you know,
find the guy at the mall and make him that, you know, it's just not how it
works.
- It's too bad because I, I don't really know if it makes a difference.
I think they think it makes a difference, but I think if you have a movie that
has an amazing plot
and a great like trailer and it looks wild and like people, I think people get
sucked into it.
Anyway.
- Yeah. And, and honestly, like one of the best films I've ever seen in my life,
which is an action film, it's a Korean film called the man from nowhere.
And it's also, and fortunately it came out after the gray man did.
Otherwise people would think I'd ripped off the gray man.
Because it's about a former assassin who's trying to lay low and he ends up
having to rescue this girl.
- Well, the book though came so much earlier than the movie.
Like how many years was it between you writing the book and then the film
coming out?
- I wrote the book in 2007, it came out in '09 and it, and the film came out in
'22.
And so it's like 13 years, I was still lucky.
You know, everybody's like, I bet you hate that you had to wait this long.
And I'm like, if, you know, if I was an 85 year old man and they,
and they made a film out of one of my books, I'd be thrilled.
- Yeah, it's a rare thing, right? - For sure.
- Especially a big blockbuster film with Ryan Gosling?
- You're getting it. - Gosling.
- There it is. - There we go.
- Chris Evans was great in that too.
- Yeah, he was terrific.
- Yeah, he really played an awesome version of the character you wrote in the
book.
- Yeah, and that's an example of a difference in the film that I liked.
You know, because my Lloyd in the book is not like a physical presence.
He's more of like the asshole mastermind of the whole thing.
- Right.
- But I mean, obviously if they can get Chris Evans in their film,
they're going to beef up his role and make it a more mano-a-mano thing.
And I thought that was fabulous.
- Yeah, and Chris Evans just really nailed it.
He played the perfect douchebag, asshole, cocky, confident, psychopath.
- Yeah, it looked like he was having fun.
- Yes.
- Which is what you like to say.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was great. It was great.
- I wasn't closely involved with it.
I went out and met the Russo brothers when they were going to write the script
and spent a few days with them talking about the story and where the future
story,
because they wanted it to be a franchise from the beginning.
But I wasn't involved in the day-to-day, but I was sent scripts.
Joe sent me the script that he wrote.
And then I saw the shooting script like right when they were shooting.
So that was my involvement with it.
And then I would be on Twitter and I'd see Ryan Gosling dressed up as a gray
man on Twitter.
You know, I didn't see it any way anybody else would have seen it, you know.
- Are they doing a series? Are they going to continue?
- They're doing a second one, yeah.
- Really?
- Yeah, and they're writing a spin-off series, which I know nothing about.
But the guy who wrote Deadpool, Rhett Reese, I think is his name.
- They're writing a spin-off based on who?
- Someone in the series.
And I really don't know. I'm not being cagey.
- Really?
- Yeah, I just know that that's happening.
- That's even weirder.
So now someone's like taking your world and it's almost like the Spider-Man
thing.
- Yeah, I mean, it depends on what they do.
If they take a character like Zoya, who's this former Russian foreign
intelligence officer.
- I love that character.
- Thank you, thanks.
You know, if they did something with her, that would be cool.
If they did something with Zack Hightower, who's kind of like his on and off
again sidekick,
you know, that would be cool, but I don't know what it is.
But they are doing a sequel with Ryan Gosling in the role.
- Have they started that yet?
- They're writing the script, or Steve McFeely's writing the script,
one of the screenwriters on Greyman.
- And is it based on any of your books?
- It's going to be based on one of the books.
- Which book?
- You don't want to tell?
- No, I don't know that. I didn't ask permission.
- If you're allowed.
- I didn't ask permission.
- Okay, I get it.
- My whole point in coming here today was to walk out of here and not go,
"Oh my god, I can't believe I just said that."
- I think we're good so far.
- That was pretty close.
- That was close.
- Well, you know, you did a good job.
You navigated it.
Is it a weird thing to watch someone change your script?
And to change the plot and change how the characters interact?
- It is really weird.
I think I went into it with the right mindset that, you know, this was a film
representation.
And I know that the directors are like really creative people and the screenwriters
and cinematographers
and actors.
And they don't look at it as their job that they're engineers that are going to
take a piece of
paper and turn it into celluloid with everyone doing exactly the same thing.
So I never expected that.
There are places in there where I think I really like what they did.
And there's places in there where it's like, I think my line landed a little
bit better,
you know, like, and that actually made me happy.
I wasn't mad that like they didn't do it my way.
It's more like, okay, I think I have something to offer still instead of, you
know, all these big
shots with all this money come and make something so like, you know, vastly
superior to the little
paperback that I wrote, you know, it's like, I think there's places where my
stuff holds up and
there's stuff in there that I think is fantastic too.
But it is really strange.
The toughest thing is the complaints from fans that aren't happy because of the
changes.
