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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'UFO Investigator's on the David Grusch Hearings' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2023-08-31. Transcript available.

It's the first time in history that you have Commander David Fravor, Lieutenant
Ryan Graves, and then one whistleblower, a guy named David Grush, who we can't
validate what he said because it's all classified information. But Commander
Fravor, friends of ours, you know, Commander Fravor, he like just told what
happened to him. He chased the UFO. Then you've got Ryan Graves, who his whole
squadron has been seeing these things you've had both on your podcast. But Grush
stood up there and he was very careful with his words, and I want people to
know why. If you look at that setting, you're gonna see right behind him was a
guy named Chuck. Chuck McCullough. Chuck McCullough is the former Intelligence
Community Inspector General. So like the cops of the Intelligence Community.
And he
was right behind David Grush, who is his client. So he's representing David Grush
Grush, because David Grush put a whistleblower complaint. He put, yeah, and
look at those two handsome guys right there. This is the biggest conspiracy
photo of all
time. Can you imagine people seeing this and being like, what are those idiots
doing up
there with him? But so behind David...
What do you do with the beard and the glasses in the back? He looks so happy.
Yeah, dude, he's so...
Yes, UFOs.
People think that that guy with a bald head is James Clapper, by the way. I got
a
bunch of comments that Clapper was looking up my notes during that.
Who is that guy? I don't know. He's just part of a Ryan's organization as a...
But you know, here's the
deal, man. This photo is kind of hilarious because George had ontological shock
when we were in
that room. It's like he's sitting there... I mean, he's sitting there seeing
after all this
time, this shit's being said out loud. So what happened was the seats were kind
of
like designated for us because George and I were supposed to testify, by the
way. But
then common wisdom says, why have these journalist guys when you can hear
directly from the first
hand people? And we agreed.
Yeah.
But what we did was we put on congressional record statements and people should
read them
if they haven't. They're on congressional record. I did an assessment of kind
of the estimate
of the situation on UFOs, but he named names and programs. But what you're
seeing there is,
and I kind of had to fight for this, you know, is getting his lawyer behind him
should be
like an obvious fucking thing when a guy's going up to testify under oath in
front of Congress.
If you believe him, he's speaking under whistleblower protection. Dude, it was
hard to get his lawyer
behind him. I had literally had to put the lawyer behind him. So we got the
lawyer behind him so he
could lean in and be like, careful, Dave, careful, which he did like a bunch of
times.
And then there's George looking all scrunched and everybody's like, why Jeremy
over there with no
one next to him? I think people are a little afraid of me because, you know, a
little bit of a maniac
sometimes. Whatever. We're there. Dave starts talking. They ask him questions.
These weren't
pre-scripted or anything. You know, we're talking about what could be asked for
sure, but they weren't
pre-scripted. What Dave Grush said, and correct me or add to if I get this
wrong, Dave Grush said,
I did an investigation. It was my job. I was hired by, and this is a guy from
the National
Reconnaissance Office, the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency. Like this
guy is, he's been
in the intelligence community a long time. And he sits there under oath and he
says, I did an
investigation. I interviewed. It was my job to look at over 2,000 special
access programs,
like black programs. And it was my job to find out if any of them had to do
with UAP
and if there's any money being hidden, like misappropriated theft. And he's
like, after
interviewing 40 witnesses, I found a ton of shit that supports this. And I've,
in fact, he said,
I found people who worked on the craft firsthand and they're, and they had to
come in or they
willingly came in. He called them hostile and non-hostile witnesses. And he's
like, so I did that
whole thing. The second I did that, which was my job, I was given the job. Reprisals
started happening
to me. So he smartly did a whistleblower complaint through the presidential
protection act 19 or
something. He went, got the head of the ICIG, the former head of the ICIG was a
lawyer. And he says,
fuck dude, here's what I know. Here's what people don't know is the ICIG. So
the intelligence community
did their own investigation into David Grush's witnesses and what he found.
