Name: Joe Rogan Experience #1966 - Big Jay Oakerson & Ari Shaffir
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1966 - Big Jay Oakerson & Ari Shaffir' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2023-04-05. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1966 - Big Jay  Oakerson & Ari Shaffir

the Joe Rogan experience
Yeah, the NXIVM cult is the one that I still haven't watched that documentary
I've been watching this doc. I've got a bit about the place that I used that I
bought before I bought the mothership
Yeah, cuz it's about a place that was owned by a cult. So I've been watching
the documentary on the cult
It's called Holy Hell. It's so fucking crazy. I've been watching it
I've watched it three or four times to try to like find the angles for the bit
Yeah, because the guy who ran it was a gay porn star who was also a hypnotist
It's such a powerful combination. All he wore was speedos and eyeliner and this
Dude ran this cult for 20 fucking years and they kicked him out and sent him to
Hawaii
And now he's running in Hawaii at the end of the documentary the guy goes to
visit the guy in Hawaii
Now he's old and fucked up looking. He's had a bunch of plastic surgery like
fake cheeks and his lips are done and everything
He looks like a monster and he's still got these people following around and
open the doors for him and he sits down and he talks like a guru
Complete con artist. Did they show you his porns? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. How was
it?
Oh, yeah, they just block out where the dick is going in the ass he's pounding
this guy from behind and then he's doing
Like a push-up he's doing like a plank and this guy is underneath him and he's
holding on for the guys
The guys holding on to his hips and he's just mouth fucking this guy
While his legs are completely suspended in the air. Oh, it's just okay
Yeah, it's basically doing a workout
So he's got like in a push-up position like this and his leg is both of his
legs are up there like that pointed and he's going to
Just humping this guy's mouth. I mean the guy and this is something that the
cult members had found out while he was
You know there that's him but went see when he got older he started looking
creepy
You gotta realize this guy started this cult in 1981. He was an extra in Rosemary's
Baby. Really?
Yeah, that was like his claim to fame. He's just a bad actor. He's got some
young bucks with him
Oh, he had all young bucks and young beautiful women too like that's how he
attracted the heterosexual men
He had a bunch of young beautiful women
But he told them never to have relationships together and then he fucked all
the guys the move with the NXIVM guy did
It's you can get a really good cult going but you're
Everyone's not gonna get the well even Charles Manson. They always made it out
to these these young pretty hippie girls when you see the pictures
They're all pretty rough
Yeah, and then the the next game called it's the same thing
It's like they tell you all the people that were involved and like except for
like one girl
Like most of them were pretty like homely, so you're like yeah, I guess if you're
yeah
If you're game if your cult leader status is to bang a bunch of like they're
okay
Well, this is like headshots after they've left the cult and realized it was
over that girl
Yeah, she's the prettiest I recognize her but she's like secretary
Yes, she was like yes, exactly. She I think she got out of fucking him
Yeah, because she would recruit the girls and brand that girl's pretty that
girl's pretty that's what's your McCall its daughter who?
She got involved to us. She's not that. Oh, she's an actress
She was an actress like there's all like Falcon Crest type shows
Oh my god
Being trapped on one of those shows where you got to get a paycheck every week
and the paycheck is wonderful
Oh, I'm dying to say the light making like a hundred grand a week so it's like
a book after Oxenberg's dog
So you're not gonna leave you're not gonna leave, but you're like this sucks. I
didn't get into acting to do this
Yeah, but is it a good career if you're like take a Lorenzo Lamas mm-hmm
The guy is like, you know small parts in Greece and stuff then he's on Falcon Crest
is a heartthrob for a while
Which is I think network that's a big network then he's renegade for years
probably his most successful thing
Yeah, that was like a syndicated. Yeah, that was a syndicated show
Beautiful man. Oh, he was gorgeous in his day. Beautiful man. Yeah. Yeah, like
what does he look like now?
That's him up there
Not bad
63 but major like a younger woman who goes by nerdy blonde on not okay?
Oh, that's what that's new. He already had like a like a big girl like a lady
leave and there's with for a while
He's was where a playboy girl or so. Oh, yeah
Yeah, I remember seeing that like she had a ton of plastic surgery and shit,
right?
Yeah, Lorenzo Lamas
Do you think you ever like if he looked back at himself at 16 7 to 18 whatever
when he's looking forward
He's like, that's my career. Do you think he'd be happy with that or go? Nah, I
want something legit
It would really depend on how smart he is. I've never talked your was what he
did with his money
I guess right but also like how smart is he like are you stimulated there? Are
you just happy to get attention?