So yeah, people just pigeonhole me all the time at a conference or something.
And they'll be like, in the movie, they did this.
And in the book, they did this.
And I was like, yeah, I wrote the book and I saw the movie.
So this whole interaction is like, I don't know what to tell you.
You know, it's like, I can't speak for them.
And people will email me and they're like, you've screwed up.
You gave it away.
You know, it was all for the money or whatever.
And you're like, I didn't have any creative control.
I'm not Stephen King or John Grusham or one of these guys.
Right.
You know, I had this little paperback that I got a little bit of money
advanced to put out.
And they offered, you know, to option it in Hollywood.
And my answer was yes.
It wasn't like, let me look at page 94 of the contract.
Right.
Or I'm going to come back and say, I want creative control.
And I want to play the gray man in the movie or whatever.
It's like, that's how you don't get a movie made.
Well, Stephen King famously didn't like The Shining.
Yeah.
Which is wild, right?
Because it's Stanley Kubrick and it's Jack Nicholson.
And it's an amazing movie.
Yeah.
But the movie was very different than his book.
In his book, the character, Jack, it takes a long time before he goes crazy.
And he starts out sane.
Yeah.
He starts out just a troubled former alcoholic who's trying to get his life
together
and do right by his family.
And he gets this opportunity to look over this hotel and he's going to write
this book.
And then along the way, he goes nuts.
Yeah, that's the difference between a book and a movie.
I like that added stuff.
I think Tom Clancy didn't like Harrison Ford in the Jack Ryan films.
Really?
And I think it was just an age thing because in his head, he was pretty literal
about,
you know, at this stage when I wrote this book, he's a young CIA analyst or
whatever.
And I think Harrison Ford was older.
And I'm not 100% sure about that.
But I do know that, you know, I've read places.
Tom never told me this, but that he wasn't a big fan of those.
And I think those are the best ones.
I don't know, Red October was good.
I never saw any of his, what ones were his?
Patriot Games, Clearing Present Danger.
And those were all Harrison Ford?
Yeah.
Yeah.
No kidding.
Yeah, yeah.
And I think he did a good, they did a great job.
Alec Baldwin was great in Red October.
Yeah.
And too bad he didn't stick with it.
I forgot about Red October.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I forgot about Patriot Games too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, it's like, it's so interesting when you get a known commodity, like a
famous celebrity
that comes in and takes over a role that you've created.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I, I, you know, I was, I was happy with Ryan Gosling.
Like he, I just, as I described the gray man, the, the look is pretty similar
and he didn't,
he didn't over bake it.
I feel like the scenes with the, the girl and the, that he's protecting could
have turned
schmaltzy and cheesy and they didn't.
And I like that in my book.
I like it a little bit better because the, the girl actually has some agency in
her own
rescue.
She, she does some things to help herself.
Whereas this one, she's just sort of like protected, you know, by, by gentry.
I mean, she, she kind of saves the day to some degree too.
You know, you can pick little things.
The very first scene in the movie, Billy Bob Thornton is a CIA guy sitting in a
prison with
a dude saying, here's the name of our secret CIA program.
And here's what it does.
Would you like to join?
Well, that's how that works.
You know, and there's a, the funniest part was that there's a scene, a big
action scene in Prague.
It takes place in Prague and gray man is handcuffed to a, to a bench and he's
shooting bad guys
and he can't get away.
And there's cops and dead cops around him.
And then the bad guys, Chris Evans sending the bad guys in from all directions.
And at one point he reaches over to this cop and pulls a frag grenade off the
guy's utility belt.
And I'm like, the cops in Prague carry frags.
That's some hardcore cops.
And he throws it, blows something up and I'm like, but it works in the movie.
You know, it's like nobody's spending that much time looking at it unless you're
the idiot that wrote it.

How Author Mark Greaney Feels About "The Gray Man" Adaptation of His Book

- The Joe Rogan Experience.
- Yeah, I enjoyed "The Gray Man" movie,
but it was not as good as your book.
- Well, thank you for saying that, I appreciate it.
- It just wasn't the same story.
- Yeah.
- Like, they Hollywoodized it.
- Absolutely, and you know, I liked it,
and what I say, and I don't know how this makes me sound,
it's like the movie is the best possible commercial
for my writing, and if you're a writer,
you want eyeballs on your work,
and so it's, I love the movie.
And, you know, there's bits of dialogue in there
and things they did with the plot that I really liked,
but, you know, it's not as gritty, it's not--
- Not nearly.
- Yeah, you know, and they do things
that they have to do shorthand in a movie.
I get 100,000 words to write a book,
or 150,000 words to write a book,
so I have some luxuries that, you know,
they don't have putting something on the screen,
but I like the fact that they're different
because there's still a reason to read my book.
