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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'JRE MMA Show #144 with Jared Cannonier' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2023-08-02. Transcript available.

JRE MMA Show #144 with Jared Cannonier

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We're up, here we go, Jared Karanir, ladies and gentlemen.
Hey, what a fucking crazy couple of weeks of fights there's been, man.
There's so much to talk about.
Absolutely, yeah.
You know, this last main event, oh my god.
I'm still, I'm still like in shot.
The Justin Gaethje head kick knockout of Dustin Poirier.
I'm like, oh my god.
I mean, we all knew that that fight was going to be tremendous.
Something big was going to happen in that fight.
So when it did and how it happened, it was beautiful.
Beautiful execution of that technique by Justin Gaethje to get that head kick
off.
It was beautiful.
It landed beautifully and he followed up nicely.
Well, it wasn't a follow-up.
He was on his way.
I think the ref stopped him.
I think he did land one hammer fist.
Yeah.
But yeah, it was perfect.
It was a direct mirror image of Leon Edwards' kick.
Yeah.
On the opposite side, in the same place.
In the same arena, yeah.
Crazy!
Yeah, that's crazy.
Crazy!
Something's going on there.
Oh, man.
I'll tell you one thing, and you could tell me if you feel it as a fighter, but
there's
something about the energy in an arena when you go to a place that really
appreciates
that you're there.
Because, like, we're in Vegas a lot.
You guys fight in Vegas all the time.
People, they get a little used to the fact that the UFC's there.
Yeah.
But when you bring it somewhere, like Salt Lake City, they get fucking hyped up.
Those people were there for the first fight of the night.
The place was packed.
And there's this wild feeling in the air, like everybody's excited.
Does it, as a fighter, does that affect you?
Well, absolutely.
You know, when you hear the crowd reacting to the fight.
Pull the mic right in front of you.
Yeah, when you hear the crowd reacting to the fight in itself, you know, you
get energy
from it, you know.
I get invigorated by it.
Or I get checked by it, you know what I mean?
If the guy's doing something good and the crowd's loving it, I'm going to put a
stop
to that.
So, I like to take control of it in a sense.
But yes, it is a, it's a.
It's a factor.
Yeah, it is a huge factor.
For some, you know, for some it isn't.
Some people can just stay focused and stay on the rails and handle their
business, you
know.
But I like it, you know.
But I like fighting in the.
Do you like the apex as well?
I like the apex as well.
Because I find that fighting in the apex is a bit more personal, you know what
I mean?
I can hear my opponent breathing.
I can hear his exertions.
I can hear his corner.
I can hear my corner a little bit better.
You know, you can hear, you can, you know, there's still a crowd there and you
can hear
them.
So, you still get the feel of the crowd as well, of a crowd.
You know, although it's not that big, it's not as big, but, you know, but you
can hear
everything.
You can hear the commentators too, you know.
I feel like when I'm at the apex, I feel like lucky, like, oh, I'm lucky to be
one of
the people to be here.
Like when Francis fought Stipe at the apex during the height of COVID, I was
like, we are
so lucky.
We get to be here live for this.
There's only like 30 people in this place.
Yeah.
That's that thing, man.
It makes it feel personal.
Yeah.
Very.
I guess it's personal for those in attendance as well.
Well, yeah, those in attendance and even people watching it at home, I think
you get a sense
of that.
Yeah.
From that.
Like, it's like you're watching a fight in a gym.
Yeah.
You know?
It really is.
It's like a high-tech gym.
I mean, that's kind of what they did.
Yeah.
It's kind of what the UFC did.
They just made their own gym and they made their own arena.
Yeah.
A little intimate arena.
And it's great for Tuesday night fights too.
Yeah.
The contender series.
You can just go there and handle business and then go back to whatever else you
was
going.
Yeah.
And the PI, like putting something like that, such a high-tech, like state-of-the-art
gym where guys can do their camps there.
Yes.
The PI has been a goldmine for a lot of guys, especially those guys in Vegas.
I've used it a few times, but I don't really get up there too often, you know?
So, but I can imagine if I did live there, I'd be in the PI all the time, maybe
once, twice
a day.
They really help guys scientifically cut weight correctly too and give them an
assessment
of whether or not they can do it and be healthy when they're doing it.
Yeah.
That weight cutting game is a crazy game.
And you are, you got a wild career, man.
Because you start off at heavyweight, you go down at 205 and now down to 85.
Has anybody else done that and been as successful as you?
I don't think so.
I don't think anybody's, I don't think anybody's gone down.
You know, Conor McGregor's gone up.
He hasn't been as successful, but he's just successful in anything he does, you
know?
Right.
But I'm saying, like, has anybody ever started out as a heavyweight and gotten
down to become
an elite middleweight?
No.
I don't think anybody's done that before.
I think you're the only guy.
Yeah.
It's, what?
Well, you know, well, Vitor's gone up.
He's fought up at heavyweight.
Oh, yeah, he did.
Yeah.
He's fought up at light heavyweight.
But middleweight would have been his correct weight class, I think, if he
started today.
Like, what he wound up in, I think that's the correct weight class.
Yeah.
With weight cutting.
Well, I would say the same thing about me, too.
Yeah.
I'm not no natural heavyweight.
Right.
So.
Right.
And I knew that while I was fighting heavyweight.
I was just an undisciplined heavyweight, if you will, you know?
Well, you probably walk around in heavyweight all the time.
Well, absolutely, yeah.
I think a lot of us middleweights walk around at light heavyweight or above the
light heavyweight.
Yeah, above 206.
Yeah.
Like, what is the heaviest you get when you're walking around, to be honest?
