Name: JRE MMA Show #141 with Mike Perry
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'JRE MMA Show #141 with Mike Perry' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2023-06-21. Transcript available.

JRE MMA Show #141 with Mike Perry

Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
Hi there.
Yes, sir.
What's happening?
Good to see you, brother.
Great to be here.
You want some coffee?
Drink coffee?
Sure, yeah.
Sure, I'll take some.
All right.
Dude, you have had a fascinating renaissance.
Cheers, sir.
Cheers, brother.
It's hot as fuck.
This bare-knuckle boxing thing has been fascinating to watch, man,
because it's like someone designed the perfect sport for you.
You know what I mean?
Yes, I do.
You are particularly well-suited for that.
And I find it so fascinating because there's a certain –
and I really wanted to ask you about this,
because there's a certain something that applies to bare-knuckle fighting
that just – it's like there's a pain and there's a danger and there's a wildness
of it
that even some very great fighters, they get to a certain – they're in there
and they're like,
I don't like this.
They're too used to gloves.
They're too used to whatever they're used to.
They don't want that experience once they find it, once they're in there.
But you seem to thrive on it.
You know, it's just a real fight to me.
Even though – I mean, I still go to the gym and I do MMA with the guys.
I love boxing so much, though.
It's my forte.
It's like what I'm good at because I'm cool to take a punch, get hit.
That's fine.
I'll take a hit to land a better one on you.
And in bare-knuckle, I mean, there's a lot of opportunity to fight guys who –
I mean, I did fight Julian Lane who had experience in it.
He had nine fights in it when we fought.
And then I fought two guys who hadn't done it yet.
So, you know.
But it's just like – let's talk about those two guys.
First of all, Michael Venom Page.
That guy is super talented.
I mean, he's extraordinary.
When you watch him fight in MMA – and he's a guy that I kind of predicted one
day.
I was like, the one skill that you don't see a lot of in MMA is this crazy blitz
point fighting style
because those guys can cover crazy distances.
Those are those really good point fighters.
And he was a really good point fighter.
And he was the first guy that kind of showed how that style could apply in MMA.
He's so elusive and so hard to hit.
And, you know, you just put it on him.
It's a – well, it was different, you know.
It was –
It's different.
It was boxing.
Yeah.
I mean, he beat a couple guys boxing.
Yeah.
But it's – I mean, because he's good MMA.
After I beat him, I thought, you know, maybe they'll try to make that fight
happen in MMA now.
But I do feel like I would overpower him grappling-wise.
But his legs are very dangerous.
I mean, that last guy he fought, he kicked him in the leg and it was over.
Yeah, he's very dangerous.
The knockout of Cyborg was fucking crazy.
Yeah.
That was crazy.
The poking ball.
Yeah, it was crazy.
I mean, he caved his forehead in.
With his legs.
That's what I'm saying.
His legs are dangerous.
Incredible.
It's interesting to me to want – you know, I'm hungry for fights.
I want to fight all these motherfuckers.
Well, I think with a guy like that – it's funny.
I was watching Stylebender was on Andrew Schultz's podcast and they were
talking about him boxing
some days.
Like, boxing is too limited.
It's too limited to fight.
You think about a guy like him who applies this full, wild range of things,
especially with
Michael Venom Page, because he's so good at closing distance and kicking you
and kneeing
you.
And that – the knee, the timing of that knee, I mean, magnificent, right?
Yeah.
And when you take all that away and you only have these, it's a big difference.
Yeah.
It's a gigantic difference.
Yeah.
It's so interesting to me.
But I have the same difference and I like it.
I like it.
Fits me.
I mean, I did boxing.
I had one pro boxing match.
I'm still 0-1 as a professional boxer.
But then I did that triller thing in the triangle and I fought Michael Seals,
who was 27-3, in
a mixed boxing match with Turtleback MMA gloves.
And, you know, I won.
I mean, I just put the pressure on him the whole time.
What are Turtleback MMA gloves?
Turtleback are like the training MMA gloves.
Oh, oh, okay.
But it was like while Metallica was playing.
Oh, yeah.
Here it is.
Oh, so they're like kind of big MMA gloves.
He was 27-3 as a professional boxer.
He drops me like once.
They counted it once he dropped me.
Another time I got hit in the back of the head and the ref saw it and I went
down a little
bit, but I got right back up.
So what is the biggest difference about bare knuckle for you?
I've learned, though.
So like when I fought Julian Lane, his little fucking head hurt my hands.
Because a lot of the time with boxing gloves on, your hands are like open and
you try to
close it at the right time.
But, you know, if you do that bare knuckle, because you know how if you're
squeezing your
fist, it's a little harder to move.
You're kind of tense.
But in bare knuckle, you have to learn how to move while you're tense and keep
your hands
closed because with gloves, you can block a shot like this.
But in bare knuckle, you got to be closed up tight and squeezing your fist so
hard so
that when you hit them in the head, you don't destroy your hand.
Yeah, there's like there's three levels of vulnerability.
And the level number one is like you would see a lot of the like the glory guys.
They keep their hands in a shell like Alistair Overy or, you know, like Badr
Hari.
Those guys would shell up.
They shell up.
But they have those big ass gloves.
And you see that when they come to MMA, some of those shots sneak through.
Yes.
But then bare knuckle, it's another level of sneaking through.
It's a totally different.
It's really interesting to watch a really good fighter like Luke Rockhold, you
know, and you.
And, you know, Luke Rockhold is very skillful.
He's a very skillful guy.
And when you were putting it on him, I was like, this is a totally different
thing.
And you are like uniquely suited for this totally different thing.