If you saw the movie and enjoyed it,
hopefully it turns you onto the book
and then you see something different in there.
- No, I definitely think there's that element to it
because it is, it's for sure a Hollywoodized version
of these gritty books that you write.
- Yeah.
- But it's also good.
- Yeah.
- Like, if you didn't know about the book,
and you just saw the movie, it's good.
- Yeah, they're two different things.
- But the book is so much fucking nastier.
- Thank you.
- And also Court Gentry.
- I said thank you.
I don't know if that's what I should say.
- You should, it's good.
But Court Gentry in your books
is just so much different than Ryan in the movies.
It's just like.
- Yeah, I mean, they did a lot without dialogue,
which I appreciated and I liked, you know,
he'd do a lot with a look.
But I mean, when you, in a book,
you're able to get into the character's head
quite a bit more. - Yeah.
- So it's a different experience.
- If you could pick a person, like an actor,
if you could start from scratch, no disrespect to,
is Ryan Reynolds or Ryan?
- Gosling. - Gosling.
- Yeah.
- Why do I always fuck that up?
I always fuck that up.
I couldn't pick either one of them
out of a fucking lineup to save my life.
Gosling, Ryan Gosling.
I really like the guy too, by the way.
Who would you pick if you were, if, you know,
just like, if you could just, like, say any actor,
like, who do you think you would go with?
- You know, that's, it's a tough question
because that thing has been in Hollywood,
The Gray Man's been in Hollywood since two months
before the little paperback came out in 2009.
So it's been bouncing around.
And I've heard every actor, at one point,
Brad Pitt was signed onto it and--
- Really?
- Yeah, yeah, like back 2011 or something.
And then it fell apart and it came back.
And each time they would send me a script
or whoever was doing it.
And at one point, Charlize Theron wanted to do it.
And they rewrote-- - What?
- Yeah, they rewrote the whole script.
- She wanted to be the girl?
- No, she wanted to be Court Gentry.
- Oh my God.
- And so they wrote a script for it
and it was good screenwriters.
And I remember reading the script going like--
- Was it the gray woman
or did you call her the gray non-binary person?
- It was still the gray man.
Her name was still Court Gentry.
But everything-- - What?
- Everything was different.
And they never really explained,
is that short for Courtney or something?
They never-- - Oh my God.
- But it was just a completely different plot.
- Thank God they didn't do that.
I thought if they changed, you know, like if--
and I love her because she had just done Fury Road.
So, I mean, I'd love to write something for her to be in.
- I didn't see Fury Road.
- Oh, the Mad Max.
- Oh, Mad Max.
Yeah. - Yeah, okay.
- And she was so good.
But as an author, you couldn't put out the gray man novel
with her face on it and they opened the book
and it has nothing to do, you know, with a woman.
And as much as I love her, like I was like,
well, this isn't gonna, you know, sell books
or get eyes in my work.
The screenplay was actually really good,
but I remember thinking if I went to the theater
and saw it and it had a different title,
I would not even know.
There'd be like one scene where I'm like,
oh yeah, I did a thing on a plane too.
You know, it was so different.
It was a completely different plot.
It was good.
I wish they'd make it and call it something else.
- Yeah, make it and call it something else.
You don't call it the gray man.
It's, that's such a weird choice.
- Yeah, yeah.
At one point, like real early on when it first got option,
people were asking me who should play the character.
And I thought it would be somebody who's not like,
you know, Rambo or anything like that.
So I was saying like Casey Affleck or somebody like that.
- Oh, interesting.
- That you wouldn't expect, you know,
in a big action film.
But wouldn't you need someone who's like physically formidable?
- You know, I don't, the thing is, is I've written 12 books
and I've never once had him working out.
I've never showed him working out, you know,
or even really training because-
- You talked a couple of times about him doing like calisthenics
or something.
- Yeah, I've thrown it in a little bit because I'm like,
all right, how does this possibly happen?
How does he keep these perishable skills up and his fitness up?
But, you know, there's, there's actors that like, I really like, like Max Martini.
I don't know if you knew who that is.
- I don't know who that is.
- You'd know him if you saw him.
He's, he, he was in 13 Hours.
It was a really good movie and the Michael Bay film.
Wow. Look at that. That's amazing.
And so he's, you know, he's like a formidable dude and a really good actor.
But there's, you know, he doesn't, I like the physical presence of him.
- Yeah. He might be good too, because even though he's kind of recognizable,
it's not Brad Pitt.
Like every time Brad Pitt's in a movie, it's Brad Pitt.
If that guy's in a movie, you could say,
Oh, I think I've seen that guy in something before, but, but he's court gentry.
- Yeah, exactly.
Well, I got a ton of people mad that Ryan Gosling was in it before it came out.
And they were like, you need to get some unknown guy because nobody recognizes
the great man.
And I'm like, you probably don't understand how $200 million movies work.