They interviewed like
40 plus under oath and immediately said, David Grush's claim is both credible
and urgent. So it's not
like just one guy telling you our intelligence community did a deep dive
investigation into
what David Grush told them under oath in the right secure settings. And they're
like credible,
urgent. So David Grush can tell you the basic things that happened, but you
know how he kept saying
in the appropriate environment, if you've got clearance, we can do that. I'm
willing to give
you a list of hostile and non-hostile people that worked on the craft, you know,
biologicals. He even
said, he's like, I'll give that to you today. We just got to get a skiff and we
got to make sure
that you have access, you have clearance. And he was denied a skiff that day.
He's a, he's a credible guy. He's the real deal. I mean, he has, he had a
career in the air force,
served in Afghanistan, a distinguished career. Then he goes into the
intelligence community,
working for the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency. He was assigned by his
boss to be the
liaison to the UAP task force. That's what Congress had set it up to
investigate the whole UFO matter
before the current program existed. And the guy who was in charge of the task
force, Jay Stratton,
gave him a job, go find the special access programs that are hiding UFO stuff,
either siphoning
millions of dollars, or they've got technology, crash retrievals, reverse
engineering, all the stuff
that we've always heard, rumored, and he did. He found it. Most of the juiciest
stuff that he found,
he can't say in an unclassified setting. It has to be, because they will get
him. They will bust his
ass if they can. They've already tried. Like four times. And that's something
offline we'll talk about.
There have been attempts to get him silenced, unmuzzled, by the way, to not do
podcasts or shows and stuff,
right, to get him muzzled, by people that are trying to say he's talking
outside of his dopser,
which is what he's allowed to talk about. So they're looking for one word that
he says that's
outside of that. Like, I get asked by people in the government, has he ever
told you the number of
crashes? Has he ever told you locations? Like, I'm going to fucking answer you.
First of all. Second of all,
no, he hasn't. Because that would be illegal if it were to be true.
So he is authorized to talk about a very limited number of things. Is that
correct?
And they're not vouching for their authenticity. Dopser process, which is, I
don't know what it stands for,
but it's like a pre-pub process. He very smartly, because his lawyer's really
smart, former ICIG,
he's like, write it in, what you want to talk about, and see what they come
back about, what you can't talk about.
So they're not saying what he's saying is true. They're just saying, you can
talk within these
parameters. I would like to see if what he's saying is true. So we just need
that option.
So who gives him the authority to talk about these things?
No one gives him the authority. He's taking that all on himself. He's a true
whistleblower. Whether you
believe his claims or not, what he's doing is legal, but it is, I mean, it's a
career killer, right?
Dopser says, they go through it and they make sure that things that are like
highly sensitive or
classified, right? Like you can't say this word or this program or this name.
So they kind of do it
as a pre-publication thing. That's the process. Does that make sense?
I wrote a book with Colm Kelleher and Jim Lekatsky about the DIA's UFO program.
It took Dopser 14 months to approve our manuscript. So they take their time.
They take their time. But also when you get pushback, where people are trying
to entrap him or get
people to say that he said something out of school, the Dopser people are like,
no, he's fine.
He's talked within those parameters. He just has to be careful to not
accidentally say something that
is outside of those parameters. And right now is a very sensitive time for that,
you know, immediately.
It's interesting. We met him in Huntsville, Alabama at a conference, the SCU
conference.
It's a UFO event. We went down there to interview somebody else and to get him
on camera.
And we had been told this guy might, there's a guy who might introduce himself.
And Jeremy was shooting video of me sitting at a bar at the moment that this
guy walked up and
introduced himself. So he had that moment on camera.
And then we got to know him a little bit. A couple months later, he comes out
to Las Vegas.
There was a Star Trek convention. We were going to speak at it.
And he comes out because he likes Star Trek, like everybody likes Star Trek,
comes out and spends two days with us.