As a middleweight now?
Yes.
The heaviest I've gotten was 125.
No.
Yeah.
225.
225.
Yeah.
So I'm about 220 right now, but I haven't been back to training as consistently
as I would
like to be.
It's so crazy that you say that so casually.
Because you look great.
You look super fit.
And the idea of you being able to lose that much weight is so bonkers.
Yeah.
Well, you know, water weighs a lot.
You know what I mean?
So I burn a lot of water.
Well, that's also, you, there's like a, I guess they break it down when you do
it with
someone like, you know, that's a real expert in dehydration.
They break it down like how much muscle mass you have.
And the more muscle mass you have, you can actually, muscles mostly water.
You can suck more.
That's why guys like Yoel Romero were able to make, you know, 185 when he's a
big guy.
Yeah.
He's fucking big.
Yeah.
Just a thick thing, you know, from top to bottom.
The idea that that guy's 185 for even more than 13 seconds.
Well, not anymore, right?
Not anymore.
205.
Yeah.
Now he's doing 205.
But, you know, he's a top contender at 185 for a long time.
Yeah.
Without weight cutting.
But that was a hard weight cut for him though, right?
Yeah.
Because he was so big, I would say.
But, you know, I was never there for any of them.
So what do I know?
When you do yours, how far out do you just start to change your diet?
And like when, how much time do they, like if the UFC calls you up and says, we
want you
to fight for a world title in two weeks.
In two weeks?
You can't get down there.
In two weeks?
I haven't done it before, but I'm sure I could.
Hell yeah, I could.
Right?
But you wouldn't want to.
Ideally, what would you want to?
How much time do you need to get all the way down to healthy?
I would comfortably four weeks at the least.
Four weeks.
At the least.
You know what I mean?
But six weeks to be the, you know, is the general consensus for fight camps.
Eight weeks for those who want to put a little extra on it.
Right.
But like how much of the camp is centered around being careful with your weight?
How much do you think about it?
I would say the whole camp.
You know what I mean?
Because when I'm not in camp and I don't have a fight coming up, I don't really
pay attention
to, you know what I'm saying, my portion sizes.
Yes.
And that's the big thing is the portion sizes and the quality of the meat that
I'm putting
in my body as well, you know?
So I changed from eating less red meat for sure.
You know, I eat more salmon, more fish.
And portion sizes, again, for me is important.
The work output, as long as I'm going to the gym and making my appointments
that I've made
for myself and I'm going to the gym twice a day, I burn it off and I sweat off
a lot too, you
know?
So I can, as long as I got at least four weeks, I can make it happen.
And, you know, where I'm at now.
But when I'm training, you know what I mean?
I'm around 210, 215 and all I have to do is change my diet.
I'll drop about 10, 12 pounds in about two or three weeks and then cut the
weight during
fight week.
Well, that's not that much then.
So then you really just cut in about 10 fight week?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's a healthy way to do it.
Yeah.
No, I'm not showing up fight week at 220.
Yeah.
No, I absolutely do not.
Well, there's some guys that have done some wild cuts, some really wild ones
where you're
just like, did you just not prepare for this at all?
Did you just try to wing it?
Did you put it off?
Yeah.
How did you allow yourself to come in so big and try to cut so much?
Who knows?
Just miscalculations.
Or maybe just to get called with an opportunity that they couldn't refuse no
matter what state
that they're in.
Yeah, they couldn't have made it.
Yeah.
They don't want to be the ones that say no sometimes.
Do you ever envision a time where the sport would have no weight cutting, where
they would
just match people up by weight?
When there's no weight cutting?
No weight cutting.
What if there was more weight classes, but no weight cutting?
I think that would be fine.
I would love that, actually, to make it more of a natural competition, you know
what I mean?
As opposed to people trying to get the edge on their opponent.
It seems like a crazy edge to agree to.
Yeah.
Like, if we were, like, I firmly believe that if weight cutting didn't exist,
and then people
started doing it now, they would try to ban it.
They would try to say, don't do that.
That's dangerous.
You're 24 hours before you're going to have a fucking cage fight.
You're going to dehydrate yourself to death's door.
To death's door.
I've seen some dudes that were on death's door.
Really?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Travis Luder, when he fought Anderson Silva, was the worst I ever saw a man
when he was
cutting weight.
Travis couldn't walk.
He was shuffling to the scale.
Yeah.
And he missed weight.
He missed weight in a world title fight.
And he had a real shot against Anderson, because his jiu-jitsu was phenomenal.
Okay.
His jiu-jitsu was phenomenal.
Yeah.
He took Anderson down, and got caught in a triangle, and got beat up.
Mm-hmm.
But he was the closest I saw.
I looked at that guy, and I'm like, oh, my God.
If I found that guy in the desert, I'd get him right to the hospital.
Yeah.
I'd be like, holy shit, bro.
You okay?
Have some water.
We're going to get you some water, man.
Jesus Christ.
That's what he looked like.
Wow.
Just out of it, huh?
Just sucked in.
When you're almost killing yourself, you're taking all the water out of your
body, and then
you're putting it back in.
24 hours before the most extreme physical combat sport that's currently
available.
Yeah.
Which is MMA.
Out of your vital organs.
Out of your brain, yeah.
You know, there's some left-way shit.
They might disagree that there's more extreme.
Yeah.
But that's why I wouldn't do no extreme weight cut myself.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
That's why I said middleweight is where I'm stopping.
I could probably do welterweight with a strict diet over a period of time.
Wow.
You would be a giant welterweight.
Yeah.
But that would be uncomfortable for me.
