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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #1976 - James Fox' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2023-04-26. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #1976 - James Fox

Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
Okay.
Hello, James.
Hello.
Good to see you, my man.
Thank you so much for having me on.
Oh, my pleasure.
The moment I saw that documentary, I was like, wow.
Let me just be honest, off the bat.
I loved your first documentary, but when someone says there's a documentary
about a crashed
UFO and it happened in Brazil, I'm always like, man, people tell stories, you
know?
I'm like, maybe it was one of those.
Like, I didn't think too much of it.
When I hear stories, even Roswell, I always go, man, I don't know.
I don't know.
It's so hard to know.
1947, you know, I think some shenanigans were going on, but what was it really?
And how much of this is just people tell stories and those stories grow and
change over the
years and, you know, almost like the story becomes their real memory after a
while because
they've been doing it for, you know, so many, so many years.
But then this one, this one, just right away, the way you captured all the
information and
the evidence and the eyewitness accounts, the photographs that people got, the
depictions
of the actual being, the fact that there was live beings, this is a real, and
everyone that
didn't even know each other having these, like, really similar stories about
what they
saw.
And when people got a hold of the wreckage, like, when you first started making
this documentary,
did you have any apprehension?
Like, oh, this one, how do I sell a documentary on a crashed UFO?
Like, what's the best way to put this together?
Because that's part of the art of what you do, right?
You were skeptical?
Let me tell you how skeptical I was.
Okay?
So I was making my second documentary on UFOs in the late 90s.
I just finished a documentary called UFOs, 50 Years of Denial.
I started on my second film.
It was 1999, and I partnered up with a couple of guys.
Boris Zuboff has been a partner.
I'm still working with him today.
And this guy, Tim Coleman, who's a British reporter.
And we, like, mapping out the film concept, like, hey, we should cover this
case, and we
should do that.
And he's like, hey, mate, we got to do this amazing UFO crash in Brazil with
these aliens.
We're walking around the town.
And I looked at the guy, and I thought, I think I picked the wrong partner.
This guy's fucking batshit crazy.
And literally, I dismissed it on the spot, and I refused to even read one word
about it.
I said, there's no way in hell that that happened, and the whole world doesn't
know about it.
Right.
So I have to remind your audience, I was making my second documentary.
On UFOs.
On UFOs.
And I dismissed it.
Like this, like, how fast can you say howdy doody?
It just always seems like if someone's telling you about something like that,
like, you would
have heard about it.
Absolutely.
I can't tell you, Joe, how quickly I dismissed it.
And I didn't look into it until 2011.
Okay?
So here's what happened.
I'm going to, I get invited by this guy, A.J.
Javard, to a place called Peru Ibi in Brazil.
And I'm speaking at a conference about a film I did called I Know What I Saw.
And this guy calls me, Jeff Sagansky, who's very high up on the food chain in
the entertainment
industry.
He's been kind of like my mentor and opening doors for me over the years.
And I've asked him over a period of time, like, why are you so kind to me?
He's a very wealthy guy in New York.
And he goes, you know, Jackie Gleason told me one time that these things were
real.
Don't listen to anybody else.
I know for a fact.
And so when I saw you as an independent, struggling young filmmaker, I always
wanted to lend a
helping hand.
And by the way, you're going to Brazil.
You've got to look into that Varginha case.
And I thought, oh, God, not this again.
Right?
Swear to God.
So I was like, well, I had a lot of respect for Jeff Sagansky.
I mean, you can look him up.
The guy's very famous.
I mean, very, he's big time.
And I said, oh, yeah, sure, Jeff, I'll look into that for you while I'm in
Brazil.
And just to be nice, right?
But in the back of my mind, I was like, I'm not wasting one second on that
stupid case.
Seriously, I'm telling you honest to God truth.
And it was 2011.
So I go to Brazil with no intention of looking into it.
Zero.
Okay?
I wasn't even going to ask one question.
And it just so happens that nuclear physicist and UFO researcher Stanton Friedman,
rest in peace,
and he's there at the conference.
And somehow the case gets brought up.
It wasn't about that case, but it gets brought up.
And he's like, oh, yeah, I was in Brazil when that went down.
And he's one of the smarter guys.
Stanton Friedman?
Yeah.
He is not an idiot.
I mean, he's one of the reasons why him and Don Schmidt and Kevin Randall,
one of the reasons why we're even talking about Roswell.
And he's like, oh, yeah, I was here when that happened.
I met some of the witnesses.
So then that kind of piqued my interest.
I was like, oh, okay.
Well, God, Stanton, I can't completely dismiss coming from Stanton.
Then I met a couple of people at the conference.
So I thought, okay, well, I piqued my interest.
I've got to be honest with you.
And that's how it all started.
And that was like in 2011.
And I was going to include a segment of it in the phenomenon.
The interview with Stanton, did you get that?
I got that in 2013 in Brazil.
Because he died when?
He died like a couple of years ago.
He died in the airport.
You know what he told me?
He's like, James, I'm retiring.
I can't do this anymore.
I live in Canada in this remote spot.
There are no direct flights.
And I'm always running in the airports trying to get my connecting flight.
And I just, I can't do it anymore.
And then he retired for like a year or so.
And then he just, he had to get back at it.
And he died in the airport running for a connecting flight.
Oh, he had a heart attack?
He had a heart attack.
Oh, no.