The next day, he flies back Sunday night.
Monday morning, he reports to work. Armed security guards escort him out.
He was suspended. His clearance was suspended.
We were worried. Oh, Christ, was he seen in our company? That's what happened.
But that was the beginning of his first real big trial by fire.
They accused him of a bunch of stuff and said that they were going to fire him
and permanently suspend his clearance.
And was he already discussing UFOs at that time?
Not with us, but he had already been investigating it on behalf of the UAP task
force.
And he had shared information through the whistleblower process with the
inspector general.
Yeah, let me just break it down real simple.
So here he is. He gets this job. He's looking at all these special access
programs.
He's a fucking brilliant guy. He's a physicist, by the way.
You know, like he's a brilliant guy in general.
So he discovers all this shit. He starts getting reprisals.
And then the moment George is talking about, I kind of had heard about him.
All of a sudden, he comes up to him at this bar where we were at.
That's the first time that he talked to anybody outside of government.
Now, he didn't share anything he shouldn't.
But he's kind of coming to George and then to me to say, I'm doing this whistleblower
thing.
I am concerned for my safety and just in general for my career.
He wanted a journalist or journalists to know not to report on it.
So imagine that. We don't even break the story that we have before anybody,
right?
So what I did, because I'm his harpoon, I did a deep dive into this guy for
months and months and months.
He actually came to my home, you know, met my family.
And I got to know him and we vetted and vetted.
Okay, this guy is who he says he is.
He's 100% who he says he is.
So we kind of got that layer of trust.
This is not some sham or something like that.
But then what happens is what George is talking about the second trip.
So I'm already talking at this Star Trek thing because my friend growing up
from my jiu-jitsu class was Rod Roddenberry.
So he's like the son of Gene Roddenberry.
So he's just like, dude, Jeremy, come talk to a bunch of Trekkies about real
UFOs.
And I'm like, cool, I'll do it. It's in George's hometown.
So that was a great opportunity for Dave to come and meet with us again and
just talk to us, right?
Yeah. And then that Monday when he gets back, he's walked out of the Geospatial
Intelligence Agency or NRO, depending on which one you want to identify him
with.
He's out, man.
And they did some bullshit on him, like time card, like out of 12,000 billable
hours, maybe there's like 30 hours somewhere where you didn't do it right.
They were doing anything they could to fuck with this guy.
So that was our first like heads up.
Oh, dude, how this guy gets treated is going to dictate everybody else that has
come to us in private saying, I think this is illegal, what I'm doing.
Right.
Among the complaints they issued to try to take away his security clearance was
that he had mental health issues.
Yeah.
So he was suspended for a couple of months.
They did a background investigation of his allegations, the allegations that
have been made against him.
And they cleared him, reinstated him, reinstated his security clearance.
He stayed on the job for a couple more months and then retired because he sees
the handwriting on the wall and he left.
And that's when he started plotting the next chapter.
And now we're seeing the backlash process firing up once again after he testifies
in front of Congress in that hearing and offers to tell them more in a
classified setting and spill all the beans.
And they got to find a media guy to go after him, this article in The Intercept.
Yes, The Intercept did a smash piece.
By the way, we already knew all about Dave Gresh's PTSD.
And at the time, his best friend, one of his dear friends, just got off the
phone with him, blew his own brains out.
Right.
So he was like drinking.
He was in a bad place.
The first day, day one, I talked to him.
I said, what dirt are they going to pull up on you?
If what you're telling me is true, they're going to get some dirt.
And he goes, look, man, I had PTSD.
I dealt with it.
I survived it.
Nothing horrible happened.
But, you know, he told us day one, man, that intercepting was some bullshit.
They come in and they try to discredit what he said because of his PTSD shit.
And the thing is, that happened to Lazar.
Like, if you believe or don't believe, don't care.
