Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1943 - Joel Turner
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1943 - Joel Turner' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2023-02-17. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1943 - Joel Turner

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And we're up.
What's up, Joel? How are you? Good to see you, brother.
I'm good. Thanks for having me, man.
I'm very happy to talk to you because, you know, I think that what you teach
applies to not just archery,
but it applies to life, it applies to anxiety-filled situations, and you have
figured out this one element of archery
that so many people can't seem to put their finger on, and it's the anxiety of
the shot.
You have figured this out in a way that is so useful, and it's so repeatable,
and I think it's so important,
and I think a lot of people are going to go, what, you're going to just talk
about archery shots?
I think this applies to life.
Yeah.
What you've done with your shot IQ system, and so let me explain to people that
don't understand this.
Bow hunting and archery, especially competitive archery, it oftentimes boils
down to this one moment,
and when you have one moment, and there's so much anxiety on this one moment,
people have a tendency to panic and to rush through things,
and I think people have found that in life, in many situations, in different
occupations, in different practices and disciplines,
this anticipation and anxiety of one moment where they lose their mind and they
don't even remember what happened.
It's like, oh, and they can't keep their shit together.
You have figured out a way to make a system where you have very clear, defined
guidelines that people can follow,
where they could stay in the moment and not lose their fucking mind at this
moment of anticipation.
Right.
And I think the success speaks to itself.
Your son, who's an incredible archer, who's been taught by you, using your
methods, is now, what is he number one in the world?
Well, the ranking system is weird, but he's won every major indoor archery
event that there is.
And he's 15.
Well, he just turned 16.
Oh, boy, he's old.
He's driving now, so that's scary as hell.
But so he won Vegas at 15, just, I mean, he turned 15 the day before, and then
he wins Vegas, which is the biggest indoor archery shoot there is.
It's huge.
Yeah.
And then just to watch him up there is just amazing to know that, I mean, I can
watch him.
I'm like, oh, yeah, this is going in, right?
Just you can see it in their eye.
And I see this in a lot of people that they don't have that look, you know, it's,
they have that anxiety, that look.
It's like, oh, what's happening?
And they're just letting things happen.
And with Bodie, he's just like, this is going in.
It was so funny because he just won Lancaster, the Lancaster Classic, which is
another huge indoor archery shoot.
And when you shoot Lancaster, you have to, you're in the practice range, and he
came in first seed because he shot the second ever, well, there's been, I think,
five people now in history that have shot a, well, four people that have shot a
660 qualification round.
Now, let's explain what that means.
That is, that is hitting a penny every time, 60 arrows in a row.
Which is insane.
At 20 yards.
The amount of concentration involved in that.
And a lot of people are like, 20 yards is not that far.
Listen.
It's a penny.
You're shooting a penny, and you're shooting it 60 times in a row.
In a row, right.
Which is just the possibility of just a little fuck up.
And when you're at, like, number 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, and every one of them,
flop, flop, flop.
Yeah.
So he, he shoots a 660.
So he shot one last year, 660 last year.
So he was the third one in history to do it.
And then this year he did it again.
So now he's the first person in history to shoot two 660s back-to-back.
So then he gets, so he comes in the elimination rounds, wins those.
And so he comes in first seed for the big shoot-off, which is you're up on a
stage, and it's just you.
It's head-to-head.
So it's you and another person.
And when you start, you come in first seed, the person that's in front of you
that maybe came in fourth, fifth, sixth, whatever, they get to shoot out on the
stage against somebody.
So they actually get to zero their bow because the lighting's different, and it's
huge.
I mean, you're trying to hit this penny.
And then they have a 12 ring that's the size of their arrow.
Basically, it's like 27 diameter, 2764th diameter.
It's no bigger than their arrow.
And that's off to the side.
And it's down below.
So if you miss that, you get a 7 or an 8, and you're out.
Yeah.
You're done at that point.
So he comes in first seed, and he misses the X on a couple of them, and then
the other person misses the X.
And it's funny because you can see him.
He's up there, and he always clicks his sight.
And I'm like, how many clicks was that?
He's like, it was just enough.
I mean, he's like, you can't even tell what he does.
So he's just adjusting a tiny, tiny bit.
Yeah, so he's adjusting to the lighting.
And so he comes, and he shoots those two 10s, not an X, and then he starts,
then he hits an inside out.
And he looks, he turns, I'm in the coach's box behind him.
He turns to me and goes, it's sighted in now.
And I'm like, sweep the leg, boy, right?
That's what I always tell.
Sweep the leg, and it was just donut after donut after that.
And then the other guy caught up, shot a 12 to catch him.
And so now they got three-arrow shoot off, and the first arrow is for score.
And they have that 12 ring.
And Bodie's sitting there listening to the guy.
And Bodie's got his stabilizer, because everybody usually steps.
There's a red button on the stage.
If you hit that red button, you then, you know, then it's a 12.
Then you've got to shoot for the 12.
So he hits the red button, but he hits it with a stabilizer.
So the guy's explaining the shoot off, and Bodie's just hovering his stabilizer
over, just looking at the guy, right?
And he's like, are you done yet?
Are you done yet?
And finally just, dunk, and he hits that red button with a stabilizer, and then
just shoots a 12.
