Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1958 - Andrew Huberman
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1958 - Andrew Huberman' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2023-03-21. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1958 - Andrew Huberman

Joe Rogan podcast check it out the Joe Rogan experience trained by day Joe Rogan
podcast by
night all day every now and then this is good for you right what is it what is
your like when you
what is your schedule as far as like do you allow yourself bad food every now
and then
my vices in the food department are croissants thing is I you know that hits
the dopamine button
and it's all about more I mean I can I can sink five of those things chocolate
croissants are my jam oh
really I don't adulterate my croissants really no maybe extra butter for me it's
all the savory
stuff savory salty so it's croissants every once in a while or have you had a
chocolate croissant
I have pretty goddamn good you like them I'm all butter really butter's nice
butter's nice I think
the all butter for me justifies having you know three or four when I lived in
New York I used to
love buttered bagels or buttered rolls they do not have that out here for some
strange reason it's
like a common thing if you go to like a like a deli in New York they always had
buttered rolls it was
like a just a roll with a lot of butter on it and people would eat that with
coffee yeah they're here
they don't have that for some strange it were in LA they don't have it either I
like how in New York
when you get a soda even at a little uh you know little 7-eleven type place
they offer you a straw
yeah it's one of the last civilized things in life to be offered a straw you
know what I saw the there's
a chart see if you could find this of you know how we're supposed to be not
using plastic straws
anymore because turtles are dying you know that you know people give you a
class you know they
grew up in straws I remember the the six-pack container those plastic things
you see this oh
oh yeah like the turtle where it constricted his shell have you ever seen that
one yeah like it got
around a turtle when he was little and as he grew the the shell became like an
hourglass it was really
gross um but there was this chart of the countries in the world that pollute
the ocean the most and it's
fucking stunning um and if we stop using plastic straws we're not going to put
a fucking dent in it unless
they do like we're not even close to number one we're not even close to number
six
like the the leading countries that pollute the ocean I think number one was philippines
i was going to say southeast why would southeast asia have that issue
i would imagine that when people are very poor the last thing they're concerned
about is not polluting
i would think that i've seen those images of those giant like icebergs of
plastic junk
yeah and i always hope that's not real oh it's real yeah boy on slot is a
gentleman who's been on the
podcast before has developed this device for uh it's like it sifts the ocean it's
like it floats over
the top of the ocean and it has this collector that sucks up plastic and then
they take that plastic and
use it and recycle it and make like eyeglasses out of it and all sorts of other
different things
like okay so number one is china by a by a wide margin by a wide march wow
countries polluting the
oceans the most andrew annual metric tons of mismanaged plastic waste and total
amount ending up in global
waters this is fucking insane so china is 8.80 metric tons indonesia's number
two with 3.2
philippines is number three with 1.9 you go all the way down the united states
is 0.30
well china's got no excuse because their gdp's way up there they could actually
manage it but some of
these other countries as you mentioned are definitely lower gdp relative to the
united states and china
right for sure like yeah definitely like malaysia and nigeria but china's got
no excuse that's
incredible yeah is some of that them buying our stuff though don't we sell our
trash we buy it from
them bro okay i mean oh trash yeah buy their trash they take it and we're like
here you you deal with
it i've heard of that happening i don't know not to a gigantic extent like that
i don't know about you
know right for waste management right yeah like they might have a company that
handles that perhaps
i mean but also they produce so many plastic things i mean think about the
amount of things
that are plastic that are produced in china it's pretty extraordinary i
remember for a while there
was a discussion about kids toys with the the coloring you know and the tox
toxins and plastics yeah
you know it i guess i don't know if we're going to go there because uh we might
as well right okay
well you know it's interesting for starting 2019 i started posting things on
instagram that's how i
got my stuff out then i was going on podcasts now we have the podcast right but
i'd stayed off twitter
largely until this last year when i started putting a lot of stuff there so you
you put stuff there you
start reading stuff there oh no and then well what's been really interesting to
me is i followed this
whole lab leak thing right because early in the pandemic people in my field
started chattering about that
i was very i love exotic animals not to own them right but i'm really
interested in animal um conservation
and so the pangolin is an amazing animal they pinned it on the pangolin early
on right and there were
articles published in good journals several of which i'm on the editorial board
for so early in the
pandemic there were papers coming out really fast about you know the sequence
of the virus in pangolins
which were being sold in the wuhan market etc and i was pretty disturbed by
this mostly because of the
the pictures of the wuhan market the exotic animal trade is just it's it's
horrible right yeah okay
close confinement you know these are beautiful animals that there's no
justification for this stuff
but pangolin meat is sold at i forget what it is per pound but it's sold it's a
delicacy and it's