That did happen to Lazar, too, where people try to discredit his character to
try to minimize what he's telling you.
So we saw that with Dave, and that was only the visible stuff.
I'm telling you, things behind the scenes that have been done to Dave and his
family, it's disgusting.
Like, not even just, like, pull your clearance kind of shit.
Like, there are people that don't want him.
He's an embarrassment, you know, to the Department of Defense if what he's
saying, he's coming out of school and he's saying, I saw some BS.
Like, they don't want that.
So we are in a pushback phase.
They, not only, the intelligence community and military folks tipped off a
reporter and said, go look for this.
And they found some police records of where he was drinking too much and was
suicidal.
And that was adjudicated.
It was looked at.
The Department of Defense, his employers looked into it.
He'd gone through treatment.
He got past it.
He was a better person, a stronger person for it.
But they leaked that information to besmirch his character.
And now we see additional pushback in Congress.
So this committee that held this hearing into UFO, UAP matters, was a subcommittee
on national security of the oversight committee, the larger committee.
Since that hearing happened, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee
got together with the chairman of the oversight committee and decided no more
UFO hearings in the house.
Enough of that bullshit.
We're not doing that anymore because, in their words, it could be an
embarrassment to the Department of Defense.
You're damn right it would be an embarrassment for what's going to come out.
I mean, it was a big success, you know, to have this publicly done.
It's the first time in history that we have direct witnesses, like two pilots
and then a whistleblower.
It was the first time in history.
We fought for every millimeter of that territory to get that to happen.
It was not received well by the intelligence community.
You know, they did not like that that happened.
And that's pretty telling to me that we should do it again.

UFO Investigator's on the David Grusch Hearings

It's the first time in history that you have Commander David Fravor, Lieutenant
Ryan Graves, and then one whistleblower, a guy named David Grush, who we can't
validate what he said because it's all classified information. But Commander
Fravor, friends of ours, you know, Commander Fravor, he like just told what
happened to him. He chased the UFO. Then you've got Ryan Graves, who his whole
squadron has been seeing these things you've had both on your podcast. But Grush
stood up there and he was very careful with his words, and I want people to
know why. If you look at that setting, you're gonna see right behind him was a
guy named Chuck. Chuck McCullough. Chuck McCullough is the former Intelligence
Community Inspector General. So like the cops of the Intelligence Community.
And he
was right behind David Grush, who is his client. So he's representing David Grush
Grush, because David Grush put a whistleblower complaint. He put, yeah, and
look at those two handsome guys right there. This is the biggest conspiracy
photo of all
time. Can you imagine people seeing this and being like, what are those idiots
doing up
there with him? But so behind David...
What do you do with the beard and the glasses in the back? He looks so happy.
Yeah, dude, he's so...
Yes, UFOs.
People think that that guy with a bald head is James Clapper, by the way. I got
a
bunch of comments that Clapper was looking up my notes during that.
Who is that guy? I don't know. He's just part of a Ryan's organization as a...
But you know, here's the
deal, man. This photo is kind of hilarious because George had ontological shock
when we were in
that room. It's like he's sitting there... I mean, he's sitting there seeing
after all this
time, this shit's being said out loud. So what happened was the seats were kind
of
like designated for us because George and I were supposed to testify, by the
way. But
then common wisdom says, why have these journalist guys when you can hear
directly from the first
hand people? And we agreed.
Yeah.
But what we did was we put on congressional record statements and people should
read them
if they haven't. They're on congressional record. I did an assessment of kind
of the estimate
of the situation on UFOs, but he named names and programs. But what you're
seeing there is,
and I kind of had to fight for this, you know, is getting his lawyer behind him
should be
like an obvious fucking thing when a guy's going up to testify under oath in
front of Congress.
If you believe him, he's speaking under whistleblower protection. Dude, it was
hard to get his lawyer
behind him. I had literally had to put the lawyer behind him. So we got the
lawyer behind him so he
could lean in and be like, careful, Dave, careful, which he did like a bunch of
times.
