Name: Joe Declares Jon Jones "The Goat" After Ciryl Gane Win
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Declares Jon Jones "The Goat" After Ciryl Gane Win' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2023-03-16. Transcript available.

The Joe Rogan experience.
But I remember, and I think in my mind is undeniably the GOAT, as again, a just
above casual fan, John Jones.
John Jones is the GOAT.
He's the GOAT.
Now, it's undeniable.
It's undeniable.
There was all this debate until he submitted Cyril Ghosn and became the heavyweight
champion.
No one can fuck with that.
Smashed him, bro.
Smashed him.
And Cyril looked kind of unbeatable up until the Francis fight.
Well, the Francis fight exposed one aspect of his game that you're never going
to beat John in, and that's the wrestling.
And then everybody said, well, he didn't know that Francis was going to wrestle
him, given.
Francis is not the caliber of wrestler, or even in the realm of John Jones.
John Jones, no doubt.
John Jones has been wrestling since he was 12 years old.
He took down Daniel Cormier, who's an Olympic-level wrestler.
There is not a guy in the world that can say that you could start wrestling at
29 years old.
I mean, you'd have to be the freakiest of freak athletes to be able to compete
with that guy to start wrestling when Cyril Ghosn started wrestling.
The gap is just too wide to cross.
So I think what I was thinking is, and when I bring up John Jones, is I
remember the first John Jones fight I watched was when he got DQ'd against Matt
Hamill.
Okay.
From the 12 to 6 elbows.
Yeah, yeah.
Right?
That was my first experience with him.
The next thing I feel like I remember, and I may have seen some of his fights
in between then,
but is when he beat up this guy that was trying to rob this lady the night of a
fight.
That was the day he fought for the title.
Right.
The day he fought for the title, he chased down a guy who robbed someone and
tackled him and held him until the cops came.
Right.
And then when he fought Shogun and became the youngest ever UFC champion.
Yep.
So here's where I'm getting at.
And this is going to be just kind of, I'm interested in your take on this,
because I watched it happen with John Jones, and I feel like I watched it
happen with Kamaru as well,
where it was like John and Kamaru, as they came up, right?
It's like John does this thing where he stops this robber and he wins the belt.
He beats Shogun, who is this kind of like, you know, him and Lyoto were these
kind of like
unfigureoutable guys to me as a fan at that time.
Right.
Like guys like, how do you beat Lyoto Machida?
You can't figure, cause you can't even touch the guy.
Right.
At that time.
And they were like inherently these like good guys that everybody was rooting
for.
And then both of them became these like epically long reign champions that then
became sort of like villains.
Kamaru was never a villain.
I feel like he is.
Really?
To me as a fan, again, who doesn't know anything, and maybe it's the, the, it
comes back to maybe the celebrity, like ego thing, like to the camera as a fan.
Again, I've never met the guy.
He's probably great.
But just as a casual watcher, I went from going, I'm rooting for this guy to
then it be like the way he talks about himself.
And I feel like John Jones was the same way to me, is they became this like
really like, and then John got in all this kind of like turmoil-y stuff like.
Well, I don't think you can compare the two.
And here's two reasons why.
One, have you ever seen Kamaru talk?
Like you ever seen Kamaru on my podcast?
He's one of the nicest, most down to earth, friendly, smiley, fun guys.
There's, what you're seeing is Kamaru the destroyer.
The dog.
The dog is ready to go to war.
That's the difference.
And that's what I was trying to ask.
He's like signaling to all the other people, I'm going to smash you.
Right.
That's what he's signaling.
And that's what I think I was asking is like, is that all just perceived by me?
Or is that, you know what I mean?
I mean, that's part of the fun of being a fan.
Sure.
You know, deciding what you like and what you don't like and personalities that
you root for and personalities you root against.
And sometimes you root against a guy and he wins you over because he's so
goddamn good.
You're like, I wanted that motherfucker to lose, but he's the fucking greatest.
Yeah.
John is very different than Kamaru.
John is what I would describe.
There's human beings that have different temperament and different minds and
different mentality and a ruthless, competitive drive that's almost terrifying
to the ordinary person.
That's John Jones.
John Jones is a bad guy who's trying to be a good guy.
But that guy, if we were living a thousand years ago, he would be on a horse
with the biggest battle axe, wading in the back, hacking heads off, and
everybody would be running.
And those people have always existed.
These dominators have always existed.
Yeah.
But John is like a genuinely sensitive, intelligent guy who's trying to do the
right thing.
But he's a fucking conqueror.
He's a fucking conqueror.
That's the thing that's inside of him that leads him to be the GOAT.
And without that, you don't get there.
You don't get a Mike Tyson without that.
You don't get a Muhammad Ali without that.
You don't get a Marvin Haglitt without that.
You don't get that.
There's a thing inside some people that is a driving force that allows them to
overcome the greatest around them.
It's a Michael Jordan.
It's a 100%.
There's a thing, man.
Tom Brady.
And those motherfuckers are hated.
They're always hated.
For sure.
Because you have to hate them because you can't beat them.
It's the 260-inch deer, dude.
Yeah.
Because me and my buddies were talking.
They're like, man, that's not the deer of a lifetime.
That's the deer of 10 lifetimes.
Yes.
Most people will never see that.
Right.
But it's even more than that because you can just accidentally stumble across
the deer of a lifetime.
You can't accidentally beat John Jones.
There's a thing about...
So he's GOAT over Khabib.
He's GOAT over everybody.
Now.
Khabib's too?
Yeah.
Khabib is in the conversation, but Mighty Mouse is in that conversation too.
Mighty Mouse, to me, if you want to look at a technical expression of the
greatness of martial arts, he's as good as anybody's ever done it.
When Mighty Mouse was the flyweight champion.
And the only problem is, besides Cejudo and a couple other guys like Benavides,
he was not dealing with guys that were of the caliber of the guys that John
Jones was facing.
John Jones was facing Gustafson, Glover Teixeira.
He was facing Daniel Cormier.
He was facing the elite of the elite and he never fucking lost even when he was
doing coke and he wasn't even training.
That's how goddamn good John Jones is.
Right.
And when John Jones talks about fights though, when I had him on the podcast,
one of the things that he talked about, some people don't really watch tape or
they only watch a little bit.
They let their coaches do the work.
John Jones studies everyone.
He studies their tendencies.
He gets in his mind how when you throw that left kick, you make this little
step with your right foot.
You might do this thing when you shoot for a takedown where you keep your head
on one side every time.
You might do this thing when someone throws a right hand, you always lean to
the left.
You might do it and John Jones picked up that tendency and that's how he
knocked out Daniel Cormier.
He knew Daniel Cormier has a tendency to duck towards his right side because he
goes for that single on the left leg and John caught him with the perfect head
kick.
But it wasn't by an accident.
He fucking, he set that up.
He set it up just like Leon Edwards set up that head kick on Camaro.
There's a beauty of that that's just, man, in the middle of chaos and anxiety
and fear and the fucking fog of war, you figure out a way to connect with this
thing that you saw in tape and in training and in preparation.
So with John, it's not an accident that he's the GOAT.
Even with his lack of training, even with his, even with the, it's just like he's
so fucking talented that he almost needs another John Jones to make him compete
the way he would, the way, make him train the way a lot of these other guys do.
Like he's so good, he can beat those guys without being challenged by someone
like him.
Right.
Because John Jones has never faced a John Jones.