And the other guy missed the 12.
So it was pretty cool.
Wow.
Yeah, it was awesome to see.
Tell everybody your background.
How did you get into this?
Like, tell your background with SWAT and all that.
So I started shooting at a really young age, but I was obsessed with shooting.
Like, when we, I have two older brothers, and when we turned nine years old, my
dad would buy us a BB gun.
And my two older brothers didn't shoot them that much.
I broke both of their BB guns.
I shot them so much.
So when I turned nine, I got a Daisy 880 power line.
And by God, that is some highfalutin stuff, right, for me.
So I get this 880 power line.
I shot it so much, I broke it.
Air rifles, 22 long rifles.
I was, I was good, right?
You put me on a centerfire rifle like my dad did when I was five years old
shooting a 30-30.
I was worthless.
As soon as the, as soon as you'd get your sight on, man, I would just hammer
the crap out of that trigger.
And that followed me through adolescence, early teens, 20s, right?
So we should explain that hammering is like, you're jerking the trigger.
You're jerking the trigger, which...
Anxiety.
Yeah.
So now I know that that's the core problem in shooting, right?
Your mind will not allow you to cause your body impact as a surprise.
And it took me a lifetime to figure out what the true problem was.
And that's where everybody's kind of skipped around it.
So there I am at five years old shooting this 30-30.
Oh, I pressed the trigger perfectly one time.
And as soon as I felt that recoil the second time, when I racked that lever and
I shot it the second time,
I guarantee you, I closed my eyes, clenched my body as I pressed the trigger.
So you're worried about the recoil.
It all gets linked together.
It's smoke, fire, noise, all kinds of negative things that happen, right?
And I was experiencing the same thing in archery.
I started shooting a bow when I was seven.
And by the age of eight, I'm locked completely off a target,
meaning I would draw the bow back and the targets level with me and I'm aiming
at the floor, right?
And then you would jump that thing up as we see many archers do now.
They're locked off target.
They jump up and let the string go at the same time.
It all gets linked together so that your body can brace you for impact.
And people don't see archery as an explosion.
They see it as, well, it's just shooting a bow, right?
But shot anticipation or shot control is a lot easier with a firearm because
the explosion happens in the apparatus.
It imparts recoil on you, but it's not actually, the explosion is in the
apparatus.
Whereas in archery, the explosion is in your body, right?
It's that sudden release of energy that happens.
So shot anticipation with archery is a hundredfold what it is with a firearm.
It's also the amount of movement changes so much where the arrow goes because
it's not going as fast and it's subject to all your little tweaks.
Right, all the little nuances of it.
So all those motor programs that get linked to that punching of the trigger,
that's what deviates our point of impact.
So there I was at eight years old just loving archery watching that arrow fly,
but not good at it, right?
And then, so then I started bow hunting at 14 years old and not doing well.
I mean, I was locked off target on these critters and missing and missing and
missing.
It took me 13 years to kill a bull elk with my bow because I couldn't handle it.
I just would lose my shit completely.
Like many, many, many people.
Oh, it was horrible.
So that was my background.
So I've got this sounding board of bow hunting where I'm failing.
I've got rifle hunting where I'm failing.
And then I decided to become a cop, right?
Well, before I was a cop, I was a wildlife specialist for USDA Wildlife
Services where I got to shoot stuff every day, right?
Animal damage control, all that stuff.
And I got to shoot stuff every day with an air rifle.
So I was good, right?
And shotgun shooting, good at that, right?
But when it came to precision rifle stuff, again, I was worthless.
I was not your guy to be on a coyote contract when you're having to shoot coyotes
in the middle of a city with a suppressed .243.
It just wouldn't work out for me because as soon as I would get on that thing,
my only thought process was it's going to get away.
It's going to get away.
So that would cause that anxiety, that rush, and you would rush the shot.
So there I was.
Then I decided to become a cop.
My older brother was a cop.
My mom was in law enforcement.
So I decided to be a cop.
And at the range, I knew that, you know, when I turned 21, first thing I did
was bought my concealed weapons permit in Washington, bought a pistol.
And for some reason, that pistol always shot low and left.
I'm like, what is the deal with these sights, right?
It's always shooting low and left.
So I get in the academy, and I bought a different pistol.
I bought a 1911 that's got a much shorter trigger stroke on it.
And I basically fixed a mental problem with mechanical means at that point
because I got through the academy starting to realize what I needed to do to
control a shot.
But with that pistol, it was easy.
And my buddy was so bad in the academy with his Glock that he had to then—he
bought my pistol from me because that's the only thing that got him through the
academy was buying my pistol from me.
I bought another one.
So we both fixed our mental problem with mechanical means.
And I ended up taking first in firearms in my academy class not knowing how I
did it.
But that's where I started to feel this love for instruction because I got to
help some people with it.
And so things progressed.
Two years in law enforcement, then I got firearms instructor because I had this
interest in firearms and kind of figuring things out.
And then I got on the SWAT team, same time, 2003.
So that's, you know, I spent 18-plus years on the SWAT team and ended up being
the sniper team leader.
And then eventually the team leader for the team.
But it was becoming the lead firearms instructor 