I bet he's just happy to get attention. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah, I think he was more
pretty than brilliant
Yeah, maybe but you know saying with the NXIVM guy like the intelligence of
them
It's weird like coffee because the different states in life like that guy made
himself like very wealthy
In that cult the NXIVM guy. Oh, he made himself wealthy by sure. Yeah, cuz it's
a Ponzi scheme on top of the sex thing
It was most it first of all was a money thing first and foremost. It was sex is
bonus
It was one of those schemes to do like
You know, they'd be like put a like get five more people to join and pyramid
scheme pyramid scheme for sure
And then and then once they were in and believed their life was getting better
from that he'd be like hey girls
There's a little side project I got going on called like, you know fuck me when
I tell you to
and
But what are they like getting branded or something? Yeah, that's what I'm
saying. It's it gets greedy
Those things always go down because you guys too much power and he keeps going
over it
Well, it's not enough to just be like hey, I'm fucking three chicks. There's
need this is great Negan in the Walking Dead
You can fuck three chicks and instill you want to bank the guy who worships you
his why I want to see if you can get his wife, too
And it's crazy. Yeah, and they always wind up doing it, too. They get it
Because I have to comply they don't know what to do like David Koresh like he
had a deal where he could fuck everyone's wife
The people that get out of it like sitting there and like just seeing a guy
just seeing it
I don't know how they stay together like a guy and his wife sitting on a couch
while the guy's hysterically crying like I can't believe I
Sat in that room and waited for him to fuck you while I you know, I can believe
it
That they stay together. Yeah, yeah, I can be just tough guys like there's guys
like that out there
They're like the girl can do anything. She could shit in his face
No, but
Don't do that. I don't do that to you. There's certain they have to complain
about it the whole time
There's always been humans like that. There's like a spectrum of humans
There's always been humans that you could just kind of like push around walk
over thing - yeah
Well, the one the other one I just watched I said because this guy had no
status in life. It was an older guy
Who moved into his like his I think was his daughter his daughter would always
talk about how great her dad was and he was super involved in like
seal team shit and
With Gorbachev and all these like past political dealings, but he's in jail now
because the government railroaded him
This is what she would tell all her dorm mates where you know housemates in
college, but he rules he's the best
He comes out of jail and she's like can he comes live here with us for a while
and then over the course of the next few years
Like he just turns his daughter's house of friends into a sex cult. Yeah, it's
why
Yeah, I heard about that one too
Wow
Yeah, well, there's a lot of con men out there also what we're talking about
before the podcast
Yeah, there's a lot of con men out there and con women
There's a lot of con artists do they con themselves or they think some part of
them is doing a good thing
No, the next team guys like I am teaching them like life skills and building
them up. Yeah, I've been a lot of themselves
I say yes a little bit of that in there
Like with this guy what's fascinating about this holy hell thing in the
beginning the cult was amazing
Like it just as it got older the guy started fucking everybody there started
fucking all the men
That's one of the things that he did as he got older like heterosexual men
start fucking them and hypnotizing them
And then on top of that he started telling people to get plastic surgery so he
could see what it looked like
Like he wanted to get like his cheeks done. So he had his followers get the
cheeks done. What happened with him is he was beautiful when he was young
Yeah, that's the guy who made the documentary that's Will Allen
He's the guy who made it also the guy also was a lot all the people were good-looking
Can't really put his ass on the lawn. The picture of him like up there with his
arms up in the air and everyone's got their hands up
That's him older. Yeah, but still like fucking ripped and jacked
But when he was young in the beginning of the documentary
He was a beautiful man, you know like perfect features and this amazing body
and he was a ballet dancer and he put on his fake accent with accent
Like he was um like he was a guru that I am here to tell you you are just life
life is beautiful
You know that kind of shit, you know, I'm sure the guy he's a fucking actor,
right?
Do you think right away? He knows I can never get you get out
You're not gonna be part of my cult and he just gets the weakest
Yeah, if you if you stumbled in there first of all. Yeah. Oh, they take me he'd
be like you're not our type
No, you gotta be good-looking. I'll prove it. You're not that good looking. I
love you. That's a good point
You're not the best looking guy. That's a good point. That's a good point on
gay island
I would have a trouble there. There would be a problem. Yeah, and then guys
like you or I or any of us
We'd be like what are you doing? Wait a minute. Yeah, come on. What's going on?
How do you guys make money? Who's making money?
Where's the money? Yeah, you have a question early on their talent is finding
people who are lost and don't ask questions
Exactly. Well, like I'm sure it's the idea of like when he tell me hear those
things like where's the point where you have to go?
Hey, wait, wait, wait. Yeah, wait, I don't that doesn't make sense. They all
come from yoga classes
Mm-hmm. I know his guys his people he would teach yoga classes in LA and that's
how I'd find out
You know you if you go to yoga. Yeah, I mean there's a lot of people in yoga
There's a spectrum, but there's a certain percentage of guaranteed lost people
in yoga
classes
There's like crossfit had that too when I was doing crossfit like how much they
and another thing that's why it wasn't like buying into the
They said before I took crossfit. They were like, you know, some people that's
cult issues weird
And I go, I don't know what that means
I walk in and I do the thing that's on the board that says to do at the time I
can do it and then I go home
But I then did realize after being there for like a year. I'm like these guys
are barbecues every weekend
they really do they start and then and then people the owner of the of the
crossfit gym like there's two guys who owned it both married guys
I think both of them
started fucking no girls in the class and like had at least one of them did for
sure and the family broke up and he was very publicly with this
Like much younger girl from class is why there's gonna be a segment of the
class that wants the approval of the teacher
Oh like real bad this guy they would call him the teacher
He had all these different well here's the