Name: Joe & Theo on Depression, Ayahuasca, and Anxiety Genetics
Uploaded: 2023-06-06T17:59:48.000Z
Description: Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe & Theo on Depression, Ayahuasca, and Anxiety Genetics' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2023-06-06. Transcript available.

Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe & Theo on Depression, Ayahuasca, and Anxiety Genetics' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2023-06-06. Transcript available.

- The Joe Rogan Experience.
- In fact, they say that exercise
is one and a half times more effective
than SSRIs for curing depression.
- Oh, in a heartbeat, man.
I'll take, if I take my,
'cause I take SSRIs and I do exercise.
If I take my SSRI, I don't feel really anything.
I just feel like, oh, I took my SSRI.
But if I go for a run, like even today,
I had to go run a couple miles.
I was like, I know I'm gonna be on here.
I wanna have, I wanna like, just be in like my,
I wanna have my good energy going.
I'm gonna go for a run, you know?
And so, yeah, I think it,
I know that it makes me feel better
if I do something athletic, you know?
- What SSRI are you taking?
- I think I'm on Lexapro right now.
I take the generic one, whatever the cheaper one is.
You know, I think it's, I don't know what it is,
but it is, they say it's fine.
You know?
So I don't know if I believe 'em,
but I mean, I'm fucking taking it.
- Now I would like to, I would like to maybe take 30 days off
and try ayahuasca again.
- Mmm.
- I feel like I'm getting back around where,
I would like to do it again, you know?
- Yeah?
- Yeah.
- Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.
- I would, man.
'Cause I wanna fucking feel,
I wanna be right up there on nature's fucking.
- Mmm, wanna be in there.
- Eavesdropping on nature's nuts, boy.
- Mmm, yeah.
- God, I'll be right up there.
- Yeah.
- What did you say, boy?
- In eavesdropping on nature.
Right up next to it.
- Oh, dude.
- Feeling it.
- Oh, ayahuasca, dude, you'll fucking,
Mother Nature, you'll be, she'll break out that wiener
and you'll be like, damn,
I didn't know Mother Nature had a wiener, you know?
- Mother Nature's got everything.
- It's powerful, dude.
That ayahuasca stuff is real powerful,
so I would like to do that again.
- Dude, what is, what is the reason
why you take the SSRIs?
- I think 'cause when I'm off of them,
something feels wrong.
I feel it's a battle.
- A battle.
- It's a battle to, even if I do running
and I do fitness, right,
it's a battle to keep myself even.
So, instead of dealing with that at a more intense level,
I choose to take them because it just makes it
a little bit easier.
I don't think it's taking the easy way out, though,
because if I don't take 'em
and I still do all those things,
it's hard for me to get to a good baseline.
- What do you mean by wrong?
Like, when you say you feel wrong,
what does it feel like?
- I feel like, at any moment,
kinda my feelings can just drop off
into like a really surprised low.
- Hmm, out of nowhere, for no reason.
- Yes.
Sometimes with a little bit of motivation to it, right?
Or some trigger.
But the level that it drops off to,
it's too much of a drop for me to not get some help.
If it were a little bit and it felt manageable,
that's okay.
- Hmm.
- But when it's pretty steep, it's like,
oh man, this feels sometimes scary.
- Yeah, I know what you're saying.
Um, but it's gotten, doing that ayahuasca stuff made it a lot better than it
had ever been.
- Neil Brennan said it basically cured him.
- Yeah, he's the one who took me to it.
- Yeah, he said it made him much happier.
It cured him of like a lot of his, what he felt like were personality disorders
that he had.
Like Neil's a, Neil's a great guy, but very, very smart, very smart.
And sometimes, you know, I wonder about real smart guys, they're just always
thinking about things and maybe too much about certain things.
And, you know, you just get overwhelmed by thoughts and anxiety and emotions
and anxiety is a lot of, what anxiety a lot of is fretting about possibilities
for a lot of people.
You know, it's the inability to live in the moment and you fret about anxiety
and a lot of it has to do with childhood trauma.
A lot of it has to do with genetics, a lot of, anxiety is a weird thing.
Like they think that anxiety, whether it's a learned behavior or not, um, you
can actually get it from your parents.
I don't know why.
See, what's the...
- I could see that.
- Can you get anxiety, is anxiety genetic?
Google that.
- My mom made us anxious.
- Yeah?
- Yeah, dude, sometimes my mom, we'd go get ice cream, dude, and she would like,
she's like if, she'd get angry if we, she'd get so angry if we dripped any of
it.
- Here it goes.
There's clear research showing that anxiety is influenced by genetics.
In fact, experts notice a family connection for anxiety even before they
understood how DNA or genes work.
If you have a close relative with anxiety, your chance of developing is about
two to six times higher than if you don't.
- Well, I don't know if that's genetic or if it's just like if some...
- Learned behavior.
- Yeah, if your mom is always or your dad is always like bothered, they're
fucking anxious and they're fucking...
- Right.
- If they come over and they're always fucking tickling you, then you're gonna
fucking feel tickled all the time.
- Or if you're always getting fucked with.
- Yeah, yeah, something, you know, bugging you or something, even just tickling
you with their words.
- Yeah, genetics of generalized anxiety disorder and related traits.
- Well, for sure, mental illness is genetic.
There's a lot of people that are mentally ill and their children are mentally
ill or their family's mentally ill.
Or, you know, it's like it's...
Man, I used to have a much more ignorant view on mental health.
Because I have my own mental health issues, which I'm sure we all do.
But mine was like, just don't be a pussy.
Get your work done, you feel great.
And I don't have to take anything.
And even though I don't have to take anything, I'm still doing something to
mitigate it.
I'm doing something every day to work on it.
And when I don't, I do feel it.
- Right.
- Like a lot of people do.
So I always wonder, maybe those people just aren't doing the work.
Maybe if they just got up in the morning, went running before work or did
something before...
Maybe they could get through this and not need a fucking pill.
- Yeah.
- I don't think that anymore.
- Interesting.
Yeah, I think it's, I think, yeah, there's times where I thought that I'm just
not tough enough.
I'm just not doing enough.
I'm not enough to battle this, right?
- Right, right.
- And then I get to a point where so many times I tried to stop taking it.
And it's like, it's too much of a discrepancy that makes things unmanageable to
a point where
it feels like it's unfair to be that unmanageable to myself.
So I get back on it, you know, and I don't think it really bothers me or
anything like that.
But yeah, it's kind of the same with alcoholism.
Like I thought alcoholism used to just be like somebody couldn't stop drinking
or whatever.
- Right.
- But there's so much more.
I mean, alcoholism is the only disease that will tell you you don't have the
disease, right?
- Mm-hmm.
- That's crap.
Like imagine if you put on like a shirt, right?
But every couple of days the shirt was like, guess what?
You don't have a shirt on.
- I don't think that's a good analogy.
- I don't know if it is, but it seems like it.
But that's what alcoholism is.
- Because alcoholism would tell you you don't have a problem.
- Right.
- You don't have a problem.
Have another drink.
- Yeah.
- Relax.
- Have another Coke.
Have some more Coke.
- Bump.
- Yeah, have another family.
- Yeah.