Thank you.
It's different than regular boxing, man.
And remember when Pauly Malignaggi fought Artem Lobov?
Mm-hmm.
Well, Pauly, I mean, he's a scrawny dude.
Yeah.
And Lobov was just a little dog.
He's a dog.
Yeah.
That dude's an animal.
It was a good fight, to be honest.
But the jabbing and moving that Pauly did didn't work for him.
And Luke, I don't know.
You know, that's kind of what we were talking about when you brought up Luke.
We were talking about, I was talking about the tight fist and like how bare knuckle
is different.
And it's like I figured out how to utilize the bare knuckle.
I mean, I knocked his teeth out.
I hit him by the time I caught him.
And then he was like, I'm not trying to get hit like that again.
It was a matter of time.
The gap was closing.
It takes a second.
He hit me, too.
And I told him, I bet it.
I haven't talked to him about it or asked him because I don't, I mean, you know,
he lost or whatever.
So I don't talk to losers.
But I try to do what winners do, man.
I try to think about winners.
But when I hit him with that shot and he didn't want to get hit again, he had
hit me.
I got a little nod on my face right there.
But I took it and I bet it hurt him.
I bet it hurt his hand.
I told him before the fight, you're going to punch me in the head.
It's going to be the hardest thing you ever hit.
And then I'm going to headbutt you in your hands and I'm going to punch you in
your face.
And you're going to quit.
And that's what he did.
Wow.
Yeah, it's good stuff, man.
It's a different thing, man.
It's a different thing.
I think I can do it in any gloves, though.
Any sport.
I could fight in the UFC.
I have a mindset and I fight with these guys.
I do MMA.
I see your belt on the wall in there when I went and did the cold plunge.
It's like a red belt or a black belt with red stripes.
That's John Jock's belt.
That's not your belt?
No, no.
It's John Jock Machado.
When he got his coral belt, he gave some of them out to some of his students.
Man, dudes like that, you know.
Coral belt stuff.
I'm going to chase back my black belt.
I'm a purple belt, four-stripe for years now.
Could have been, had my brown belt.
I got great jiu-jitsu.
I train with some of the best jiu-jitsu practitioners.
I just choose to sprawl and brawl.
I like to punch people.
I think it's the best off button.
I enjoy it and it's exciting.
It's an entertainment business, right?
So, you know, I fucking lost my...
There's something to be said for that, for sure.
I mean, look, people love to watch you fight.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
I was always a giant fan.
Oh, that's what my point was.
Yeah, you had wild fights, man.
I would fight anyone, anywhere.
I would love to.
Please, give me opportunities.
I want to show and be...
I want to be a fucking coral belt in my own right, in my own way.
And people know when Mike Perry walks down the street,
it's like that's the baddest motherfucker that ever lived, dude.
Mike Perry, they're going to talk about me just like they did Mike Tyson.
I feel like Mike Tyson.
I feel different.
I'm better.
What changed in you?
How did you come into your own?
Because you were always a really good fighter,
but it seems like over the last few years,
you're on a completely different level.
I have a family.
I love them so much.
And, you know, I'm a human.
I fuck up.
I make mistakes and shit.
But, you know, I know I don't give up.
I keep going.
And I push.
And I took, you know, David Goggins type shit.
You know, it's like I stopped making fucking excuses and fucking was like, you
know, because I'm hurt all the time.
I'm always fucking hurt.
I don't care.
I'm like, all right, fuck it.
I got to wake up every day and feel this shit.
You can't fucking hurt me because I'm in enough pain.
And I take anything you got and give it back.
That's fighting.
And I got and I do it for, you know, I do it for fighting.
I love fighting.
Like, that's my shit.
That's even though it hurts.
It fucked my face up.
I've hate.
It's a love hate relationship.
My family can hurt my feelings, too.
So it's all emotional feelings.
And if you tell yourself just who cares, like just no one cares about your
problems or anything.
So just handle your business.
When did you get into fighting?
When did you get into martial arts?
I feel like, to be honest, I feel like it was September 15, 1991, the day I was
born.
But 11 years old, I was on YouTube doing videos, watching Mike Tyson, Roy Jones
Jr., going to school, bringing gloves, or fighting kids on the block, in the
grass, you know, with gloves on, busting kids up, older kids, kids my age, it
doesn't matter.
It's just always been a fun game.
I played all sports, basketball, rode my bike 20 miles all over the streets.
Times have changed.
Kids ain't out there like that no more.
I don't know.
I'm surprised I didn't get kidnapped.
I probably would have stabbed the guy trying to do it, though.
How many fights did you get in as a kid?
Oh, man.
I remember my dad always saying, uh-uh, I'm 100-0 in these streets.
I fought 200 times or something, man, you know?
I'm like, no, you didn't.
I do.
I fight.
Other than the streets, I mean, just my whole life, you know, I spar every week.
Sometimes two or three or four times.
Sometimes every day.
And are you doing MMA sparring because you want to compete in MMA again?
Are you doing it because you love it?
I want to fight people and I want to be better than them.
In MMA, too?
Yeah, it's like I've had so much success with this bare-knuckle box and it's
like, give me a challenge.
What do you think about bare-knuckle MMA?
Because I know, I believe Jorge Masvidal's organization does that, right?
Is that true?
Yeah, they do.
I think Jorge is a bare-knuckle MMA thing.
What do you think about it?
Because, like, why do we protect the knuckles of the hands when you don't
protect all these other weapons?
You don't protect elbows, you don't protect knees or shins, which are harder.
It's kind of crazy that the one thing that's padded is the one thing you're
kind of padding it bec