And then there's George looking all scrunched and everybody's like, why Jeremy
over there with no
one next to him? I think people are a little afraid of me because, you know, a
little bit of a maniac
sometimes. Whatever. We're there. Dave starts talking. They ask him questions.
These weren't
pre-scripted or anything. You know, we're talking about what could be asked for
sure, but they weren't
pre-scripted. What Dave Grush said, and correct me or add to if I get this
wrong, Dave Grush said,
I did an investigation. It was my job. I was hired by, and this is a guy from
the National
Reconnaissance Office, the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency. Like this
guy is, he's been
in the intelligence community a long time. And he sits there under oath and he
says, I did an
investigation. I interviewed. It was my job to look at over 2,000 special
access programs,
like black programs. And it was my job to find out if any of them had to do
with UAP
and if there's any money being hidden, like misappropriated theft. And he's
like, after
interviewing 40 witnesses, I found a ton of shit that supports this. And I've,
in fact, he said,
I found people who worked on the craft firsthand and they're, and they had to
come in or they
willingly came in. He called them hostile and non-hostile witnesses. And he's
like, so I did that
whole thing. The second I did that, which was my job, I was given the job. Reprisals
started happening
to me. So he smartly did a whistleblower complaint through the presidential
protection act 19 or
something. He went, got the head of the ICIG, the former head of the ICIG was a
lawyer. And he says,
fuck dude, here's what I know. Here's what people don't know is the ICIG. So
the intelligence community
did their own investigation into David Grush's witnesses and what he found.
They interviewed like
40 plus under oath and immediately said, David Grush's claim is both credible
and urgent. So it's not
like just one guy telling you our intelligence community did a deep dive
investigation into
what David Grush told them under oath in the right secure settings. And they're
like credible,
urgent. So David Grush can tell you the basic things that happened, but you
know how he kept saying
in the appropriate environment, if you've got clearance, we can do that. I'm
willing to give
you a list of hostile and non-hostile people that worked on the craft, you know,
biologicals. He even
said, he's like, I'll give that to you today. We just got to get a skiff and we
got to make sure
that you have access, you have clearance. And he was denied a skiff that day.
He's a, he's a credible guy. He's the real deal. I mean, he has, he had a
career in the air force,
served in Afghanistan, a distinguished career. Then he goes into the
intelligence community,
working for the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency. He was assigned by his
boss to be the
liaison to the UAP task force. That's what Congress had set it up to
investigate the whole UFO matter
before the current program existed. And the guy who was in charge of the task
force, Jay Stratton,
gave him a job, go find the special access programs that are hiding UFO stuff,
either siphoning
millions of dollars, or they've got technology, crash retrievals, reverse
engineering, all the stuff
that we've always heard, rumored, and he did. He found it. Most of the juiciest
stuff that he found,
he can't say in an unclassified setting. It has to be, because they will get
him. They will bust his
ass if they can. They've already tried. Like four times. And that's something
offline we'll talk about.
There have been attempts to get him silenced, unmuzzled, by the way, to not do
podcasts or shows and stuff,
right, to get him muzzled, by people that are trying to say he's talking
outside of his dopser,
which is what he's allowed to talk about. So they're looking for one word that
he says that's
outside of that. Like, I get asked by people in the government, has he ever
told you the number of
crashes? Has he ever told you locations? Like, I'm going to fucking answer you.
First of all. Second of all,
no, he hasn't. Because that would be illegal if it were to be true.
So he is authorized to talk about a very limited number of things. Is that
correct?
And they're not vouching for their authenticity. Dopser process, which is, I
don't know what it stands for,
but it's like a pre-pub process. He very smartly, because his lawyer's really
smart, former ICIG,
he's like, write it in, what you want to talk about, and see what they come
back about, what you can't talk about.