That's exactly what he predicted.
God damn it.
I know, right?
And I just like.
He was a fascinating guy because he was an outspoken critic of Lazar.
And I always wanted to get the two of them together.
I was like, I wanted to see because one of the things that the critics of Lazar
always bring up is his education at MIT.
I can explain that to you off air in the way that he explained it to me.
And it might make sense.
But I think that it's hard to dismiss that he worked at that lab.
Los Alamos Labs had him on their list of people that worked there.
Like he was on the, whatever that thing is that they have with all the list of
employees.
He was in it.
Like he worked there.
He knew all the people that worked there.
He knew how it was set up.
When they took him there, he knew the security guys.
He knew the machines that they used to, they had some sort of a scanner that
measured the length of your digits exactly.
So you put your hand on this thing and he talked about it.
And everybody was like, what?
That doesn't even exist.
And then years later, people got photographs of this thing.
George Knapp said he went through that Los Alamos laboratory like just right
through.
Let me tell you, this is something that just came in yesterday that I can for
the first time ever talk about in full detail.
I've talked about on, I did a couple of podcasts where I gave, I don't know, in
1993, 94, I was working on my first film.
I talked about it earlier.
It's called UFOs.
It's so 90s, but whatever.
UFOs, 50 years of denial.
It's like 80 years of denial now.
And I was interviewing this guy out at Area 50.
He lived on the outskirts of the base in a place near the Little Ailey Inn in
Rachel, Nevada.
And Chuck, this guy's name is Chuck Clark, and he had found all these, and the
relevance of what I'm telling you will come to light in a second here.
He'd found all these vantage points on the mountaintops that he could spy on
the base down below with high-powered telescopes with cameras.
And he was taking photographs of exotic airplanes coming out of the hangers and
stuff like that.
He wrote a book called, like, UFO, Area 51 Handbook and Guide or something.
He was an amateur astronomer.
He was, and he had a couple of really cool sightings out at Area 51 that were
really, like, he saw these, it's in my movie, he saw these lights doing things
that they shouldn't be doing, right?
Like traversing and then stopping and then taking off really fast.
So anyway, so I'm covering his story, because I was intrigued.
I mean, in the early 90s, the Bob Lazar thing was everywhere.
I was making a doc on UFOs, so I was kind of looking into it.
Yeah.
I wouldn't just, like, categorically believe it, but I'll look into it.
So I was looking into it.
And I'm going back and forth out there for many times.
And then one day, I get a phone call from Chuck Clark.
And I'm back at home in Northern California, and this is kind of a long way
away.
And he goes, James, I got something you need to see.
I said, okay, well, what is it?
I can't tell you.
But your jaw's going to hit the floor when you see it.
I was like, that good?
He goes, oh, yeah, that good.
I said, I'm canceling all my plans, jumped in my car, and I drove straight
through to Rachel, Nevada.
I get to his house.
This must have been, I'm going to guesstimate 95, 94, 95.
Get to his house, and he's got a double wide right near the little alien.
And he pops in this VHS tape.
And it was like two guys on the quintessential road trip just to Area 51.
You know, the surrounding areas, Rachel and the extraterrestrial Lonely Highway,
and they're
goofing off the alien, taking videos of each other.
Just the typical road trip out to Area 51, right?
Blair Witch Project.
Totally.
And then they're goofing off next to the photographs of the alien in the crash
disc,
and then they're inside the little alien, and I'm like, okay, where's this
going?
And all of a sudden, and I saw this with my own eyes.
All of a sudden, the car's parked, and it's parked out by the black mailbox in
the desert, and it's dusk.
The camera is on the armrest between the two seats, and it's slightly cocked,
like it's not level.
And it's filming the dashboard and the screen, the windscreen, windshield.
And there's two guys in there sounding like, you can't see them, sounding like
they're trying
to crawl under the seats.
I mean, they're freaking out.
And then one of them goes, it's over the top of us.
It's over the top of us.
I'm like, damn, what is this video?
Like, what am I, you know?
Then all of a sudden, the car lights up on the inside, but the source of light
is above
it.
Like, if you can imagine, I've never seen anything like this.
If you could put a pendulum with a light source above a vehicle, like above the
car, like
this, but very slow and fluid motion, like rocking back and forth, the shadows
and the lights
on the inside of the car are doing this really eerily.
You'd never seen anything like it.
I'm looking like, my God, what is going on?
And they're very scared.
And one kid, who's the younger of the two, is like, I'm getting out.
I'm getting out of the car.
I'm staying in the car.
It's over the top, but stay in the fucking car.
He goes, no, I'm getting out.
And he gets out and he videotapes a disc that was so low, you could have hit it
with a rock.
And I'm looking at this thing and I'm like, that's what all the witnesses have
tried to
describe.
And that's like, if you could imagine the skin on the craft glowing like
phosphorus on
a beach, that's what it looked like.
Like the skin was alive and it had like, um, like a yellowy orange color to it.
But you could clearly see it was a disc.
I mean, it was not an orb.
It was a disc.
But the metal lit up like it was alive.
I'd never seen anything like it.
And it, and it just wobbled like it was unstable, like doing this.
And the camera guy goes, oh my God.
And then something about the batteries and then boom, it shuts off.
I looked over at Chuck Clark.
I said, this is the video everyone's been waiting for.
Unbelievable.
How do you know this is real?
Because eve