They don't, what we're going to do is we're going to get this guy out, you know,
find the guy at the mall and make him that, you know, it's just not how it
works.
- It's too bad because I, I don't really know if it makes a difference.
I think they think it makes a difference, but I think if you have a movie that
has an amazing plot
and a great like trailer and it looks wild and like people, I think people get
sucked into it.
Anyway.
- Yeah. And, and honestly, like one of the best films I've ever seen in my life,
which is an action film, it's a Korean film called the man from nowhere.
And it's also, and fortunately it came out after the gray man did.
Otherwise people would think I'd ripped off the gray man.
Because it's about a former assassin who's trying to lay low and he ends up
having to rescue this girl.
- Well, the book though came so much earlier than the movie.
Like how many years was it between you writing the book and then the film
coming out?
- I wrote the book in 2007, it came out in '09 and it, and the film came out in
'22.
And so it's like 13 years, I was still lucky.
You know, everybody's like, I bet you hate that you had to wait this long.
And I'm like, if, you know, if I was an 85 year old man and they,
and they made a film out of one of my books, I'd be thrilled.
- Yeah, it's a rare thing, right? - For sure.
- Especially a big blockbuster film with Ryan Gosling?
- You're getting it. - Gosling.
- There it is. - There we go.
- Chris Evans was great in that too.
- Yeah, he was terrific.
- Yeah, he really played an awesome version of the character you wrote in the
book.
- Yeah, and that's an example of a difference in the film that I liked.
You know, because my Lloyd in the book is not like a physical presence.
He's more of like the asshole mastermind of the whole thing.
- Right.
- But I mean, obviously if they can get Chris Evans in their film,
they're going to beef up his role and make it a more mano-a-mano thing.
And I thought that was fabulous.
- Yeah, and Chris Evans just really nailed it.
He played the perfect douchebag, asshole, cocky, confident, psychopath.
- Yeah, it looked like he was having fun.
- Yes.
- Which is what you like to say.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was great. It was great.
- I wasn't closely involved with it.
I went out and met the Russo brothers when they were going to write the script
and spent a few days with them talking about the story and where the future
story,
because they wanted it to be a franchise from the beginning.
But I wasn't involved in the day-to-day, but I was sent scripts.
Joe sent me the script that he wrote.
And then I saw the shooting script like right when they were shooting.
So that was my involvement with it.
And then I would be on Twitter and I'd see Ryan Gosling dressed up as a gray
man on Twitter.
You know, I didn't see it any way anybody else would have seen it, you know.
- Are they doing a series? Are they going to continue?
- They're doing a second one, yeah.
- Really?
- Yeah, and they're writing a spin-off series, which I know nothing about.
But the guy who wrote Deadpool, Rhett Reese, I think is his name.
- They're writing a spin-off based on who?
- Someone in the series.
And I really don't know. I'm not being cagey.
- Really?
- Yeah, I just know that that's happening.
- That's even weirder.
So now someone's like taking your world and it's almost like the Spider-Man
thing.
- Yeah, I mean, it depends on what they do.
If they take a character like Zoya, who's this former Russian foreign
intelligence officer.
- I love that character.
- Thank you, thanks.
You know, if they did something with her, that would be cool.
If they did something with Zack Hightower, who's kind of like his on and off
again sidekick,
you know, that would be cool, but I don't know what it is.
But they are doing a sequel with Ryan Gosling in the role.
- Have they started that yet?
- They're writing the script, or Steve McFeely's writing the script,
one of the screenwriters on Greyman.
- And is it based on any of your books?
- It's going to be based on one of the books.
- Which book?
- You don't want to tell?
- No, I don't know that. I didn't ask permission.
- If you're allowed.
- I didn't ask permission.
- Okay, I get it.
- My whole point in coming here today was to walk out of here and not go,
"Oh my god, I can't believe I just said that."
- I think we're good so far.
- That was pretty close.
- That was close.
- Well, you know, you did a good job.
You navigated it.
Is it a weird thing to watch someone change your script?
And to change the plot and change how the characters interact?
- It is really weird.
I think I went into it with the right mindset that, you know, this was a film
representation.
And I know that the directors are like really creative people and the screenwriters
and cinematographers
and actors.
And they don't look at it as their job that they're engineers that are going to
take a piece of
paper and turn it into celluloid with everyone doing exactly the same thing.
So I never expected that.
There are places in there where I think I really like what they did.
And there's places in there where it's like, I think my line landed a little
bit better,
you know, like, and that actually made me happy.
I wasn't mad that like they didn't do it my way.
It's more like, okay, I think I have something to offer still instead of, you
know, all these big
shots with all this money come and make something so like, you know, vastly
superior to the little
paperback that I wrote, you know, it's like, I think there's places where my
stuff holds up and
there's stuff in there that I think is fantastic too.
But it