So they're not saying what he's saying is true. They're just saying, you can
talk within these
parameters. I would like to see if what he's saying is true. So we just need
that option.
So who gives him the authority to talk about these things?
No one gives him the authority. He's taking that all on himself. He's a true
whistleblower. Whether you
believe his claims or not, what he's doing is legal, but it is, I mean, it's a
career killer, right?
Dopser says, they go through it and they make sure that things that are like
highly sensitive or
classified, right? Like you can't say this word or this program or this name.
So they kind of do it
as a pre-publication thing. That's the process. Does that make sense?
I wrote a book with Colm Kelleher and Jim Lekatsky about the DIA's UFO program.
It took Dopser 14 months to approve our manuscript. So they take their time.
They take their time. But also when you get pushback, where people are trying
to entrap him or get
people to say that he said something out of school, the Dopser people are like,
no, he's fine.
He's talked within those parameters. He just has to be careful to not
accidentally say something that
is outside of those parameters. And right now is a very sensitive time for that,
you know, immediately.
It's interesting. We met him in Huntsville, Alabama at a conference, the SCU
conference.
It's a UFO event. We went down there to interview somebody else and to get him
on camera.
And we had been told this guy might, there's a guy who might introduce himself.
And Jeremy was shooting video of me sitting at a bar at the moment that this
guy walked up and
introduced himself. So he had that moment on camera.
And then we got to know him a little bit. A couple months later, he comes out
to Las Vegas.
There was a Star Trek convention. We were going to speak at it.
And he comes out because he likes Star Trek, like everybody likes Star Trek,
comes out and spends two days with us.
The next day, he flies back Sunday night.
Monday morning, he reports to work. Armed security guards escort him out.
He was suspended. His clearance was suspended.
We were worried. Oh, Christ, was he seen in our company? That's what happened.
But that was the beginning of his first real big trial by fire.
They accused him of a bunch of stuff and said that they were going to fire him
and permanently suspend his clearance.
And was he already discussing UFOs at that time?
Not with us, but he had already been investigating it on behalf of the UAP task
force.
And he had shared information through the whistleblower process with the
inspector general.
Yeah, let me just break it down real simple.
So here he is. He gets this job. He's looking at all these special access
programs.
He's a fucking brilliant guy. He's a physicist, by the way.
You know, like he's a brilliant guy in general.
So he discovers all this shit. He starts getting reprisals.
And then the moment George is talking about, I kind of had heard about him.
All of a sudden, he comes up to him at this bar where we were at.
That's the first time that he talked to anybody outside of government.
Now, he didn't share anything he shouldn't.
But he's kind of coming to George and then to me to say, I'm doing this whistleblower
thing.
I am concerned for my safety and just in general for my career.
He wanted a journalist or journalists to know not to report on it.
So imagine that. We don't even break the story that we have before anybody,
right?
So what I did, because I'm his harpoon, I did a deep dive into this guy for
months and months and months.
He actually came to my home, you know, met my family.
And I got to know him and we vetted and vetted.
Okay, this guy is who he says he is.
He's 100% who he says he is.
So we kind of got that layer of trust.
This is not some sham or something like that.
But then what happens is what George is talking about the second trip.
So I'm already talking at this Star Trek thing because my friend growing up
from my jiu-jitsu class was Rod Roddenberry.
So he's like the son of Gene Roddenberry.
So he's just like, dude, Jeremy, come talk to a bunch of Trekkies about real
UFOs.
And I'm like, cool, I'll do it. It's in George's hometown.
So that was a great opportunity for Dave to come and meet with us again and
just talk to us, right?
Yeah. And then that Monday when he gets back, he's walked out of the Geospatial
Intelligence Agency or NRO, depending on which one you want to identify him
with.
He's out, man.
And they did some bullshit on him, like time card, like out of 12,000 billable
hours, maybe there's like 30 hours somewhere where you didn't do it right.
They were doing anything they could to