considered very lucrative and uh to get pangolin meat of all things there's
actually a female
pangolin meat um influencer on youtube and oh yeah no it's like it's it starts
to look like pangolin
meat asmr it's crazy and disgusting so they're they're kind of mixing you know
sexy women with exotic
meats from these rare animals it's just awful so i was going deep down this
rabbit hole of trying to
understand this exotic animal trade and then um and then there was chatter in
my field about the fact that
one of the members of the laboratory in wuhan that was working with these you
know very high uh
restriction viruses um had done her training in the united states which is true
um had had has a
master's degree but was running a laboratory which is unusual right typically
the head of a laboratory
is someone with a phd md or both very rare for a so-called pi a principal
investigator
like like me or you know another matt walker for instance principal
investigator to have less than a
phd the fact that she ran a lab or was important in running this lab as a
master's with only a
master's is unusual and then there was a lot of chatter in my field about the
the idea that it might have
something to do with the fact that her significant other was a member of the
chinese communist party
and so you know that laboratory had deep ties to government and vice versa and
that's true of all
laboratories in china all laboratories so the whole notion of the lab leak
hypothesis
was not foreign to scientists like me who thought yeah you know my laboratory
works with rabies viruses
adenoviruses synbis viruses none of these are are as biohazardous as something
like the coronavirus
but you work with these viruses and you have to use you know lab coats gloves
bleach sterilization
you're careful you know hoods of prop you know you but human error happens so i'm
not at all convinced
one way or the other that it was a deliberate leak but the idea that it would
leak from a laboratory
to a scientist like me who has what's called a wet lab where you you know with
solutions and beakers
and things of that sort things happen all the time not in my laboratory we're
very careful
and everyone's checked up on often but the idea that human error could cause
this is like
it was an of course to all scientists well they had been cited in 2018 for
violating safety protocols
yeah i mean all it takes is you know people might not be familiar with the pipetting
is but it's
basically taking a little uh straw that sucks up you know press a button it
sucks up some fluid you
move things you know between little little tiny vials can be done by robots too
but typically it's
done by humans and that's how they put in a center if you spin it take off a
little piece of that or
take the pellet out of the bottom that spun down this kind of thing all it
takes is one loose thumb
and it's on a lab coat all it takes is that lab coat going on a rack all it
takes is somebody leaving
work putting their lab coat on there and touching that it's out in the world
like it's not that
complicated right um so it doesn't have to be that somebody had a plan to let
this out it could be i
don't have any knowledge of that but the idea that it would come from a lab to
me is far more plausible
than the idea that it came from some pangolin sequence in the wuhan market so i
think we were going
down the wrong path on this for a long time and i thought this is kind of
bananas and now everyone's
so shocked and it's like i think to people who work in biomedical research of
course this sort of
thing could happen of course because human error is the cause of most of these
kinds of things well
it was very clear that there was a concerted effort to dismiss the idea that it
came from a lab and it
wasn't logical and it wasn't scientific and they ignored the the all the
evidence that seemed to
point that it originated from that lab including the people that worked in that
lab who got sick
and now there's some new stupid story in the new york times about a raccoon dog
they're saying it
might have come from a raccoon dog this the civet is that the the no no no so
it's some sort of a
raccoon dog civet is actually a cat it's a like a ferret type thing right a civet
is like in the cat
family i believe and it's uh that's where you get a kopi luwak coffee from yeah
from the poop of yeah
have you ever had it oh it's the luwak coffee yeah it's actually very good yeah
when i was a postdoc
there was there was this is it that's the raccoon dog yeah that one doesn't eat
coffee beans i don't
think so maybe it doesn't look like it's a member of the canid family it's also
it's a beautiful let's
go with it back to where you were um a group that also includes domestic dogs
and the only member that
hibernates oh wow they they hibernate interesting but here's the problem um sagar
and jetty was actually
explaining this to me on saturday night he was like there are there's direct
evidence of people being
infected that predates this establishment of this uh animal testing positive in
that wet market
so i guess people were eating that animal is that the idea but many months
before that people were sick
from this like this is what was this in i believe it was in december of 2019 is
that what they're saying
november or december of 2019 and it was march 2020 when when everything kind of
blasted right yeah but
it was september and or august of 2019 when the first people were infected so
this it predates it by a
considerable amount yeah i think the lab leak hypothesis is is far more
plausible well the firming cleavage
site this this thing that they've established that it seems to indicate that
this virus was manipulated
like this is the furan cleavage site excuse me yeah there too you know we hear
about gain of function
research and now everyone associates gain of function with gain of function of
this particular virus but
gain of function research happens all the time in essentially every laboratory
in the us and abroad that
does mouse genetics you knock out a gene and you ask what happens to this
animal in the absence of a gene
and then you knock it in and you see if it replaces that be